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Re: England v India series
« Reply #225 on: August 12, 2021, 10:56:26 AM »

I can’t add much more than what’s already been said other than England’s selection policy is just as crazy now as it was under the old regime.
If these are to be believed than we are dropping the young players just before an ashes series when they have been in the spot for the last 18 months for two guys who in Mo and JYB have not produced either and no doubt will get dropped again as they have been tried and tested and either won’t or can’t change the flaws in there game.

Well I guess let’s wait and see what side is picked but 7 is to high for Butler, And with him at 7 mo 8  curren 9 and broad who is now next to useless at 10 that’s a very long tale behind with exception of Root a top 5 that’s just in termoil

Keen to hear your thoughts on Bumrah (average 3.5) at 8 if Mo is too weak 😁

That’s some tail, if we can get the batters out!
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« Reply #226 on: August 12, 2021, 11:09:18 AM »

Very pleased to see Mo back, especially if he can bring his Hundred form.

Less pleased to see Crawley dropped for Hameed. I’m happy to see Hameed get another go, but it should have been at the expense of one of Sibley or Burns. With the top three England have chosen England will be lucky to score at more than 1.5 per over.
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« Reply #227 on: August 12, 2021, 11:15:11 AM »

Very pleased to see Mo back, especially if he can bring his Hundred form.

Less pleased to see Crawley dropped for Hameed. I’m happy to see Hameed get another go, but it should have been at the expense of one of Sibley or Burns. With the top three England have chosen England will be lucky to score at more than 1.5 per over.


Here we go ‘in for his 100 form’ lol lol lol lol
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #228 on: August 12, 2021, 11:19:55 AM »

Very pleased to see Mo back, especially if he can bring his Hundred form.

Less pleased to see Crawley dropped for Hameed. I’m happy to see Hameed get another go, but it should have been at the expense of one of Sibley or Burns. With the top three England have chosen England will be lucky to score at more than 1.5 per over.

Hameed is not long off an 80odd ball century in a List A game. He's definitely added a bit more intent than he had on debut.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #229 on: August 12, 2021, 11:26:59 AM »

England might also have an eye on the future, Hameed has always opened and Bairstow is back in the middle order.
There is Pope and Crawley who you might think will be back in an around the squad, and Lawrence.
I don't see us disregarding those players, a lot of time has been invested. Crawley and Pope look to have the allround game to return.

So I think Sibley, who gets in my team, might be on borrowed time.
There is of course Stokes to fit back in when he comes back.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #230 on: August 12, 2021, 11:31:28 AM »

Curran singlehandedly killing off any pressure created
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #231 on: August 12, 2021, 12:30:05 PM »

Atherton laying into Harrison here, it's beautiful. Twist the knife...
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #232 on: August 12, 2021, 12:49:44 PM »

Suspect back in the day that a fast bowler with a calf niggle would have just bandaged it up and cracked on, rather than having a scan and a few games off. Better miss a couple of games than retire wrecked after 30 tests.

I may be off the mark somewhat but is the greater emphasis on fielding also a contributing factor to bowler fitness. In the 20th Century a bowler would do his spell then go and field in a fairly easy spot and not be expected to be Neil Fairbrother-esque in the field. Chasing a boundary-bound ball involved using the boot etc. These days a bowler is expected to contribute in the field and so there is less rest between spells.
There is also a higher expectation for a seamer to start a spell at high effort levels, maybe one ball to loosen up and then full pace. Certainly in the 80s and earlier a seamer could get almost a whole over to get up to speed. And there were fewer speed measurements to gauge if a bowler was giving 100%.
This means that warm ups are much more intense nowadays and therefore more injuries occur before the match starts.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #233 on: August 12, 2021, 02:30:08 PM »

Suspect back in the day that a fast bowler with a calf niggle would have just bandaged it up and cracked on, rather than having a scan and a few games off. Better miss a couple of games than retire wrecked after 30 tests.

Have you ever torn or strained your calf? It is impossible to even walk briskly.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #234 on: August 12, 2021, 02:30:42 PM »

This is going well.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #235 on: August 12, 2021, 02:34:43 PM »

This is going well.

Both openers batted well last game and are batting well again. It's normally pretty flat at Lords but I think we are seeing how low on confidence we are with the bat.
Any sign of overheads are we stick them in. I don't really blame Root, he must be thinking we could collapse.

Jimmy just got one.  :)
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #236 on: August 12, 2021, 02:40:34 PM »

Both openers batted well last game and are batting well again. It's normally pretty flat at Lords but I think we are seeing how low on confidence we are with the bat.
Any sign of overheads are we stick them in. I don't really blame Root, he must be thinking we could collapse.

Jimmy just got one.  :)

Thank goodness for Sir Jimmy.

You are being far too kind in saying Root thinks we could collapse - I think we WOULD collapse! We collapse on days where there isn’t a cloud in the sky, so today we’d have been done for.
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #237 on: August 12, 2021, 03:57:03 PM »

Keen to hear your thoughts on Bumrah (average 3.5) at 8 if Mo is too weak 😁

That’s some tail, if we can get the batters out!

Bumrah or Mickey Mouse at 8 is fine with me a hen you have, Shawna, kholi, Rahana, Pant above but we don’t. We have Root and that’s it currently.

Let’s hope he comes good but picked on 100 form and given his previous track record over last couple of years I’m afraid I think it will be same old same old.

Also looks like we could be chasing a fair few here
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Re: England v India series
« Reply #238 on: August 12, 2021, 04:07:40 PM »

Anyone else notice the analysis of Kohli taking guard by Strauss. How he marked all 3 stumps as usual then went down pitch a little to make a mark outside off stump on the line where he wants to be looking to leave the ball. Surely that's not allowed. He wasn't marking his guard, and even walked a couple of steps down pitch to do it, never seen that before.

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Re: England v India series
« Reply #239 on: August 12, 2021, 04:32:32 PM »

Would Root now be regretting the decision to bowl first? Should he have been more positive and batted first? I am guessing the cloud cover must have influenced the decision but you also need the bowling attack to exploit conditions.
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