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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #240 on: December 11, 2021, 11:48:06 PM »

Completely agree that Pope has the potential and really hope that he matures into what he could be. Wasn't really picking on him so much as just his performance in this test for a comparison but it's also a little sad that we re looking at 35 & 5 and saying he was one of the better performers!
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« Reply #241 on: December 11, 2021, 11:52:02 PM »

I was only talking about first innings really, I think he will get runs this series though. Expect him to get a few decent scores as it progresses.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #242 on: December 12, 2021, 01:18:01 AM »

Hameed
Crawley
Malan
Root
Stokes
Pope
Butler
Foakes
Robinson
Broad
Anderson

That’s my team, butler just focus on batting and get that avg where it should be with a player of his ability. Root is your spinner, he doesn’t trust Leach and never has so may as well do it himself and he ain’t that bad and gives you your 5 bowlers for the next test. As much as we expect Broad and Anderson to make a difference with a pink ball under lights, I would imagine Hazelwood and Cummings will he just as effective given the conditions so going to be a very tough next test match.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #243 on: December 12, 2021, 03:59:52 AM »

Hameed
Crawley
Malan
Root
Stokes
Pope
Butler
Foakes
Robinson
Broad
Anderson

That’s my team, butler just focus on batting and get that avg where it should be with a player of his ability. Root is your spinner, he doesn’t trust Leach and never has so may as well do it himself and he ain’t that bad and gives you your 5 bowlers for the next test. As much as we expect Broad and Anderson to make a difference with a pink ball under lights, I would imagine Hazelwood and Cummings will he just as effective given the conditions so going to be a very tough next test match.

I think batting wise this would be my lineup up to number 7, but I think it’s risky to class stokes as a bowling option now, I think if you get 10/15 overs out of him across two innings root has done extremely well. I’d go with four seamers (Jimmy, broad, Robinson & wood) and have root as my spin option.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #244 on: December 12, 2021, 08:53:45 AM »

Hazlewood out of 2nd test at Adelaide
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #245 on: December 12, 2021, 09:02:17 AM »

Hameed
Crawley
Malan
Root
Stokes
Pope
Butler
Foakes
Robinson
Broad
Anderson

That’s my team, butler just focus on batting and get that avg where it should be with a player of his ability. Root is your spinner, he doesn’t trust Leach and never has so may as well do it himself and he ain’t that bad and gives you your 5 bowlers for the next test. As much as we expect Broad and Anderson to make a difference with a pink ball under lights, I would imagine Hazelwood and Cummings will he just as effective given the conditions so going to be a very tough next test match.

I would be tempted to do something a bit left field.

Hameed
Burns
Malan
Root
Stokes
Pope
Lawrence
Butler
Robinson
Anderson
Broad

Burns gets a last chance, with his technique he seems to either get none or lots so I think is worth another go.

Then I would basically play another batter, Lawrence, instead of Woakes, so Root, Stokes and Lawrence (who bowled extremely well for the Lions in Oz) to make up the rest of the overs. And the obvious benefit of the extra batter in our frail batting line up.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #246 on: December 12, 2021, 09:41:06 AM »

I would be tempted to do something a bit left field.

Hameed
Burns
Malan
Root
Stokes
Pope
Lawrence
Butler
Robinson
Anderson
Broad

Burns gets a last chance, with his technique he seems to either get none or lots so I think is worth another go.

Then I would basically play another batter, Lawrence, instead of Woakes, so Root, Stokes and Lawrence (who bowled extremely well for the Lions in Oz) to make up the rest of the overs. And the obvious benefit of the extra batter in our frail batting line up.

I appreciate the creativity here. Two spin option albeit part-timers, batting heavy. I think this could be a day/night test specific team as the seamers are all right arm medium-fast and that could get a bit samey as mentioned above somewhere. Saying that, they can all move the ball well, hence why I say it might be a good day/night team.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #247 on: December 12, 2021, 11:02:38 AM »

Going in with 4 bowlers and one of them Stokes, if aus bat well we’ll need to replace all 4 for the remaining tests!
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #248 on: December 12, 2021, 11:41:58 AM »

Any good in with 4 bowlers and one of them Stokes, if aus bat well we’ll need to replace all 4 for the remaining tests!

Appreciate what you're saying but the Pink Ball tests historically have lower scores and this Aussie batting line up can be got at definitely if we take the chances that come.

The Aussies actually bowled more overs than us in the 1st test, as showed in Hazelwood's injury.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #249 on: December 12, 2021, 12:41:42 PM »

The other thing is if we will play a spinner or Root will fill in some overs.
The day night games spinners have played a part and it’s impossible for the Aussies to leave out Lyon.

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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #250 on: December 12, 2021, 01:14:42 PM »

Stokes should be considered a specialist batsman for the next game in my view.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #251 on: December 12, 2021, 01:35:13 PM »

I think as it's a day night it's more important to go with 4 seamers, rather than 3 and an extra bat. Personally i think Wood or Woakes would give you much more value than Lawrence (respectively new to test cricket) would with the bat and a few fill in overs. Root can do that job, even Malan if desperate.

Hameed
Burns (just as i don't see anyone else, only Crawley)
Malan
Root
Stokes
Pope
Butler
Wood (or Woakes)
Robinson
Broad
Anderson
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #252 on: December 12, 2021, 03:38:31 PM »

I think as it's a day night it's more important to go with 4 seamers, rather than 3 and an extra bat. Personally i think Wood or Woakes would give you much more value than Lawrence (respectively new to test cricket) would with the bat and a few fill in overs. Root can do that job, even Malan if desperate.

Hameed
Burns (just as i don't see anyone else, only Crawley)
Malan
Root
Stokes
Pope
Butler
Wood (or Woakes)
Robinson
Broad
Anderson

TBF I hadn't considered Malan's possible fill in overs.

The extra batsman would be a radical step, something a bit out there and 4 seamers is the far more likely team.

Australian team likely to be Richardson for Hazelwood the only change.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #253 on: December 12, 2021, 04:05:29 PM »

TBF I hadn't considered Malan's possible fill in overs.

The extra batsman would be a radical step, something a bit out there and 4 seamers is the far more likely team.

Australian team likely to be Richardson for Hazelwood the only change.

Poor Neser, probably wondering what he needs to do to make his test debut.
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Re: Ashes Test Series - 2021/22
« Reply #254 on: December 12, 2021, 04:51:31 PM »

What is remarkable given Silverwood has spent two years banging on ad nauseum about preparation for this series is that there is no sense whatsoever from the first test of being in anyway prepared for this.

Leach is a classic example.  It is always going to be a tough ask to fit in a guy who doesn't bat and isn't a great fielder when he doesn't take first innings wickets, bowl well to left handers or keep the runs down when not taking wickets.  How he suddenly drops into the team on a green seamer is beyond comprehension.

Second test looks a straight swap of Anderson and Broad for Woakes and Leach.  I don't rate Burns at this level and he is the worst slip fielder I can remember seeing regularly fielding in an international cordon (plus ducking out of facing the first ball in the second innings isn't a great statement) but I struggle to see how you can drop an opner one game into the series.
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