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peplow

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Re: Joda Sports?
« Reply #30 on: October 27, 2010, 11:25:15 PM »

woodworm had no great idea, nothing to set them apart!
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« Reply #31 on: October 27, 2010, 11:28:05 PM »

there about 10 mins from my house, might pop in for an nosey, and give you guys some feedback
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« Reply #32 on: October 27, 2010, 11:33:20 PM »

Woodworm are a case study for all manufacturers, within 2/3 years they established a large market share. Although for various reasons lost it.

Joe is now setting a clothing and sportswear brand up calked Tekkers.
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« Reply #33 on: October 27, 2010, 11:38:03 PM »

Woodworm are a case study for all manufacturers, within 2/3 years they established a large market share. Although for various reasons lost it.

Joe is now setting a clothing and sportswear brand up calked Tekkers.
Woodworm are a case study for all manufacturers, within 2/3 years they established a large market share. Although for various reasons lost it.

Joe is now setting a clothing and sportswear brand up calked Tekkers.

Do we know if Tekkers will pay there suppliers ?
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Re: Joda Sports?
« Reply #34 on: October 28, 2010, 12:11:22 AM »

stoke what bout you?
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« Reply #35 on: October 28, 2010, 04:35:52 AM »

Woodworm are a case study for all manufacturers, within 2/3 years they established a large market share. Although for various reasons lost it.

Joe is now setting a clothing and sportswear brand up calked Tekkers.

Does that example not worry you though? At one point Woodworm was being used by the two highest profile players to enormous success. An Ashes win for example. I can only imagine a huge number of bats were sold off the back of that, yet within a couple of  years they were all but gone. Your company seems to be trying the same idea of sponsoring high profile players, and I sincerely hope your risk and endeavour pay off.
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« Reply #36 on: October 28, 2010, 07:07:26 AM »

I agree that the two companies are starting the same, a new brand with a revolutionary new bat shape. However Woodworm got lucky as they were pre IPL and even though they paid the highest price seen to sponsor Flintoff and Pietersen it was not as much as the going rate now, plus the sponsored players came very good in the highest profile series we have seen in modern times. Woodworm's market share was huge and they were doing very well. They then pressed ahead with expansion beyond their limitations including a massively expensive move into golf. The servicing of the debt owed became bigger than their profits and led to a firesale which lowered their value and sent them down in a vicious cycle.

Their is not as much profit in brand ownership as some might think, Adidas and Nike are not in the market for money from cricket kit, they are merely seeking to enhance their image and also piggyback the surge in wealth in India. I have been told directly that Adidas could sponsor every member of the England team for less than one high profile football player, they would get much better publicity from it but will not make more money from it.

That is why I think it will be very hard for the middle size cricket only brands to survive an onslaught from multi billion pound companies looking to increase their brand awareness.
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« Reply #37 on: October 28, 2010, 07:15:19 AM »

Same across different Businesses big boys can simply out muscle others as of you look at supermarkets prices are different dependent on if there is another super Market near (proven) plus someone like Morrisons makes 90% of money off food where Tesco make 10% of money off food so different priorities just an example
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« Reply #38 on: October 28, 2010, 07:30:34 AM »

Right idea, Bad example roco, worked at Morrisons head office for 2 years. Supermarkets don't price depending on competitors being near to them - the systems couldn't handle it and it mucks up the advertising. They wouldn't price because Joe bloggs down the road is doing sausages cheaper, has to be big enough to impact their core business.
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« Reply #39 on: October 28, 2010, 07:36:18 AM »

Remember a study 3 years ago and was a £5 difference in a trolley of shopping may have been a coincidence due to area but ended up dearer when competitors were not close and worked around that myself and remember the panic when a supermarket was 1p cheaper on something and entire company prices were changed instantly
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Re: Joda Sports?
« Reply #40 on: October 28, 2010, 07:48:59 AM »

I think the Woodworm/Mongoose comparison is slightly unfair - I think Mongoose offer a more innovative product than Woodworm and as it stands are only a cricket brand. As Mike has alluded to, part of Woodworms problem was their expansion in to golf.
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Re: Joda Sports?
« Reply #41 on: October 28, 2010, 07:52:40 AM »

I think Woodworm would have been the commercial inspiration, came from nowhere with a brand to prominence swiftly.
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« Reply #42 on: October 28, 2010, 07:57:41 AM »

would've been coincidence. Most supermarket product systems have enough problems coping with 100k+ products pricing, let along trying to tweak it by several hundred stores. Add in trying to collect your nearest 4 competitor stores prices for 100k+ products and couldn't hope to do it properly within a week (pricing changes weekly).
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Re: Joda Sports?
« Reply #43 on: October 28, 2010, 08:59:10 AM »

for the record the joda bats are uk made not imported.
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Re: Joda Sports?
« Reply #44 on: October 28, 2010, 01:30:10 PM »

Woodworm were pretty popular with the kids if i remember rightly, probably because of the Ashes 2005 and KP and FF's exposure for them.

Was in a cricket shop in the summer and had a mum and kid come in asking for "one of those pietersen bats" so i guess Adidas recognised his potential to sell to the youth market when signing him up
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