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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #45 on: November 10, 2021, 12:03:23 PM »



Moxon and Vaughan did not comply with the inquiry and that to me is far worse than one player using an offensive term and then apologising. I hope the player keeps his job.



It was disturbing to find out that the reason why a majority of Rafiq's allegations were not upheld by the report commissioned by Yorkshire was that a number of those connected to the Club simply refused to cooperate with it.  Moxon's position is plainly untenable but it is hard to see how as a current employee, the Club didn't instruct him ay the time that he was required to cooperate
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #46 on: November 10, 2021, 08:33:29 PM »

Gale had been suspended for a tweet he sent, then deleted, in 2010. Unrelated to this case, but still racist language.

What I don’t understand is why it takes so long for this to come out if it’s been on Twitter. Why wasn’t this highlighted when he got the job in 2016?

Those that have tweeted and it’s still there, how have they not deleted it yet or had action accordingly?  Like the bowler who got called up for England then his tweets were highlighted. How on earth hasn’t someone highlighted these sooner?

More pertinently, how do the ECB now justify not disciplining Anderson and particularly Buttler for their earlier tweets?
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #47 on: November 15, 2021, 09:01:40 AM »

Adil Rashid has now backed up Rafiq’s claims by Vaughan exactly what was said to the group of Asian players.

Vaughan is not telling the truth and I hope he is toasted by all broadcasters now.

There’s one thing using the wrong offensive terms and saying sorry, it’s quite another denying you ever said them.

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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #48 on: November 15, 2021, 05:06:16 PM »

I suspected this would go beyond Yorkshire...
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #49 on: November 15, 2021, 05:46:18 PM »

Vaughan's defence is looking pretty suspect when three people confirmed they heard his comment and he refused to take part in Yorkshire's investigation.   
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« Reply #50 on: November 15, 2021, 06:05:08 PM »

Vaughan's defence is looking pretty suspect when three people confirmed they heard his comment and he refused to take part in Yorkshire's investigation.   

Yes exactly. By not cooperating essential those that chose that option are saying there is nothing wrong and nothing to change.
It’s impossible to move forward with that
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #51 on: November 16, 2021, 10:05:07 AM »

This is horrible to listen to from Rafiq and some of the stuff he's had to go through.

Plenty more high profiles names as well...
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #52 on: November 16, 2021, 10:06:25 AM »

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/live/cricket/59294668

DCMS select committee is live on BBC - few other names been mentioned now
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #53 on: November 16, 2021, 10:11:57 AM »

I'm watching the Select Committee hearing live.  Azeem Rafiq is currently making his statements. 


A few additional names, previously unmentioned, have already been dropped in relation to his experiences.  No doubt the media will gorge on these.  However, for me two things stand out.  His still raw emotion over the loss of his son and the lack of support he received from YCCC at the time (in fact he raises instances where it led to more abuse).  And his strong view that it is not just YCCC, but endemic within the professional game.       
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #54 on: November 16, 2021, 10:24:20 AM »

Think it's significant what he's said about how normalised racism was, that white players could forget things even happened.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #55 on: November 16, 2021, 11:26:42 AM »

Pleased to learn he was positive about Joe Root. I like Root and would have been disappointed had he been in the mire..
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« Reply #56 on: November 16, 2021, 11:34:39 AM »

Pleased to learn he was positive about Joe Root. I like Root and would have been disappointed had he been in the mire..

Absolutely, it’s a new ECB programme of fairness for all but Root is the face of that and it’s hard to believe he does not genuinely believe that is the way forward
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #57 on: November 16, 2021, 11:49:28 AM »

And we move from the clarity and emotion of Azeem's testimony to the vacuous guff and fence sitting of the ex and current non-exec Chairmen...


YCCC have to go on a journey apparently.  No sh!t Sherlock.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #58 on: November 16, 2021, 12:13:50 PM »

It’s a significant issue the club are saying….and we don’t know if it’s true….that they cannot sack anyone without permission from the Colin Graves Trust.

If this is correct it may explain why those that wanted to clean up, and there must be those people at the club, had no authority to do so including the head honcho.

That situation essentially is a toothless and powerless management team.

I’d be interested to know if that really is the situation.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #59 on: November 16, 2021, 12:19:03 PM »

Noone believes Root has any racial issues but the fact he has denied outright he ever saw any racism at Yorkshire ever is a problem, clearly a lie

Does anyone even believe that ?. It was rife . Root sadly is protecting his mates

Root is a good man as said by rafiq should have done the honourable thing rather than burying the truth at yorkshire

Pleased to learn he was positive about Joe Root. I like Root and would have been disappointed had he been in the mire..
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