Topic: Ashes 2023 (Read 32560 times)

rickjames · « **Reply #255 on:** June 30, 2023, 11:24:59 AM »

How to lose a game in a session...

Manormanic · « **Reply #256 on:** June 30, 2023, 11:46:20 AM »

Stokes and Tongue I can excuse. Duckett, in fairness, probably deserves a bit of sympathy too because the ball was right in his arc and it is his shot. Bairstow was trying to do the right thing but failed in execution.

The other six need to take a long look in the mirror. Crawley run straight past one that he'd predetermined he was coming for, Pope played the worst shot I think I've ever seen a test batsman play, Root needed to use his brain, Brook played the second worst shot I've seen a test batsman play and Robinson and Broad decided indiscriminate slogging was somehow the way out of trouble.

The thing is, Stokes clearly identified last night what needed to be done. Lyon was already out of the game, the batsmen just needed to let the bowlers exhaust themselves and the series was open to them. Why did he not actually tell his team what they needed to do?

ppccopener · « **Reply #257 on:** June 30, 2023, 12:01:39 PM »

I don�t know whether as fans we suck it up when it goes wrong because the aggressive approach is good to watch

Or complain when we see some brainless cricket which it has been.

Said it before but Bairstow scored his runs at 5 and it�s no good with the tail we have. He has proved in the last year or so he can destroy attacks

Jimbo · « **Reply #258 on:** June 30, 2023, 12:33:29 PM »

Love the aggressive approach but tempered with sense. First Test, Root scored his ton by pushing the field back and then hitting gaps.

Why couldn't they have done that this test? Aussies went with the short ball game, let them do it, take the many many singles on offer and run them into the ground trying to bounce you out. Then when they're knackered you can whack them to all parts.

Warneymonster · « **Reply #259 on:** June 30, 2023, 01:13:10 PM »

how to grab defeat from the jaws of victory!

somehow we have gifted these ashes (barring a huge comeback) by over aggression and inability to adapt. that collapse was embarrassing to watch, a complete lack of brains from all of the batters against the most obvious tactics.

its already been said here, but with lyon off the pitch this should have been a big first innings lead against a part time spinner and 4 seamers tiring themselves out with bumpers.

Manormanic · « **Reply #260 on:** June 30, 2023, 01:20:50 PM »

Quote from: ppccopener on June 30, 2023, 12:01:39 PM

Said it before but Bairstow scored his runs at 5 and it�s no good with the tail we have. He has proved in the last year or so he can destroy attacks

To be fair he did have some good times at seven. Though its different when you have Woakes and Ali (when he fancied himself a bat) at eight and nine!

Manormanic · « **Reply #261 on:** June 30, 2023, 01:22:41 PM »

Quote from: Warneymonster on June 30, 2023, 01:13:10 PM

its already been said here, but with lyon off the pitch this should have been a big first innings lead against a part time spinner and 4 seamers tiring themselves out with bumpers.

Even if the result had not been a huge lead (I think 450 was probably the ceiling for the pitch/conditions/long tail) surely the attacking option would have been to put another 12 overs each into the three main quicks legs. Attacking doesn't have to mean trying to hit improbably sixes a la Pope and Brook!

ppccopener · « **Reply #262 on:** June 30, 2023, 03:37:19 PM »

Quote from: Manormanic on June 30, 2023, 01:20:50 PM

To be fair he did have some good times at seven. Though its different when you have Woakes and Ali (when he fancied himself a bat) at eight and nine!

He did but we no longer have those useful batsmen in the team. The tail will not hang around if the top order are intent or clattering everything in sight

Buzz · « **Reply #263 on:** June 30, 2023, 03:53:54 PM »

This is going to be Jimmy's last series. I think he may be done.

ppccopener · « **Reply #264 on:** June 30, 2023, 04:02:47 PM »

There not much in the wickets these last two games it�s been so dry.

Headingley if overcast might be his best chance. I think we should of played a spinner thou in this game. If not Rehan someone like Dawson who can hold a bat too. Our tail is too long

Real Munson · « **Reply #265 on:** June 30, 2023, 04:05:15 PM »

The Lords deck is doing a bit more now as it seems to have sped up a bit - however we have had two pretty turgid wickets so far, which surely doesn't help our bowling nor our batting. Not sure why it's been like that, had great weather for preparing wickets.

Thor Odin�s Son · « **Reply #266 on:** June 30, 2023, 04:58:28 PM »

I missed most of days 2/3(after Smith�s century) but just caught the highlights. I�ve never seen anything more ridiculous than England�s attempted home run derby impression�
After Lyon�a calf when bye bye, it was pretty much the time to grind the pace battery into dust.
Hazlewood and Starc, regardless of the speed gun, look short of their best. But for whatever reason England�s batsmen, whom aren�t exactly good against the bumper barrage, decided to help Australia out.
We�ll take it.
As I said on day 1, a target of 450 will be enough for Australia - so at present we are in a good position.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #267 on:** June 30, 2023, 06:19:01 PM »

"I said that, but now I'm saying this."

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #268 on:** June 30, 2023, 06:22:36 PM »

Duckett showed some class when he said he never liked to see an opponent to get an injury.

Bats_Entertainment · « **Reply #269 on:** June 30, 2023, 06:35:16 PM »

Dare I say that Brook played the shot of a man who had prepared for this series by sitting on benches in the IPL?

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