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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #30 on: April 13, 2021, 02:54:39 PM »

I wish people would stop calling the pitch 'the wicket'.
Too confusing. I have changed my mind - we need The Hundred. It will be an education as well as entertainment.
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« Reply #31 on: April 13, 2021, 02:57:55 PM »

Too confusing. I have changed my mind - we need The Hundred. It will be an education as well as entertainment.

I thought you would, to be honest.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #32 on: April 13, 2021, 03:57:26 PM »

Because you are in a different bubble.

There are many, other, bubbles in this world.

I always find it hilarious when people say this. I've spent 20 years introducing cricket to working class kids who have never before seen a cricket match and couldn't name a single cricketer. I doubt anyone here has more insight into what does or does not put kids off cricket on this forum, certainly not you.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #33 on: April 13, 2021, 04:04:02 PM »

I always find it hilarious when people say this. I've spent 20 years introducing cricket to working class kids who have never before seen a cricket match and couldn't name a single cricketer. I doubt anyone here has more insight into what does or does not put kids off cricket on this forum, certainly not you.

Obviously your efforts of 20 years are in vain because ECB has chosen a different approach. They are not listening to you and you can't argue with that.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #34 on: April 13, 2021, 04:13:52 PM »

Obviously your efforts of 20 years are in vain because ECB has chosen a different approach. They are not listening to you and you can't argue with that.

Well no, they're idiots who have severely damaged the sport in this country, despite the hard work of thousands of volunteers to try to offset the damage they continue to cause.

That's what we've all been complaining about for the past 15 years, how are you not understanding this? They're clueless. We have every right to complain, and every right to argue - they're undermining OUR hard work.


If your response is about to be to gloat about how despite the best efforts of all us volunteers, cricket is still declining, I suggest you just don't post that and leave the forum instead, never to return.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #35 on: April 13, 2021, 04:30:55 PM »

Well no, they're idiots who have severely damaged the sport in this country, despite the hard work of thousands of volunteers to try to offset the damage they continue to cause.

That's what we've all been complaining about for the past 15 years, how are you not understanding this? They're clueless. We have every right to complain, and every right to argue - they're undermining OUR hard work.


If your response is about to be to gloat about how despite the best efforts of all us volunteers, cricket is still declining, I suggest you just don't post that and leave the forum instead, never to return.

That's a very arrogant post.

Instead of getting enraged and asking me to leave the forum, you should do some introspection: Are/were you effective? Do you know it all? Did you make enough difference at a grassroots level to affect a  larger change? Answer is: No.

This is a good time for people (and you) to put their arrogance aside and listen to other people for a change.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #36 on: April 13, 2021, 06:32:56 PM »

I have to admit this is rather surprising as I had assumed that everyone hated this new hundred competition and finding myself agreeing with SLA is not a regular experience.

The ECB literally don't care what cricket fans think.
They don't have to.

They have hijacked the best players the best grounds at the best time of the year for this new hit and giggle nonsense.

They are trolling fans quite deliberately for social media publicity.

The only way a message to the ECB can be sent is if no one goes to this new competition.

As for the above great that people have views, but the main issue is that the ECB have bankrupted England cricket for no reason.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #37 on: April 13, 2021, 07:20:08 PM »

I find it hard to see why the Hundred was a necessity when there was an existing competition that could have been rebranded, heavily marketed and tweaked to appeal more widely.

As Buzz said, the ECB have taken a massive financial gamble on the Hundred. For the sake of English (and UK) cricket I hope it works out but inventing a new format seems like a completely unnecessary risk to have taken.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #38 on: April 13, 2021, 07:52:09 PM »

I'm also in the same boat of finding myself in agreement with @SLA, which doesn't happen very often. He is dead right.

The 2020 competition logically is the one to expand, as I posted before I think it will be the casualty of this new competition as they will be too similar and as Buzz pointed out, funds and advertising will be piled into it.

Glad this thread is getting back on track, the bashing of volunteers on here, and there's loads of us, is appalling.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #39 on: April 13, 2021, 08:59:23 PM »

100% with SLA on this.

ECB care not a jot for cricket. Only money. They will and have sold out the game for a fast buck.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #40 on: April 13, 2021, 09:02:43 PM »

There are sports that are doing just fine even with messed up attention spans of their respectively society. Think broader. Different bubbles.

Umm, which sports ??

Cycling isn’t a team sport and is already in decline after a brief upsurge post olympics

Golf isn’t a team sport and has always been played .. not more or less players generally

Football.. decline

Rugby decline

Tennis decline
Badminton declining
Hockey going down
Cricket naturally

Rounders you’re barely see


Umm, I can’t think of many more team sports !!

Kids play more now as they are a cash cow but come 13+ most fade away as they stop listening to mum and dad who use it as a cheap child minders !

Bubbles my backside fella. Are you employed by the ECB ?
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #41 on: April 13, 2021, 09:06:52 PM »

I think a few people are missing fundamental points as to why the 100 was started....(I completely agree with these points by the way, the "outs" etc is a waste of time and as a coach I now have to explain everything in 2 formats, enhancing confusion to younger players trying to understand the game further).

The point is the 100 has been designed ultimately as a rivalry to the IPL and Big Bash. The IPL generates millions upon millions for the BCCI, the big bash works well because 90% of the Australian population lives in those areas. The 100 has attempted to combine the 2 in order to generate a big audience base whilst maintaining fewer teams to keep the standards and pay high to bring in the required players to make it work.

The ECB had to do something, you can't generate an 18 team franchise system as the cost would be to astronomical. They have to also try and get the balance, bring in new fans and maintain original fans (which is something I do feel they have failed to do).

Will I be attending myself? No as I am over an hour away from any matches. Do I feel they should have generated a new tournament? No, but I can understand why they have gone down the franchise route completely in order to bring the money in, the big players in and give it a try....if it works 5 years down the line the ECB will be laughing. If it doesnt work the I wouldn't think it would affect them, they have everything else to fall back on and ultimately the counties are benefitting from the revenue which given the current climate I think is more crucial.
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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #42 on: April 13, 2021, 09:19:55 PM »

As Buzz said, the ECB have taken a massive financial gamble on the Hundred. For the sake of English (and UK) cricket I hope it works out but inventing a new format seems like a completely unnecessary risk to have taken.

This is what it is all about. T20 market is cornered by IPL - it is the largest franchise tournament and no other tourney can compete with that. Full stop.

If T20 could've done the trick, kids all over the world would be lining to play cricket and it is not happening (except for a few places).

New format and with some marketing/branding is a very smart move.

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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #43 on: April 13, 2021, 09:22:04 PM »

Umm, I can’t think of many more team sports !!

Fine, you are limited. I don't blame you.

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Re: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further...
« Reply #44 on: April 13, 2021, 09:25:37 PM »

@InternalTraining  can you back up your points please?

I'd love to know which team sports are thriving with participation going up...
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