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Re: eBay Return
« Reply #15 on: March 30, 2023, 06:37:16 PM »

Unfortunate but this is how eBay works! This is exactly I rather use forum to sell or swap my bats or just simply sell them to teammates and friends.
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« Reply #16 on: March 30, 2023, 06:38:16 PM »

A totally gutting situation. Just awful. And very off putting to use eBay ever again!!
Bat number 1 photos clearly show the bat hasn’t been knocked in properly judging by the deep seam marks?
What type of quality ball were they using also? I suspect a mix of poor knocking in and a 5 quid ball has broken both bats. Perhaps the lack of scuff sheet and edge tape is a bit more evidence that the purchaser didn’t really have any passion of protecting his £500 for years ahead. I do hope this ends positively for you. Or at the very least both bats can be serviced for you to enjoy using for years. Let us know how you get on. 🤞
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Re: eBay Return
« Reply #17 on: March 30, 2023, 07:12:23 PM »

Fortunately, despite looking pretty ugly it doesn’t look like either have sustained damage that will drastically shorten their life, but is definitely a frustrating and time consuming situation.

Does mean they’re likely to be worth a lot less for a future sale though.
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« Reply #18 on: March 30, 2023, 07:20:11 PM »

You might be in trouble tbh. Grey imports (i.e those made for sale outside of the EEA but imported) are generally considered counterfeit if resold here.

I have not heard of that before, have they said that officially or where have you got that from?
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« Reply #19 on: March 30, 2023, 07:28:21 PM »

A totally gutting situation. Just awful. And very off putting to use eBay ever again!!
Bat number 1 photos clearly show the bat hasn’t been knocked in properly judging by the deep seam marks?
What type of quality ball were they using also? I suspect a mix of poor knocking in and a 5 quid ball has broken both bats. Perhaps the lack of scuff sheet and edge tape is a bit more evidence that the purchaser didn’t really have any passion of protecting his £500 for years ahead. I do hope this ends positively for you. Or at the very least both bats can be serviced for you to enjoy using for years. Let us know how you get on. 🤞

Or they've bit been manufactured to the highest standards? Not having a pop at GN here, are they actually genuine? No bat even if not knocked in should get damage this severe early doors imo. Although if he was absolutely whacking rocks it's possible I suppose. A scuff sheet wouldn't really stop this either
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« Reply #20 on: March 30, 2023, 07:30:56 PM »

Presumably you've got photos showing the condition they were in when listed? If he's used (and this includes having bats serviced or knocked in) the bats and caused damage then you surely should be able to argue they are not being returned in the same condition and are not eligible for refund?

I have got photos yeah, my main concern is the return reason being "item defective" - it will be hard getting across the entire preparation process over to someone who perhaps doesn't know about cricket or how a cricket bat works. Any bat will crack in the first net if you don't do anything apart from apply an anti-scuff sheet. Getting the point across to eBay will be very difficult. If he chose any other reason I could argue I did my part in supplying the bat the described brand new condition with no faults.
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« Reply #21 on: March 30, 2023, 08:20:40 PM »

EBay is very buyer friendly and wonder if the buyer has played this game before and is confident of a refund so just buys them uses and if they break them just claim they’re defective.
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« Reply #22 on: March 30, 2023, 08:27:07 PM »

EBay is very buyer friendly and wonder if the buyer has played this game before and is confident of a refund so just buys them uses and if they break them just claim they’re defective.

Could be. He started messaging me on one account and then said he will "buy on his other account" - which has 1 feedback score.
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« Reply #23 on: March 30, 2023, 08:42:24 PM »

Could be. He started messaging me on one account and then said he will "buy on his other account" - which has 1 feedback score.
Hope you get it sorted. Who is the buyer? So many dodgy ebayers
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Re: eBay Return
« Reply #24 on: March 30, 2023, 08:53:51 PM »

Are they the Indian Red labelled marketed bats..

Is it just a different colour for different country with the red ones?
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« Reply #25 on: March 30, 2023, 09:04:21 PM »

Unfortunate and obviously they shouldn't be taken back imo if used. I saw a bat recently that someone had knocked in with a metal hammer. Should that be taken back??!

Can you not list on eBay with no returns? I thought you could?

However, that does look some serious damage for new bat and not what you'd expect to see, when of not knocked in. Where did you buy them from? I take it theres no storm damage etc evident? Saw a Kookaburra Kahuna Pro went like this early on, seemed very dry and had storm damage

Nope no storm damage or anything, perfectly good bats. One was bought from an Indian retailer and another one was bought from someone in the UK (who had sourced it from India).

You can list on eBay without accepting returns, but if the buyer puts defective or doesn't work as the return reason the label gets instantly supplied.
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« Reply #26 on: March 30, 2023, 09:40:57 PM »

Hello everyone, I am currently dealing with a situation that isn't ideal at all on eBay. A buyer bought two bats from me exactly two weeks ago and yesterday opened a return on both of them without contacting me first. They have a combined value of £500 and were two of my best/favourite bats. As he stated in the return reason "doesn't work or is defective" eBay automatically offer him two return labels (that I have to pay for) to send both of the bats back without any possible input from my end. The two bats were sold as brand new and not knocked in, with the description stating that this will need to be done before the bat is ready to be used.

With how buyer friendly eBay is I am very worried I am going to get completely stuffed by this. I can (and plan to) dispute the refund once the bats get returned back to me and then they will make a decision on what has to be done but I really am not hopeful. Here are the pictures he has added for the first bat, including this comment in the return reason:

"I’ve had the bat serviced and knocked in, I’ve used the bat once and a huge crack has appeared on the side of the bat. I’ve taken this to a cricket shop and they’ve told me that this is not an authentic limited edition bat, limited edition willow does not crack after one session."

The bat is of course a genuine GN Limited Edition model that was sourced from India. "Limited Edition willow" did make me laugh. Here are two pictures he has added:



The second bat was without a doubt my favourite and I went back and forth between wanting to keep it or not several times, it makes me quite sad to see what he has done to it. In the return comments he added:

"I’ve had the bat serviced and knocked in, I’ve used the bat once and a huge crack has appeared on the side of the bat. I’ve taken this to a cricket shop and they’ve once again told me that cracks like this do not appear on this quickly on gray nicolls bats."

I sent him a message asking for the name of the person or company who serviced the bat, but unsurprisingly did not receive a response. Here is the only clear picture he added showing the damage on this one:



If anyone could share some advice on how I can word my defence I would be very grateful, of course willow is a natural product and these things do happen but it seems extremely suspicious his two are in this condition in less than a fortnight.

Thanks  :)
“Gray-Nics bats don’t crack in the first week of use”. What an absolute joke. I had a hit with David Boon 30 years ago, he had 2 brand new GN bats, threw one to the ground when he edges a ball resulting in a crack just like this. He was angry at him self for playing a  s#$t shot!
There is more at play here, quality of the ball?, temperature of the environment?, quality of the shot selection? Knocking in does not make soft willow immune from any damage.
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Re: eBay Return
« Reply #27 on: March 30, 2023, 10:36:09 PM »

Nope no storm damage or anything, perfectly good bats. One was bought from an Indian retailer and another one was bought from someone in the UK (who had sourced it from India).


So what's their return policy or warranty?
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Re: eBay Return
« Reply #28 on: March 31, 2023, 11:30:55 AM »

I have not heard of that before, have they said that officially or where have you got that from?
That's just the law here in the UK. Biggest case was in 2002 when Tesco got banned by Levi's from selling jeans they'd imported from USA.

https://www.vennershipley.co.uk/insights-events/the-criminalisation-of-grey-goods/
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Re: eBay Return
« Reply #29 on: March 31, 2023, 12:20:29 PM »

I'm having a similar load of nonsense but in reverse from a seller. Basically lied about the state of some bats - good condition to me doesn't mean broken handles!

We'll see what Paypal say, hoping as I'm the buyer they'll find in my favour but totally understand your pain and frustration when dealing with douchebags!
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