Topic: England v India series (Read 84164 times)

mo_town · « **Reply #60 on:** August 04, 2021, 03:44:51 PM »

1 brings 2 Thakur! Indeed!

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #61 on:** August 04, 2021, 03:46:02 PM »

Thought Bairstow didn't do that bad with his 29 under these conditions.

Wait until both sides have batted. Don't think Ind will do any better either with ball moving both ways. Plus Ind have to bat last.

Jimbo · « **Reply #62 on:** August 04, 2021, 03:56:00 PM »

Forecast doesn't look great for a result, even given this abject batting performance.

Butterfingerz · « **Reply #63 on:** August 04, 2021, 03:58:19 PM »

Just got home after coaching all day, what kind of pitch has been prepared at Nottingham.

NT50 · « **Reply #64 on:** August 04, 2021, 04:04:03 PM »

At least the 100 is on later

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #65 on:** August 04, 2021, 04:08:13 PM »

Quote from: adb club cricketer on August 04, 2021, 03:46:02 PM

Thought Bairstow didn't do that bad with his 29 under these conditions.

Wait until both sides have batted. Don't think Ind will do any better either with ball moving both ways. Plus Ind have to bat last.

Best days on most pitches to bat are 2 and 3 so if India get 250 -300 doesn�t t matter most likely if they bat last as on form
Of the last couple of years England rarely pass 250. Just baffling why our red ball batting has gone so far down hill over recent years

ppccopener · « **Reply #66 on:** August 04, 2021, 04:12:20 PM »

Quote from: Butterfingerz on August 04, 2021, 03:58:19 PM

Just got home after coaching all day, what kind of pitch has been prepared at Nottingham.

It's swung and seamed all day, they have 3 quality seamers but we were 138-3. There's nothing wrong with the pitch.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #67 on:** August 04, 2021, 04:21:02 PM »

Sam Curren lives batting against India in the UK, seem to remember he was man of the series last time India came here

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #68 on:** August 04, 2021, 04:29:11 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on August 04, 2021, 04:08:13 PM

Just baffling why our red ball batting has gone so far down hill over recent years

Really Chris? It's not baffling at all when you look at the counties and England pathways and if we stick to the players in and around the red ball squads over the last 5 years... Just look at the batsmen they have picked and continue to favour (Bairstow/Buttler/Curran (although, tbf to Bairstow he kinda did ok ish today and Curran seems to be the man to use against india it seems))..

Add in Hales, Duckett blah blah blah.

players being picked are white ball players over the last 5 ish years until fairly recently and those recent ones are raw and we are seeing they aren't really upto it sadly. Let's hope India's batting is as bad and Anderson/Broad can ript hrough the top order

It's been a really enjoyable day to watch of test cricket. As it should be, challenging to bat in and helpful to the bowlers but you still have to bowl well and can't just 'put it there'

mo_town · « **Reply #69 on:** August 04, 2021, 04:34:12 PM »

Brilliant bowling from the Indian seamers! Looks like the break has done Bumrah a world of good!

Jimbo · « **Reply #70 on:** August 04, 2021, 04:35:34 PM »

Have to agree, the lack of divergence between red and white ball squads is starting to look a bit foolish. Sibley won't open in ODIs so why do the likes of Bairstow seem to keep getting chances in red ball?

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #71 on:** August 04, 2021, 05:12:49 PM »

Quote from: ProCricketer1982 on August 04, 2021, 04:29:11 PM

Really Chris? It's not baffling at all when you look at the counties and England pathways and if we stick to the players in and around the red ball squads over the last 5 years... Just look at the batsmen they have picked and continue to favour (Bairstow/Buttler/Curran (although, tbf to Bairstow he kinda did ok ish today and Curran seems to be the man to use against india it seems))..

Add in Hales, Duckett blah blah blah.

players being picked are white ball players over the last 5 ish years until fairly recently and those recent ones are raw and we are seeing they aren't really upto it sadly. Let's hope India's batting is as bad and Anderson/Broad can ript hrough the top order

It's been a really enjoyable day to watch of test cricket. As it should be, challenging to bat in and helpful to the bowlers but you still have to bowl well and can't just 'put it there'

No totally agree my question should have been phased in that why isn�t the test side as settled as the ODI side which is basically impossible to get into when so many keep failing. Openers are not really test quality, Crawley jury is out, 4 sorted, Pope again like Crawley, 6 sorted, Butler?

Batting and keeping vs well regarded option with as good red ball stats and much between gloves and then bowlers that actually often made an awful score look just below avg score

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #72 on:** August 04, 2021, 05:20:09 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on August 04, 2021, 05:12:49 PM

No totally agree my question should have been phased in that why isn�t the test side as settled as the ODI side which is basically impossible to get into when so many keep failing. Openers are not really test quality, Crawley jury is out, 4 sorted, Pope again like Crawley, 6 sorted, Butler? Batting and keeping vs well regarded option with as good red ball stats and much between gloves and then bowlers that actually often made an awful score look just below avg score

fair.

Sadly counties just don't pull through many red ball players. The focus from the off is on short formats and has been for years. Where are players learning the skills required for long formats now? From kids to Pro at all levels it's all about attack. No wonder players can't do it. They can smash a kook non moving ball a mile tho

mo_town · « **Reply #73 on:** August 04, 2021, 05:38:58 PM »

Perfect day for India....but given the conditions, as we saw today, all it takes is one bad session.

ppccopener · « **Reply #74 on:** August 04, 2021, 06:28:25 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on August 04, 2021, 05:38:58 PM

Perfect day for India....but given the conditions, as we saw today, all it takes is one bad session.

Maybe but you still have to bowl well in helpful conditions, Shami and Jaspreet were superb today.
It's high class seam and swing bowling with a couple of bad shots from us.

Said before English conditions work well for us until you have bowlers on the opposition as good as we are, if not better.

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