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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #120 on: November 16, 2021, 07:40:02 PM »

Not in a "have a curry night and all will be well" context?

In the context of a social event not based around alcohol...

That was an example.... take it how you wish...
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #121 on: November 16, 2021, 07:40:23 PM »

Looks like this will go on for some time and now that even the PM has got involved. Really not good for some big names in English cricket.

What so sad is that someone’s whole life’s work on getting to the near top in his chosen profession can’t be ruined by pure ignorance. This goes far deeper than banter which in an ideal world isn’t acceptable but is accepted in all top level sports dressing rooms until it gets to a point that it can have the type of effect its had on Rafiq. Someone must have known this was going over the line but was to scared to speak up, the senior board responsible for the club chose to ignore it and then try and just sweep it away and even in the face of all the come back have still failed to hold there hands up.

I dont pretend to be an expert on this case but it’s just so sad someone has been treated this way for so long.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #122 on: November 16, 2021, 07:55:02 PM »

The PM has got involved? Wow!
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #123 on: November 16, 2021, 08:04:20 PM »

Not sure what immediate action is the PM has called for but the way this has gone it is not impossible to imagine Yorkshire CC being dismantled completely.

The ECB will have to do something now they may of wished more time to sort out.

It’s very sad actually. There must be without a doubt some good people at Yorkshire.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #124 on: November 16, 2021, 09:13:34 PM »



It’s very sad actually. There must be without a doubt some good people at Yorkshire.

Oh I imagine 95% of people associated with YCCC are without doubt good people and will be totally gutted with how there club is being portrayed. Hundreds of years of heritage within one of the biggest and no doubt proudest counties around given there success at domestic level and also the international players that have come through and played for YCCC
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #125 on: November 16, 2021, 11:27:09 PM »

It’s pretty ignorant for team mates to use an English name for a foreign player but we have all been in dressing rooms where someone who thinks you might struggle with their names shortens it for you

For example Chetswara might be call me Chets….

But if would have to come from him. To substitute an English name is ignorant and should not be done.

Believe he's called Che around the India set up quite often. The notion that his English teammates couldn't have learned that is laughable, pure wilful ignorance at work.

I've played cricket with more than a few lads whose names I couldn't pronounce easily. It was as simple as asking "sorry mate, how do you pronounce your name?" and going with that. Basic courtesy and common decency.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #126 on: November 16, 2021, 11:35:27 PM »

Believe he's called Che around the India set up quite often. The notion that his English teammates couldn't have learned that is laughable, pure wilful ignorance at work.

I've played cricket with more than a few lads whose names I couldn't pronounce easily. It was as simple as asking "sorry mate, how do you pronounce your name?" and going with that. Basic courtesy and common decency.

It's not rocket science is it, shocking really. I'm sure someone would much rather you ask them how to pronounce their name correctly rather than not try at all and patronise them.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #127 on: November 17, 2021, 07:23:11 AM »

Will the EcB want their top players associated with Yorkshire?
Will Root/Bairstow/Rashid/Malan’s PR teams want them to move on?
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #128 on: November 17, 2021, 08:48:40 AM »

Will the EcB want their top players associated with Yorkshire?
Will Root/Bairstow/Rashid/Malan’s PR teams want them to move on?

That’s a very good point. Root and Bairstow have been there from the junior section and you would imagine their heart is just for their club.

I guess they would want to be part of a new culture.

Rashid is the key one I think, he has not said much but has clearly seen what has gone on and been subject to it himself.

But it’s such a mess you would not rule anything out.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #129 on: November 17, 2021, 09:05:00 AM »

Losing Rashid would be most damaging as after this mess, they would want to be showing progress.

It's ironic that the pinnacle of the game ... the England squad has such great comradeship with Morgan leading the way...

As others have mentioned, maybe he knew about Hales character and didn't want him in the team.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #130 on: November 17, 2021, 03:44:26 PM »

It's not rocket science is it, shocking really. I'm sure someone would much rather you ask them how to pronounce their name correctly rather than not try at all and patronise them.

Agree Jamie, easy to do.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #131 on: November 18, 2021, 05:02:45 PM »

Further issues with historic behaviours at Yorkshire...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59338118
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #132 on: November 18, 2021, 05:11:49 PM »

Further issues with historic behaviours at Yorkshire...

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/59338118

Doesn't look good... how old was he?

Same as Ollie Robinson.

If people have apologised for their actions and say they have changed... he surely cannot go after them now.

Messed up...



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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #133 on: November 18, 2021, 05:36:11 PM »

In the context of a social event not based around alcohol...

That was an example.... take it how you wish...

Most cricketers I have known would be disappointed if a curry night didn't involve the drinking of 6 or 8 pints of lager.
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Re: Azeem Rafiq and Yorkshire CCC
« Reply #134 on: November 18, 2021, 07:28:37 PM »

Problem with that antisemitic stuff now is that the public will just throw the focus on him rather than the wider issues. Beyond frustrating
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