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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #45 on: June 02, 2022, 05:55:10 PM »

Yup - so nobody's driving the bus (or nobody with a brain is driving the bus!)

I don't often agree with Vaughan, but he's absolutely right - promising county batters were looking at this side, and the only slot free was No.3 - why wasn't Pope et al banging on their coaches door, demanding to bat no3 rather than scoring easy runs at 5 or 6?

NZ are a good side, with a good attack, so this was always possible - but there are plenty of openers / no3's in the frame - people who are used to batting in that position, have we really given ourselves a chance to get runs early in our innings?

Crawley's not looking so bad at the mo, and I'm sorry, but I remain unconvinced by Lees.

Most importantly, we had sooooooooooo much time, so more than a little blame must lie at the door of Stokes / Root / Bairstow, to fail to recognise that grinding out a slow 25 would've put us in a good position tonight.

Out test batting just makes me so angry at the moment.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #46 on: June 02, 2022, 09:31:03 PM »

In fairness it was obviously a bowling day. Not that it excuses the frailties of our batting. But if anybody can tell me this didnt make more sense, I'm all ears...

Lees
Crawley
Malan
Root
Brook
Stokes
Bairstow
Potts
Leach
Broad
Anderson
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #47 on: June 02, 2022, 09:32:08 PM »

Or Root at 3 and Foakes in at 7 (I know there's a lot of love for Foakes on the forum)
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #48 on: June 02, 2022, 10:00:07 PM »

I'm not so much annoyed that Brook didn't play as that Bairstow did.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #49 on: June 02, 2022, 10:14:24 PM »

Lawrence who is actually fit-maybe too late to make this squad.


Actually not fit. Was fit when squad was announced, but was coming back from an injury and had no form. Then had a recurrence.

I don't understand why people think coming in at 59-2 (not improbable) would be so much better than coming in at 59-1.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #50 on: June 02, 2022, 10:17:02 PM »

In fairness it was obviously a bowling day. Not that it excuses the frailties of our batting. But if anybody can tell me this didnt make more sense, I'm all ears...

Lees
Crawley
Malan
Root
Brook
Stokes
Bairstow
Potts
Leach
Broad
Anderson

Pope is regarded as the best young batsman in the country, and Foakes the best wicketkeeper.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #51 on: June 03, 2022, 10:35:21 AM »

Foakes hype seems totally unjustified. Totally average batsman.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #52 on: June 03, 2022, 10:41:51 AM »

Didn't think it would take long. Watch it go exactly the same way with Brook and Parkinson. :D
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #53 on: June 03, 2022, 10:46:22 AM »

Foakes hype seems totally unjustified. Totally average batsman.
Think the hypes is about his keeping, like the catch to get Kane.

Was a poor shot, no denying that.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #54 on: June 03, 2022, 10:55:01 AM »

And another excellent grab that may not otherwise have been taken 😉
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #55 on: June 03, 2022, 11:26:00 AM »

Foakes has taken to very similar catches diving forward and made it look routine and maybe that’s why we don’t notice so much.

I’m a fan I think he is the best keeper I’ve seen since Russell
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #56 on: June 03, 2022, 12:08:41 PM »

Potts also highlighting the stupidity of not selecting more in-form CC players on a regular basis.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #57 on: June 03, 2022, 12:16:16 PM »

Foakes has taken to very similar catches diving forward and made it look routine and maybe that’s why we don’t notice so much.

I’m a fan I think he is the best keeper I’ve seen since Russell

They made a point on commentary before the 2nd Williamson catch that he is similar to Russell how he takes the ball very low.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #58 on: June 03, 2022, 02:46:57 PM »

Batting seems much easier after the ball gets to 30-35 overs. Just got to try and dig in.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #59 on: June 03, 2022, 04:25:50 PM »

Yes especially in England. There is still movement but the ball is a bit softer and bowlers get a bit more tired.

But you have to be good enough to survive the moving ball and have the temperament to match.

Don’t want to be negative about the new style reset but I’m not sure we have the quality.

New Zealand are showing us how it’s done today. I think we have Pope out of position and that is a very tough ask indeed. He’s a bit lucky to be picked but is never a number 3 and that is a key position in tests.
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