Topic: England v India series (Read 84153 times)

ppccopener · « **Reply #90 on:** August 05, 2021, 06:49:51 PM »

Who is ahead, England or India?.

More rain around might not help it swing but could be good for the bowling side

Buzz · « **Reply #91 on:** August 06, 2021, 12:49:17 PM »

India well on top now...

ppccopener · « **Reply #92 on:** August 06, 2021, 01:32:17 PM »

Anderson should of had 5 or 6 by now he is bailing out our batsmen once again.

rickjames · « **Reply #93 on:** August 06, 2021, 02:19:53 PM »

Seems like he can't catch himself though

SouthpawMark · « **Reply #94 on:** August 06, 2021, 02:48:17 PM »

Bumrah looked a better bat than Sibley.

ppccopener · « **Reply #95 on:** August 06, 2021, 03:18:32 PM »

Bumrah should not of got more than 5. You fear the drops will cost us thou.
We need something from Sibley now, as others have said-there�s not much to hit back with apart from full on the pads or off the hip.

SD · « **Reply #96 on:** August 06, 2021, 11:29:28 PM »

For all the criticism of the batting of our batsman, it is their substandard fielding that is the difference between the two sides here.

Sibley, Burns and Crawley are a farily well established top three now for a trio averaging in the 29-32 bracket, but no doubt their lack of ability as fielders is a significant factor in England's slip catching percentage being right at the bottom of the list.

It seems fashionable to blame England's batting failures on white ball cricket, but there is a word of difference in the quality of the fielding of the guys like Stokes and Bairstow who play for England in the limited overs format and the likes of Sibley and Burns who only play red ball cricket for England

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #97 on:** August 07, 2021, 04:29:53 AM »

Agree, if catches were held off Rahul and others, Ind would have folded for less than Eng score.

jp2408 · « **Reply #98 on:** August 07, 2021, 08:48:59 AM »

Quote from: SD on August 06, 2021, 11:29:28 PM

For all the criticism of the batting of our batsman, it is their substandard fielding that is the difference between the two sides here.

Sibley, Burns and Crawley are a farily well established top three now for a trio averaging in the 29-32 bracket, but no doubt their lack of ability as fielders is a significant factor in England's slip catching percentage being right at the bottom of the list.

It seems fashionable to blame England's batting failures on white ball cricket, but there is a word of difference in the quality of the fielding of the guys like Stokes and Bairstow who play for England in the limited overs format and the likes of Sibley and Burns who only play red ball cricket for England

To be fair to Burns I saw a stat that he has taken 93% of slip catches at international level - way above the team average. But he doesn't always field there so perhaps there is a reason for that..

Crawley I believe is an excellent fielder though his slipping seems to be a bit suspect.

There must be a reason that we are worse and I can't believe it is due to raw attributes (hand eye, reflexes etc) as these are international batsmen we are talking about. Something to do with the training perhaps?

Either way given conditions in England and the fact that we generally accept that we will have low scoring games but win them via our bowling expertise - bad slip fielding is a huge flaw in that plan and something that needs addressing.

Manormanic · « **Reply #99 on:** August 07, 2021, 09:10:52 AM »

Being a top notch slip fielder is not a given - you have to have decent reactions, steely concentration and soft hands, allied to a hint of anticipation. There are not as many great ones as you would expect, and the presumption that batsmen should be naturals at it is piffle.

ppccopener · « **Reply #100 on:** August 07, 2021, 09:17:11 AM »

Anderson is about as good as anyone else to back up that point.
We miss Stokes obviously but we have shelled a few in the first innings.

With no time lost to rain they may have hurt us in this game,maybe still will.

Jimbo · « **Reply #101 on:** August 07, 2021, 09:17:41 AM »

Not convinced they always have the best slip fielders in the slips though. Sibley doesn't look like a natural slip fielder for example.

rickjames · « **Reply #102 on:** August 07, 2021, 10:29:34 AM »

This is hopeless

ppccopener · « **Reply #103 on:** August 07, 2021, 10:34:30 AM »

I don�t think any of us thought we would pass their score without wickets down.
The pressure Root bats under in this team is off the scale. I don�t know how he consistently does it.

Manormanic · « **Reply #104 on:** August 07, 2021, 11:02:49 AM »

Thinking about it, my top ten English slip fielders of the 21st Century doesn't feature that many batsmen - I have Stokes, Flintoff, Ricky Clarke, Ollie Rayner, Mark Alleyne and (because gully is near enough) Wor Collingwood as all rounders alongside Anderson, then Trescothick, Strauss and Lyth.

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