Topic: England v New Zealand (Read 33841 times)

rickjames · « **Reply #240 on:** June 24, 2022, 10:45:10 AM »

Catching has been awful again

jonny77 · « **Reply #241 on:** June 24, 2022, 12:00:31 PM »

The non-review of Mitchell yesterday proving costly. You'd think with how they've struggled to get him this series they'd have rolled the dice. Still, they haven't really gotten away from us and still in the game.

six and out · « **Reply #242 on:** June 24, 2022, 01:06:00 PM »

Fairplay to Leach for getting that 5 for.

That's a ridiculous delivery from Boult to get Lees!

rickjames · « **Reply #243 on:** June 24, 2022, 01:31:05 PM »

Awful from Crawley.

Manormanic · « **Reply #244 on:** June 24, 2022, 01:34:52 PM »

Yep. Lees had no chance, Pope played a good ball badly but Zac... He looks shot.

jonny77 · « **Reply #245 on:** June 24, 2022, 01:59:53 PM »

This was always gonna happen. Live by the sword and all that...

Jimbo · « **Reply #246 on:** June 24, 2022, 02:11:34 PM »

All well and good if you're in a positive position on a docile pitch but was this really the game to try and smash their way out of trouble?

SD · « **Reply #247 on:** June 24, 2022, 07:07:48 PM »

With the benefit of hindsight, I guess the answer is yes.

It is very early days, but the change in mentality from the negativity under Silverwood to the positive approach now couldn't be any clearer. The test team has finally started playing with the freedom and the clarity that the white ball team has

Jimbo · « **Reply #248 on:** June 24, 2022, 07:15:50 PM »

I wouldn't say Overton or Bairstow tried to smash their way out of it. They put away the bad balls but they were pretty solid in defence as well.

Brilliant innings by both but I don't know if I'd consider it justifies Stokes trying to come down and whack it into the stands early doors.

jonny77 · « **Reply #249 on:** June 24, 2022, 08:03:38 PM »

Not sure why they keep picking this Bairstow fella 😆

Watching it at the time I thought it was a bit crazy to go that hard. Bairstow and Overton played fairly sensible really, just hit the bad ball and had a bit of luck too. It's so difficult to go that hard when it's hooping though, as it was when Stokes was charging. Looks like this is the way they're going tho, so fasten your seatbelts!

SD · « **Reply #250 on:** June 24, 2022, 08:28:34 PM »

Scoring at better than 5 an over in a test match on an afternoon when the ball was moving around and England were 55-6 is fairly extraordinary. What is clear about the mentality is that they will try to put pressure back on the opposition rather than prod around, building pressure on themselves and waiting to be picked off. It won't always work, but I think it is going to make for some great cricket

I always felt with Silverwood that he thought he was going to lose but wanted to drag games out onto the 4th / 5th day to avoid embarrassment. No way could I see this sort of come back under his leadership.

billyb · « **Reply #251 on:** June 24, 2022, 08:35:31 PM »

That young Jonny Bairstow will never make a test cricketer, will he

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #252 on:** June 24, 2022, 08:54:58 PM »

Is this also the right environment to give one another look in for Buttler? Not in place of Foakes who has done great but as a pure batsman and see what he can do under Baz. Scary to think Eng will unleash new way of playing tests - similar to odi team evolution where they make 300/400s for fun, will we see test team making 600s/700s in future? Going by Bairstow's comments, it might not be far off ..

SOULMAN1012 · « **Reply #253 on:** June 24, 2022, 10:21:53 PM »

Quote from: adb club cricketer on June 24, 2022, 08:54:58 PM

Is this also the right environment to give one another look in for Buttler? Not in place of Foakes who has done great but as a pure batsman and see what he can do under Baz. Scary to think Eng will unleash new way of playing tests - similar to odi team evolution where they make 300/400s for fun, will we see test team making 600s/700s in future? Going by Bairstow's comments, it might not be far off ..

No just no butler shouldn�t be anywhere near a test team. Need to find another opener and try Crawley at 3 or in place of him and give Pope a year at 3 to really see. We don�t need another middle order batter be we certainly don�t ever want to replace Foakes.

Just my view of course

adb club cricketer · « **Reply #254 on:** June 24, 2022, 11:21:41 PM »

Quote from: SOULMAN1012 on June 24, 2022, 10:21:53 PM

No just no butler shouldn�t be anywhere near a test team. Need to find another opener and try Crawley at 3 or in place of him and give Pope a year at 3 to really see. We don�t need another middle order batter be we certainly don�t ever want to replace Foakes.

Just my view of course

Can see where you are coming from and quite understandably so, but same could have been said of Bairstow as well until Baz came in and turned everything on its head. Definitely not in place of Foakes, but I get the feeling Butler under Baz will be like another Bairstow evolution. We aren't selectors but if any of current crop doesn't deliver after sufficient chances, Butler may be worth giving one last chance, as a batsman only of course under Baz. And to think that Butler is a better batsman than Bairstow, just never fit in to the traditional/defensive mindset of previous coaches..

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