Topic: England v India series (Read 83943 times)

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #705 on:** September 06, 2021, 03:22:22 PM »

If you don't try to win chasing 300 with 10 wickets in hand and 90 overs to go on a flat pitch, then on any other pitch, you will aim for a draw upfront. In most cases, if you are too defensive, you will get a ball with your name on it. Have seen with Pujara in this series and countless others in past. Also it lets the bowling team get on top as now they don't have to worry about losing option, it is just a win or draw for them.
I would rather have the team try for a win and win some and lose some rather than try to draw out every such game (and still draw some and lose some).

This is just my view, not saying it is necessarily the right view as everyone sees things differently.

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #706 on:** September 06, 2021, 03:27:12 PM »

The loss isn�t on Hameed at all ffs. He laid a platform. Not his fault that India�s attack murdered the rest of the batting line up.

ppccopener · « **Reply #707 on:** September 06, 2021, 03:30:29 PM »

Quote from: Jeff Navarro on September 06, 2021, 03:27:12 PM

The loss isn�t on Hameed at all ffs. He laid a platform. Not his fault that India�s attack murdered the rest of the batting line up.

Some clear thinking at last

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #708 on:** September 06, 2021, 03:35:39 PM »

I don't think anyone blaming Hameed for the loss. Just when you analyze things after, and think if some things played out differently, if that could have changed the result. Doesn't mean you are saying he is the reason for all the things that happened. Still have to appreciate him scoring 60 runs in a team score of 200 odd.

You could also think what if Pope, Bairstow and Mo scored 30 odd each, what if Eng bowlers restricted Ind to lower, etc., but that is obvious part everyone agrees upon, there is no fun in that discussion

mo_town · « **Reply #709 on:** September 06, 2021, 03:40:32 PM »

The only person to blame is Rory Burns...he missed that catch in the slips off Rohit in the second innings when he lost the ball and that cost Eng the match!

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #710 on:** September 06, 2021, 03:41:23 PM »

Heavyweight performance by a heavyweight side. World class captaincy from Kohli and an incredible bowling attack. Too good.

kaustav · « **Reply #711 on:** September 06, 2021, 03:57:03 PM »

As a non-English supporter, I find Joe Root classy in every respect on and off the field, even during the press conferences, with that smile on his face. I hope the management has his back.

rickjames · « **Reply #712 on:** September 06, 2021, 03:57:35 PM »

Something like our 8th collapse this year.

mo_town · « **Reply #713 on:** September 06, 2021, 04:01:47 PM »

This team needs Ben Stokes. Period. Without Stokes, there is no fire in either the batting or bowling. The English attack can only prosper when the ball is swinging miles, but noone has the talent to to make things work when conditions are favorable. I dread to think what Australia will do to this side in their home conditions!

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #714 on:** September 06, 2021, 04:06:04 PM »

To be fair to Eng, this is their 2nd team with many first choice players missing against a full strength Indian side, yet the series has been pretty even and mostly decided by one session collapse on either side really. So don't think there is much diff between the two sides. Each side has some magnificent individual performances masking its own set of issues to get through the line.

ppccopener · « **Reply #715 on:** September 06, 2021, 04:11:37 PM »

Quote from: mo_town on September 06, 2021, 04:01:47 PM

This team needs Ben Stokes. Period. Without Stokes, there is no fire in either the batting or bowling. The English attack can only prosper when the ball is swinging miles, but noone has the talent to to make things work when conditions are favorable. I dread to think what Australia will do to this side in their home conditions!

He has definatley been missed. I think he is needed in the think tank and has been since Root became Captain.That�s ok, Root can�t be a great captain and our best batsman.
Butler looks unlikely to tour and it could be Stokes is missing also.
He�s a big loss and a leader on the field.

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #716 on:** September 06, 2021, 04:13:41 PM »

Quote from: adb club cricketer on September 06, 2021, 04:06:04 PM

To be fair to Eng, this is their 2nd team with many first choice players missing against a full strength Indian side, yet the series has been pretty even and mostly decided by one session collapse on either side really. So don't think there is much diff between the two sides. Each side has its own set of issues masked by some magnificent individual performances to get through the line.

Stokes and Broad are missing. Aside from that this is the best we�ve got.
That said the bowling hasn�t really missed Broad anyway.

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #717 on:** September 06, 2021, 04:15:31 PM »

Quote from: Jeff Navarro on September 06, 2021, 04:13:41 PM

Stokes and Broad are missing. Aside from that this is the best we�ve got.
That said the bowling hasn�t really missed Broad anyway.

Archer

Jeff Navarro · « **Reply #718 on:** September 06, 2021, 04:26:13 PM »

Quote from: adb club cricketer on September 06, 2021, 04:15:31 PM

Archer

In seaming conditions Archer wouldn�t get a look in over Woakes or Robinson

Jimbo · « **Reply #719 on:** September 06, 2021, 04:50:25 PM »

Quote from: Jeff Navarro on September 06, 2021, 04:26:13 PM

In seaming conditions Archer wouldn�t get a look in over Woakes or Robinson

He would be a point of difference though. As would Wood or Stone.

IMO they'd be a stronger side with Foakes too rather than Bairstow.

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