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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #135 on: June 11, 2022, 11:41:29 AM »

Don't worry, we'll have Moeen Ali soon.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #136 on: June 11, 2022, 03:18:38 PM »

The only plus point I can see here is our batters will be under scoreboard pressure so we can see how they cope with it, especially someone like Pope who is a bit lucky to be in the team.

Root is not always going to get runs, at some point someone else in the top 6 must get a hundred
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #137 on: June 11, 2022, 08:05:21 PM »

Pope is almost a perfect replica of a young Ian Bell. Bell was poor during the 2005 Ashes, but came good in the end!
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« Reply #138 on: June 11, 2022, 08:36:18 PM »

He is similar in style but needs to do a great deal I think to be up there compared to Bell.

It’s a quick outfield and short boundaries he does have a great opportunity to make a telling score this time.

Lees is looking better as he goes on and although Crawley was caught behind again that was a decent ball from Boult.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #139 on: June 11, 2022, 10:56:55 PM »

I think he has Bell's potential but he's by no means the finished article, of course! He has so much to learn.

I haven't really noticed Lees much, which is probably a sign of promise as an England opener... Not setting the world alight, but being quietly effective so far?

Oh wait, he has a high score of 31...
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #140 on: June 12, 2022, 01:02:42 AM »

Pope is almost a perfect replica of a young Ian Bell. Bell was poor during the 2005 Ashes, but came good in the end!

Personally I have never seen the comparison between Bell and Pope.

Bell was five years into his test career before he had a year averaging below 40 (and an average of 37 in the current squad would make you the team's second best batsman.



Pope is 25 games and 5 years into a test career that so far has yielded an average of 28.  If Pope had been around in the same era as Bell he would be no where near the test set up
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« Reply #141 on: June 12, 2022, 01:04:27 AM »

Look at that 2011 average! He was amazing that year.  :o
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #142 on: June 12, 2022, 01:20:11 PM »

The Ian Bell comparisons are stylistic, and are accurate to my eye.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #143 on: June 12, 2022, 04:19:09 PM »

It's really weird how I had absolutely no faith in Bairstow, you just knew he was going to get out.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #144 on: June 12, 2022, 05:29:23 PM »

Is this a breakthrough innings for Pope or easy runs on a pitch with no more danger than Sunday tea with the vicker?
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #145 on: June 12, 2022, 06:40:29 PM »

Well, let's give him the benefit of the doubt.  He was missed a time or twobut it cant be easy coming in in the second over about fouur million runs behind. And he does look to have done a bit of technical work; straighter lines and back and through wrists.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #146 on: June 12, 2022, 07:28:48 PM »

I'd rather he did the thing a batsman should do of making hay on a flat one rather than getting out. Crucially he cashed in after being dropped multiple times
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #147 on: June 12, 2022, 09:13:12 PM »

If this match was in the Sub-continent there would be a lot of criticism of the road like pitch. Let's hope it starts to deteriorate days 4 and 5.

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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #148 on: June 13, 2022, 06:58:22 AM »

It’s not like teams haven’t  been creating chances- some pretty ordinary catching from both sides this test.
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Re: England v New Zealand
« Reply #149 on: June 13, 2022, 07:23:15 AM »

Yes about 8 have gone down it would be much more advanced in the game if they had been taken.

Not much swing thou it used to go round corners at Trent bridge not so much now.

With the lightning outfield and short boundaries it must be the best batting wicket we have now, you would hope there is some turn today out there
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