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England v india
« on: January 21, 2024, 09:56:50 AM »
Just read news Brook returning home due to personal reasons
Out of whole tour

A shame was looking forward to watching him
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Re: England v india
« Reply #1 on: January 21, 2024, 10:03:47 AM »
It is a shame but perhaps now means JB will play as a batter with Foakes keeping wicket so another chance for us to format the team with a good batsman and the best keeper. I think myself Bairstow keeping and batting just does not work.
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« Reply #2 on: January 21, 2024, 10:08:50 AM »
Yeah agree with that
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Re: England v india
« Reply #3 on: January 21, 2024, 10:35:56 AM »
ECB now clarified their statement to say he may join the tour later.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #4 on: January 21, 2024, 10:36:22 AM »
Dan Lawrence in. As above though this surely means we see Bairstow at 5 and Foakes with the gloves.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2024, 11:15:26 AM »
Kohli is out of the first two tests for personal reasons.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2024, 08:58:27 AM »
Fuckadoodledoo! Have you seen the attack we've picked for the first test!  It's brave, but it could be carnage - 2 rookie spinners and our most fragile seamer.

I like the intent, but i might have been tempted to have root as the 3rd spinner and select another seamer - mind you, this is the same approach the Aussies went with.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2024, 11:06:17 AM »
Can't say it's not ballsy, that has been the theme with Stokes+McCullum. Lot of pressure on someone as inexperienced as Hartley trying to replicate the impact of Axar Patel.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2024, 12:52:37 PM »
Seems a wierd approach.
If it is an absolute bunsen then you only need 2 spinners

Will be interesting to see what India do, they will likely pick 3 spinners and 2 seeamers, but Ashwin and Jadaja can both bat. We don't have that.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2024, 02:07:02 PM »
Tom Hartley and Rehan Ahmed will be expected to play as bowling all rounders but it is their bowling rather than their batting which looks a bit thin on the ground. Unless Stokes can bowl a decent allocation of overs - which has to be very unlikely - the attack does seem one bowler short 
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Re: England v india
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2024, 03:38:35 PM »
Rumour has it... Bairstow is the second seamer...

I hope he is wrong but Derek Pringle's 'twirl' post on X is quite punchy:

"Whatever the collective noun for spinners (a twirl maybe) England are stretching it by playing 3  in the 1st Test v India. If the pitch turns big you need fewer bowlers not more. This smacks of Eng not having a clue who their best spinners are & playing  them all as a consequence."
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Re: England v india
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2024, 05:55:26 PM »
daft thing is, the conditions in India lend themselves to Joe Root being a useful fifth bowler, which surely should have mitigated against Ahmed playing (especially as Ollie Robinson has looked more threatening as a test spinner than he did!)
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Re: England v india
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2024, 06:19:10 PM »
Stokes has already said he is not bowling or very little and that might explain why Dan Lawrence has been called up instead of Jennings. Lawrence could well play a part in the series.

I think India will get after our spinners early so that could make things mighty difficult to have any control on the game.

It’s going to be incredibly hard to get a result I can only remember 2012 when KP was outstanding to get us a win and 1984/5 when Gowers side won out there.

2012 we had Swann and Panesar bowling well together IIRC.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2024, 07:42:39 AM »
We look a spinner light 😆
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Re: England v india
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2024, 08:59:59 AM »
Be interesting to see how Hartley goes with the ball, Axar has been pretty effective but he is also arguably the best at what he does in the world.
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