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Re: England v india
« Reply #90 on: February 22, 2024, 10:31:48 AM »

interesting deck for the 4th test, looks like india are playing their 12th man
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Re: England v india
« Reply #91 on: February 22, 2024, 12:02:15 PM »

Got to feel for Dan Lawrence. Clearly YJB is liked a lot by Stokes and McCullum to have kept his spot. Also, I suppose Joe Root has retained his place thanks to his bowling.
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« Reply #92 on: February 22, 2024, 12:17:30 PM »

I think Joe Root has retained his place because he's Joe Root and still the best batter we've got. Maybe not on form, but form is temporary. There are certain players you can drop and Bairstow is lucky, but there's no way they'd drop Root just because he's out of form.
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« Reply #93 on: February 22, 2024, 02:19:17 PM »

The press are doing what they always do. What did they say before the tour? We will struggle against a very strong team in home conditions. Well, guess what!! TBH the surprise was winning the first one. Plus losing the toss in India has a massive bearing on the game.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #94 on: February 22, 2024, 03:58:45 PM »

Of all the CBF hot takes I didn't expect to see 'Root's only in cos he bowls'!

I quite liked the shout going round some parts of picking Lawrence for Rehan on the grounds that if the track's as bad as it looks we won't need the extra bowler, but it would have been quite the gamble.

Pitch looks... interesting. If the two sides play as differently as they look, could we see a lot of turning down singles when two different handed players are batting together? India could have a lot more of a left-right split than England. Would love to see some good old village cricket style 'I'll take this end, you take that end' at test level :D
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Re: England v india
« Reply #95 on: February 23, 2024, 09:39:22 AM »

Looks like Ravi Shastri's comment has sparked something in Root. Good to see him playing his natural game rather than the scoop nonsense. Those tactics can work on fast pitches like in Aus/NZ/SA but definitely not on the sub continent.
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« Reply #96 on: February 23, 2024, 09:41:35 AM »

Looks like Ravi Shastri's comment has sparked something in Root. Good to see him playing his natural game rather than the scoop nonsense. Those tactics can work on fast pitches like in Aus/NZ/SA but definitely not on the sub continent.

He better get some wickets now, otherwise he'll only be keeping his place because of his batting! 😆
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Re: England v india
« Reply #97 on: February 23, 2024, 09:43:29 AM »

Looks like Ravi Shastri's comment has sparked something in Root. Good to see him playing his natural game rather than the scoop nonsense. Those tactics can work on fast pitches like in Aus/NZ/SA but definitely not on the sub continent.
Been no reverse sweeps or hits from England. I presume they don’t feel the pitch is conducive to it.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #98 on: February 23, 2024, 10:37:12 AM »

Joe Root is so good
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Re: England v india
« Reply #99 on: February 23, 2024, 11:16:24 AM »

Joe Root is so good
It’s a good job @mo_town isn’t a selector!
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« Reply #100 on: February 23, 2024, 11:22:44 AM »

Feels like a sensible next step for this England team, let people play the way that best suits their game and balances the side. Root and Foakes are not guys who naturally go out and whack it just as Duckett and Crawley are not openers who see off 100 balls and take the shine off.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #101 on: February 23, 2024, 11:23:31 AM »

Of all the CBF hot takes I didn't expect to see 'Root's only in cos he bowls'!

I quite liked the shout going round some parts of picking Lawrence for Rehan on the grounds that if the track's as bad as it looks we won't need the extra bowler, but it would have been quite the gamble.


I seem to remember large swathes of CBF taking much convincing that Dan Lawrence wasn't actually a bowler. (He had taken a few wickets for England Lions with his occasional off-spin.)

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Re: England v india
« Reply #102 on: February 23, 2024, 11:26:23 AM »

Feels like a sensible next step for this England team, let people play the way that best suits their game and balances the side. Root and Foakes are not guys who naturally go out and whack it just as Duckett and Crawley are not openers who see off 100 balls and take the shine off.
They’ve pretty much alway done it haven’t they? I can ever remember Foakes getting out playing overly aggressively. Root has done a couple of times but I’m not sure that’s would be under direct instructions, maybe more just getting carried away with the vibes 😁
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Re: England v india
« Reply #103 on: February 23, 2024, 12:11:13 PM »

I reckon Stokes wants them to be positive, but sometimes that doesn't mean whacking it. If Root bats how he generally always has, which isn't slow anyway, others can play their more attacking style and it would actually work really well.
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Re: England v india
« Reply #104 on: February 23, 2024, 01:11:57 PM »

I do think with Root people fail to appreciate the impact that bowling so many overs will have had on him over the course of this series.  He hasn't been at his best (nor have Bairstow and Foakes before this game to be fair, and Stokes has ended upgoing from  Brigadier Block to Sergeant Slog in every innings) but there are different types of out of form.
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