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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #15 on: May 26, 2022, 07:01:57 PM »
Quote from: Chad on May 26, 2022, 05:39:37 PM
I wouldn't say undeserved - yes, those era of bats were exceptional, when they had the Amplus, Distinction, Master, S6, Solution, etc etc. But then their prices ballooned and they just started importing all their bats from India whilst under the pretence that they were made here. You're essentially paying £2-500 on top of what you would pay for a bat for knocking in, surface cracks and some stickers. Back in the days of the Distinction and the Amplus, they at least had some USP, and they were expensive, but not £700 expensive!

Again, are those credible claims? If they were outright lying, somebody should've exposed them.

Regarding pricing, everything is expensive now. I am not buying bats now but when I was hunting for them (left and right), I was paying for the "sure" thing. M&H were a "sure" thing for me. So were Kranzbuhlers. Most custom bats, albeit priced lower, turned out to be not a "sure" thing.

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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #16 on: May 26, 2022, 07:15:45 PM »
Quote from: InternalTraining on May 26, 2022, 07:01:57 PM
Again, are those credible claims? If they were outright lying, somebody should've exposed them.

Regarding pricing, everything is expensive now. I am not buying bats now but when I was hunting for them (left and right), I was paying for the "sure" thing. M&H were a "sure" thing for me. So were Kranzbuhlers. Most custom bats, albeit priced lower, turned out to be not a "sure" thing.

What is a 'sure thing'? I'm curious...
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #17 on: May 26, 2022, 08:16:16 PM »
Good luck with telling a club cricketer their M&H was made in India. ;)

Atherton and Butcher were talking about the brand on Sky commentary last night. They very much gave the impression that their bats were still made at the County Ground. Tom Abell's probably was.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #18 on: May 26, 2022, 08:46:42 PM »
Thing is, people aren't saying if they don't press or even shape their bats here that they're not good. Nothing wrong with that at all if the end product is good. It's whether it's clear or of its sometimes misleading in people's eyes.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #19 on: May 26, 2022, 09:33:34 PM »
Quote from: InternalTraining on May 26, 2022, 06:56:04 PM
Were those credible claims?

From individuals who are generally well informed and who I would trust not to spout BS, yes.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #20 on: May 27, 2022, 01:33:24 AM »
I have only ever seen firm evidence that M&H outsourced some lower grade bats to India.

I have not seen anything that suggests or confirms that ALL M&H bats are produced in India.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #21 on: May 27, 2022, 10:04:59 AM »
Quote from: InternalTraining on May 26, 2022, 07:01:57 PM
Again, are those credible claims? If they were outright lying, somebody should've exposed them.

Regarding pricing, everything is expensive now. I am not buying bats now but when I was hunting for them (left and right), I was paying for the "sure" thing. M&H were a "sure" thing for me. So were Kranzbuhlers. Most custom bats, albeit priced lower, turned out to be not a "sure" thing.

Quote from: billyb on May 27, 2022, 01:33:24 AM
I have only ever seen firm evidence that M&H outsourced some lower grade bats to India.

I have not seen anything that suggests or confirms that ALL M&H bats are produced in India.



Apologies, not all - that was poorly worded on my part. They have used a UK batmaker in the past (Unsure if they still do), and do shape up some bats on site AFAIK. They do all their knocking in house, which is probably why you've had a good time using M&H, they're generally ready to go.


Personally have no issue with their business model - more that they weren't transparent with not making (the majority of) their own bats. Don't know if this is still the case in terms of the transparency.

https://www.instagram.com/p/CZqt-Uzo2PF/ - Was a video someone did on M&H a while back.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #22 on: May 27, 2022, 11:38:47 AM »
Others are guilty too.

This has been one of my favourite topics in the past, but I recently discovered it is technically against the rules of the site
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #23 on: May 27, 2022, 02:30:17 PM »
For those who have been here a while you used to be able to get the export records from India, though this stopped in 2016.

https://www.zauba.com/export-amplus-bats-hs-code.html
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #24 on: May 27, 2022, 06:50:34 PM »
Decent mark up that  :o
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #25 on: May 28, 2022, 03:10:03 PM »
Quote from: Yorkershire on May 26, 2022, 07:15:45 PM
What is a 'sure thing'? I'm curious...

Ping. Performance. My Amplus had insane ping from the start. I don't recall doing much , if any, knocking or preparation.

Easy boundaries.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #26 on: May 29, 2022, 12:04:08 AM »
Quote from: InternalTraining on May 28, 2022, 03:10:03 PM
Ping. Performance. My Amplus had insane ping from the start. I don't recall doing much , if any, knocking or preparation.

Easy boundaries.

So "a good bat"? No doubt it was a good stick but could say that about any number of brands who don't charge M&H prices.
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #27 on: May 29, 2022, 02:25:41 AM »
Quote from: Jimbo on May 29, 2022, 12:04:08 AM
So "a good bat"? No doubt it was a good stick but could say that about any number of brands who don't charge M&H prices.

Let's not get cute with quoting phrase, "a good bat", that I didn't use. My Amplus far exceeded what you'd consider "a good bat".
 
You also end up with a lot of duds (custom bats) that don't charge the M&H prices. You see how that logic of yours works both ways. :D
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #28 on: May 29, 2022, 07:23:46 AM »
Quote from: InternalTraining on May 28, 2022, 03:10:03 PM
Ping. Performance. My Amplus had insane ping from the start. I don't recall doing much , if any, knocking or preparation.

Easy boundaries.
Or you could buy an SS for a third of the price. Pay someone to knock it in and still have a solid chunk of change in your pocket…
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Re: Millichamp and Hall
« Reply #29 on: May 29, 2022, 07:29:27 AM »
Quote from: Jimbo on May 26, 2022, 04:05:10 PM
Do you offer them as any other mythical creatures Jonny?  :D

Certainly not unicorns mate! 😂
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