Topic: England v India series (Read 84212 times)

brokenbat · « **Reply #180 on:** August 10, 2021, 06:52:03 PM »

Not sure why Moeen gets so much hate. Yes, he leaks run, but he�s a wicket taker. The below from espncricinfo:

�To date in Test cricket he has claimed 189 wickets at 36.24 in 61 matches, at a sub-60 strike rate that is better than each of the more celebrated spinners above him in England's wicket-takers' list - Derek Underwood, Graeme Swann and Jim Laker.
Meanwhile his record on home soil against India is particularly impressive. He has taken 31 wickets at 22.22 across seven previous matches in 2014 and 2018, including a Player-of-the-Match-winning nine-wicket haul at the Ageas Bowl following his mid-series recall in 2018.�

Best strike rate� and he can bat a bit. Clear winner over Leach.

Manormanic · « **Reply #181 on:** August 10, 2021, 08:24:45 PM »

Quote from: Buzz on August 10, 2021, 03:00:20 PM

Seems as if Sibley, Crawley and Lawrence could all get the chop, for Hameed, Pope and Moeen.

Team being mooted is below (don't shoot the messenger)

Burns
Hameed
YJB
Rooooooot
Pope
Buttler
Mo
Curran
Robinson
Broad
Anderson

Seems a little harsh on Sibley, no one knows about Pope's form. Mo hasn't seen a red ball for a while either (but when has that ever been an impediment to selection) and YJB needs to be at 5 not three (like most of the Eng batsmen at the moment).

What is the point of moving Bairstow to 3. We'll never get over the in/out nature of his recent career if he keeps getting treated like that.

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #182 on:** August 10, 2021, 08:30:58 PM »

I can�t add much more than what�s already been said other than England�s selection policy is just as crazy now as it was under the old regime.
If these are to be believed than we are dropping the young players just before an ashes series when they have been in the spot for the last 18 months for two guys who in Mo and JYB have not produced either and no doubt will get dropped again as they have been tried and tested and either won�t or can�t change the flaws in there game.

Well I guess let�s wait and see what side is picked but 7 is to high for Butler, And with him at 7 mo 8 curren 9 and broad who is now next to useless at 10 that�s a very long tale behind with exception of Root a top 5 that�s just in termoil

ppccopener · « **Reply #183 on:** August 10, 2021, 08:33:01 PM »

Appreciate I'm in a bit of a minority but I don't see England leaving out Sibley. If Bairstow plays(he is) it's got to be 5 or 6.
He's doesn't have it to bat high up.

If England drop Sibley and Crawley we need a 2 and 3, just Crawley and Hameed could bat 3,Root,Pope,Bairstow, Ali or Butler.

Unless they really do think Crawley will come good and let Sibley go. Should Crawley fail again at Lords what then?

I like Crawley and he may come good in the long run but, he's averaging 18 since the 267 knock.

Kulli · « **Reply #184 on:** August 10, 2021, 09:03:33 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on August 10, 2021, 08:30:58 PM

I can�t add much more than what�s already been said other than England�s selection policy is just as crazy now as it was under the old regime.
If these are to be believed than we are dropping the young players just before an ashes series when they have been in the spot for the last 18 months for two guys who in Mo and JYB have not produced either and no doubt will get dropped again as they have been tried and tested and either won�t or can�t change the flaws in there game.

Well I guess let�s wait and see what side is picked but 7 is to high for Butler, And with him at 7 mo 8 curren 9 and broad who is now next to useless at 10 that�s a very long tale behind with exception of Root a top 5 that�s just in termoil

Buttler 7, Mo 8, Curran 9 a long tail? Even all a place higher and Robinson at 9 and that�s still not a bad �tail� it�s what�s above it that�s a issue.

rickjames · « **Reply #185 on:** August 10, 2021, 10:13:19 PM »

I saw a valid point earlier that two years into Silverwood's talk of reinventing our batting that we are going to have a Bayliss-esque middle order of Bairstow, Buttler, Moeen and Curran

Ah

JTtaylor145 · « **Reply #186 on:** August 11, 2021, 06:17:51 AM »

Quote from: Buzz on August 10, 2021, 04:51:50 PM

Broad is likely going to miss this game...
Going for a scan on his calf/ankle. Means we might see a bit of Mark Wood. Which isn't a bad thing.

@Buzz maybe I'm missing something but what is so great about Wood in Test matches? Sure he can certainly bowl fast but are we really celebrating a test match bowling average of 33?

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #187 on:** August 11, 2021, 06:18:29 AM »

Quote from: Kulli on August 10, 2021, 09:03:33 PM

Buttler 7, Mo 8, Curran 9 a long tail? Even all a place higher and Robinson at 9 and that�s still not a bad �tail� it�s what�s above it that�s a issue.

Given recent form yes that�s a long tail. Butler avg 33 which is passable I guess. Mo 28 which is built largely on what he did when he first given his chance. Just checked and avg 19 and 10 in test cricket in 2018 and 2019 which was last years he played before a single test so far in 2021.
Curran is ok but is as likely to score 0 as he is to get a few quick runs and then Broad who is no better than a village batter these days unfortunately and Jimmy so yea pretty long tail to me given what we have been used to in our heyday

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #188 on:** August 11, 2021, 06:31:56 AM »

Quote from: rickjames on August 10, 2021, 10:13:19 PM

I saw a valid point earlier that two years into Silverwood's talk of reinventing our batting that we are going to have a Bayliss-esque middle order of Bairstow, Buttler, Moeen and Curran

Ah

Good spot.. that's actually amusing.

God England is a dire dire dire team.

The question is... should one of them other than Root get some runs etc over the next 12 months.. Will we suddenly be reading about how great that player is (or the team).. How they should always be in the side (thinking a Bairstow ton here for example, or a Curran India esq performance).....

or will people go 'fair one, got some runs but we know it's just a flash in the pan'

rickjames · « **Reply #189 on:** August 11, 2021, 07:41:20 AM »

Both teams docked 2 WTC points as well as 40% match fee fine in relation to slow over rates.

Wonder if the penny will finally drop.

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #190 on:** August 11, 2021, 08:35:10 AM »

Shardul Thakur out for the Indians with a muscle injury.
Ashwin vs Ishant look like they are competing for that spot.

mo_town · « **Reply #191 on:** August 11, 2021, 08:56:26 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Navarro on August 11, 2021, 08:35:10 AM

Shardul Thakur out for the Indians with a muscle injury.
Ashwin vs Ishant look like they are competing for that spot.

Shardul would be a big loss! He is the only one who has the ability to shape the ball away from the right handers in this bowling line up. He has added the necessary variety in the attack. Such a shame!

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #192 on:** August 11, 2021, 10:01:16 AM »

Being reported that James Anderson is now also a doubt for Lords...ffs

ProCricketer1982 · « **Reply #193 on:** August 11, 2021, 10:07:14 AM »

Quote from: Jeff Navarro on August 11, 2021, 10:01:16 AM

Being reported that James Anderson is now also a doubt for Lords...ffs

He's old now.. bound to pick up injuries sadly. It'll happen more and more

golders · « **Reply #194 on:** August 11, 2021, 10:31:14 AM »

Thought it was Broad who's struggling, Mahmood called up to warm the bench and keep the squad huuuuge. At least Bess has been allowed to leave to play some hactual cricket.

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