Topic: Breaking News: ECB to dumb down cricket even further... (Read 27476 times)

InternalTraining · « **Reply #45 on:** April 13, 2021, 09:27:24 PM »

Quote from: BitsandBats on April 13, 2021, 09:06:52 PM

The point is the 100 has been designed ultimately as a rivalry to the IPL and Big Bash. The IPL generates millions upon millions for the BCCI, the big bash works well because 90% of the Australian population lives in those areas. The 100 has attempted to combine the 2 in order to generate a big audience base whilst maintaining fewer teams to keep the standards and pay high to bring in the required players to make it work.

The ECB had to do something, you can't generate an 18 team franchise system as the cost would be to astronomical. They have to also try and get the balance, bring in new fans and maintain original fans (which is something I do feel they have failed to do).

EXACTLY!!!

You must work for ECB.

T20 is basically synonymous with IPL. New markets will require accommodations that will make sense to new fans and also make game easy to follow. Again key word is "new".

This will also help open up newer markets for new fans.

InternalTraining · « **Reply #46 on:** April 13, 2021, 09:28:54 PM »

Only people who are angry about new format are the purists. They will be happy when ECB invents a time machine so they can travel back in time and oil bats for WG Grace.

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #47 on:** April 13, 2021, 09:28:58 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on April 13, 2021, 09:19:55 PM

This is what it is all about. T20 market is cornered by IPL - it is the largest franchise tournament and no other tourney can compete with that. Full stop.

If T20 could've done the trick, kids all over the world would be lining to play cricket and it is not happening (except for a few places).

New format and with some marketing/branding is a very smart move.

The IPL is only big because it�s Indian. Outside India, no one gives a crap . If China suddenly took up Cricket it would be bigger than the IPL due to sheer numbers.. the IPL really isn�t very good

Batoff · « **Reply #48 on:** April 13, 2021, 09:33:00 PM »

For all the talk of bringing in new fans, I think everyone knows this is a load of nonsense.

You could get thousands of kids who love the hundred (unlikely) and want to give cricket a go. They'll then find out the only way they can play is to spend 8 hours in a field every Saturday and/or Sunday playing 40/50 overs which is nothing like the fast paced game they watched which got them interested in the first place.

It's all good though as the ECB got a load of sponsorship money from Hula Hoops

InternalTraining · « **Reply #49 on:** April 13, 2021, 09:33:34 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on April 13, 2021, 09:28:58 PM

The IPL is only big because it�s Indian. Outside India, no one gives a crap . If China suddenly took up Cricket it would be bigger than the IPL due to sheer numbers.. the IPL really isn�t very good

You are so angry that you can't see what's right in front of you.

ECB or any other board can't put up that SCALE of a show! MONEY matters. A new product, a niche, will provide ECB with a competitive advantage. It is a business decision. Nothing more.

For a passionate purist like yourself, it may not make sense! But from a business perspective, it makes perfect sense.

Kez · « **Reply #50 on:** April 13, 2021, 09:59:54 PM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on April 13, 2021, 09:33:34 PM

It is a business decision. Nothing more.

For a passionate purist like yourself, it may not make sense! But from a business perspective, it makes perfect sense.

This short segment actually hits the nail on the head. It�s not about the sport we all love to play it�s about how they can make as much money as possible... is that right or wrong, different debate!

Jimbo · « **Reply #51 on:** April 13, 2021, 10:20:07 PM »

But how they make, and distribute, money has a direct impact on the sport we all love to play. If money is being spent paying marketing agencies, it isn't being spent supporting grassroots clubs, for example. Aware that's a very simplified version of things but the ECB is not completely divorced from the fortunes of your local club/league/ground.

brokenbat · « **Reply #52 on:** April 14, 2021, 02:27:35 AM »

I don�t really care much for the ECB, but in their defence, they aren�t really trying to change cricket. This seems more like a festival - so what if you make a few tweaks for fun? Other sports have these kinds of events too (home run derby in baseball for example).
End of the day however, these are just gimmicks - you might get packed stadiums but it won�t lead to more people wanting to play cricket...for that you need a fresh batch of heros (KP smashing McGrath into the stands, flintoff doing his thing, Monty getting the best of Sachin, etc).

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #53 on:** April 14, 2021, 06:56:06 AM »

You'd have thought people would have learned not to trust people in power when they say there is no money.

SLA · « **Reply #54 on:** April 14, 2021, 09:38:06 AM »

Quote from: BitsandBats on April 13, 2021, 09:06:52 PM

I think a few people are missing fundamental points as to why the 100 was started....(I completely agree with these points by the way, the "outs" etc is a waste of time and as a coach I now have to explain everything in 2 formats, enhancing confusion to younger players trying to understand the game further).

The point is the 100 has been designed ultimately as a rivalry to the IPL and Big Bash. The IPL generates millions upon millions for the BCCI, the big bash works well because 90% of the Australian population lives in those areas. The 100 has attempted to combine the 2 in order to generate a big audience base whilst maintaining fewer teams to keep the standards and pay high to bring in the required players to make it work.

The ECB had to do something, you can't generate an 18 team franchise system as the cost would be to astronomical. They have to also try and get the balance, bring in new fans and maintain original fans (which is something I do feel they have failed to do).

Will I be attending myself? No as I am over an hour away from any matches. Do I feel they should have generated a new tournament? No, but I can understand why they have gone down the franchise route completely in order to bring the money in, the big players in and give it a try....if it works 5 years down the line the ECB will be laughing. If it doesnt work the I wouldn't think it would affect them, they have everything else to fall back on and ultimately the counties are benefitting from the revenue which given the current climate I think is more crucial.

Its a myth that T20 is a big money spinner. Dobell wrote a big article on this a few years ago. There are only 2 T20 competitions that make money, the Blast and the IPL, and the IPL only started making money in the past few years.

The CPL and PCL both make big losses, the BBL is funded up by the revenues from Australian test cricket, and the hundred is projected to make a loss for at least 5 years (even before you account for the fact that it will probably fatally undermine the one English cricket competition that actually does make money) Its the road to complete bankrupcy.

Buzz · « **Reply #55 on:** April 14, 2021, 10:05:13 AM »

Seems the hundred is to target the US market.
Which is just bonkers.

Jimbo · « **Reply #56 on:** April 14, 2021, 10:10:38 AM »

Quote from: Buzz on April 14, 2021, 10:05:13 AM

Seems the hundred is to target the US market.
Which is just bonkers.

Can't wait for the first 'Burger King Double Whopper Mega Hit, formerly known as a six'.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #57 on:** April 14, 2021, 10:15:10 AM »

Quote from: InternalTraining on April 13, 2021, 09:28:54 PM

Only people who are angry about new format are the purists. They will be happy when ECB invents a time machine so they can travel back in time and oil bats for WG Grace.

I'm not sure there was much pure about WG Grace.

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #58 on:** April 14, 2021, 10:16:21 AM »

And a once you pop you can�t stop Pringles tactical timeout, after 50 balls.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #59 on:** April 14, 2021, 10:22:11 AM »

Disco Demolition Night.

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