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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: Cover_Drive on May 25, 2011, 02:25:08 PM
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HI Guys,
I got my mate to make a video of my batting, here it is;
I'm still working on my game, can you tell me where I am going wrong and what I should do so my battting gets better?
Thanks for your time!
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i would say wait a little longer and keep that back foot still. most of the shots you play you seem to be reaching for the ball instead of letting it come to you. your then stretched which causes your back foot to wonder and flick to leg and for you to slice the ball instead of a nice full blade of the bat making contact. maybe try not to hit it so hard. rely on your timing. seem to get hold of them pretty well tho. slight tinker, not too much to worry about
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I agree with johners, try and let the ball come to you as when your back leg leaves the ground you lose your base and it's likely you won't be balanced when you play the shot.
Out of interest what speed was the machine on?
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i think you need another bat........ ;)
on a serious note try and stop walking around at the crease and keep still and balanced
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hello.
Have you spent some time looking at your batting on the video?
what do you think about your own video? Sometimes the best help we can have is by looking at ourselves and figuring out the problems.
on a serious note try and stop walking around at the crease and keep still and balanced
this is really good advice.
Also try a bowling machine session where you have to play other shots rather than off side half vollies.
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no need to play at that ultra-wide rubbish :-)
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Cheers johners I will keep that in my mind when I go to bat next time.
Ricky, around 70 mph I think.
Canners, before having this shuffle I had still stance but with that I would always lose my balance and back foot would always come off ground, make sense ?:(
Buzz, the problems I can see in my batting after watching the video is back foot as you guys said, second I'm reaching out on off side and playing away from my body, and lastly most important balance.
I'm not sure how to work in this stuff :( I mean balance issue.
Buzz, I have ordered a sidearm and from next week hopefully me and my mate we will be using that.
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balance wise you could introduce a trigger movement to get the feet moving and feel balanced and ready but tbh i would just work on keeping that back foot still and waiting for the ball. once you do that the balance will sort itself out
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Ricky, around 70 mph I think.
I'm not sure how to work in this stuff :( I mean balance issue.
Buzz, I have ordered a sidearm and from next week hopefully me and my mate we will be using that.
Firstly that (and I mean this in a friendly way) that is closer to 50 than 70 mph (either than or I face 80mph bowlers every week)
Realistically to work on your balance
1. cut out the shuffle, and stay still this will keep you body stiller and it will be easy to play your shots. (se around 40 second and 1min when you forget to shuffle and play a better shot
2. use the bowling machine session more productively - get the feeder to work over your off stump, rather than feeding you rubbish which you should leave in a game
3. lead more with your head - because of the poor bowling machine feeding you are planting your front foot in the same place every ball, thus sometimes when the ball is in the right place you hit a good shot and when it is not you play away from your body.
4. you don't need to try to smash every ball.
Your stance and grip look good, your head is mainly still which is also good - so the basics are in place. I think you just need more help from the guy feeding you the ball and to be mentally stronger to play the ball on its merits.
hope that helps.
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You need to keep your back leg planted when your on the front foot. This will help with your stability because at the moment your playing shots whilst unbalanced, causing you to mis-hit.
You have your wrists very low, try and raise them up a bit so it'll force your elbows to create a diamond shape. This allows you to keep the ball on the ground.
Lastly, your playing all your shots outside in, with your wrists away from your body. It means your playing the wrong line of the ball and you'll have trouble playing wide outside off and inswing deliveries. This problem is further enhanced because you seem to be falling to the off-side as your playing your drives. You need to keep your wrists and elbow tucked in. With head still and level to the bowler. Front foot out to the ball, head in-line and over your front foot. Back foot anchored on the ground and back leg straightened. Wrists, elbows, head, front foot, back foot, all in line with each other. At the moment it's all over the place.
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For balance/getting feet to pitch of the ball, I do this.
Stand in your batting stance as if you are waiting for a bowler to bowl. Get someone else to drop the ball while standing next to you (at a distance) and wait for the ball to bounce once, then drive. This will help you as you will get your foot to the pitch of the ball, which will mean you are not reaching and will help your balance.
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balance wise you could introduce a trigger movement
I have been watching many videos of coaches online and they suggest trigger movement as well. Sp I was trying that, if you see the last minute I was trying to use that or I am not using it ?
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Hi Cover Drive.
I agree with most of what has been said but i think there might be an easier solution to some of the issues.
1.You are trying to hit balls that are wide of off stump through c0ver/extra cover instead of square of the wicket. if you hit these wider balls squarer you will be forced to wait longer and play the ball later solving your problem of playing inside out. Trying to watch where the ball bounces and pointing this out really makes playing late much easier.
2.It seems as if you are falling over to the off side before the ball has been delivered and therefore your back leg is struggling to stay still when driving. i would agree with Buzz that you need to be still at delivery but it seems as if you do have a bit of a forward press and i would then rather suggest that you do this a lot earlier before delivery in order to be in a more balanced state when playing the ball.
You have good hands and wrists and therefore use them! :D I hope this helps, there is no reason to change your technique or do things that are uncomfortable for you. at the end of the day you have to feel natural and relaxed at the crease and identify your scoring areas off certain deliveries.
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Firstly that (and I mean this in a friendly way) that is closer to 50 than 70 mph (either than or I face 80mph bowlers every week)
Realistically to work on your balance
1. cut out the shuffle, and stay still this will keep you body stiller and it will be easy to play your shots. (se around 40 second and 1min when you forget to shuffle and play a better shot
2. use the bowling machine session more productively - get the feeder to work over your off stump, rather than feeding you rubbish which you should leave in a game
3. lead more with your head - because of the poor bowling machine feeding you are planting your front foot in the same place every ball, thus sometimes when the ball is in the right place you hit a good shot and when it is not you play away from your body.
4. you don't need to try to smash every ball.
Your stance and grip look good, your head is mainly still which is also good - so the basics are in place. I think you just need more help from the guy feeding you the ball and to be mentally stronger to play the ball on its merits.
hope that helps.
No lies mate all of my mates were batting from 66 mph to 73 mph mark. no lies promise!
1. I'll tell you how I got into this, I first had firm stance and everything. But guys who are better batsman at my club brought me into shuffle before that I'd be firm and I wasn't used to shuffle but I started using it. With bowling machine I struggle with my stance but in proper nets where a bowler is bowling I move my back foot across to leg stump when the bowler is about to release the ball (when it is on top).
However, when I do shadow batting at home with three balls placed in front of me I sometime play without shuffle and my balance is a lot better for some reason.
2. It was those guys bowling at me, will tell them to be more productive next time around.
3. So I'm not pitching my front foot on proper length? I mean its not being pitched properly?
4. Absolutely my temperament needs to be improved.
So the list to work on so far is;
- Cut out shuffle for better balance.
- Trigger movement
- Let the ball come and then play.
ANything else to that list?
At last I want to thank all of you for your time and advice it certainly helps me alot let it come :D
Cheers
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You need to keep your back leg planted when your on the front foot. This will help with your stability because at the moment your playing shots whilst unbalanced, causing you to mis-hit.
You have your wrists very low, try and raise them up a bit so it'll force your elbows to create a diamond shape. This allows you to keep the ball on the ground.
Lastly, your playing all your shots outside in, with your wrists away from your body. It means your playing the wrong line of the ball and you'll have trouble playing wide outside off and inswing deliveries. This problem is further enhanced because you seem to be falling to the off-side as your playing your drives. You need to keep your wrists and elbow tucked in. With head still and level to the bowler. Front foot out to the ball, head in-line and over your front foot. Back foot anchored on the ground and back leg straightened. Wrists, elbows, head, front foot, back foot, all in line with each other. At the moment it's all over the place.
So in order to have higher wrist should I introduce trigger movement and high backlift would that help ?
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For balance/getting feet to pitch of the ball, I do this.
Stand in your batting stance as if you are waiting for a bowler to bowl. Get someone else to drop the ball while standing next to you (at a distance) and wait for the ball to bounce once, then drive. This will help you as you will get your foot to the pitch of the ball, which will mean you are not reaching and will help your balance.
Got it! When I'm alone at home what I do is tuck the ball under my chin and move my head forward drop the ball and after a bounce play the stroke off front foot, hope that made some sense :S
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Hi Cover Drive.
I agree with most of what has been said but i think there might be an easier solution to some of the issues.
1.You are trying to hit balls that are wide of off stump through c0ver/extra cover instead of square of the wicket. if you hit these wider balls squarer you will be forced to wait longer and play the ball later solving your problem of playing inside out. Trying to watch where the ball bounces and pointing this out really makes playing late much easier.
2.It seems as if you are falling over to the off side before the ball has been delivered and therefore your back leg is struggling to stay still when driving. i would agree with Buzz that you need to be still at delivery but it seems as if you do have a bit of a forward press and i would then rather suggest that you do this a lot earlier before delivery in order to be in a more balanced state when playing the ball.
You have good hands and wrists and therefore use them! :D I hope this helps, there is no reason to change your technique or do things that are uncomfortable for you. at the end of the day you have to feel natural and relaxed at the crease and identify your scoring areas off certain deliveries.
Hi Cys1,
Hope you're well mate!
1. Sounds very good advice indeed. Thanks for this I will work on that as well.
2. With real bowler my shuffle is that the bowler is about ot deliever the ball and his arm is high in the air I move my back leg across to middle stump and then when the ball itches I try to get my front foot in pitch of the ball and then play from there. Is that okay or I should cut the shuffle all together ?
Thanks a lot mate! I appreciate it!
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trigger movements are to get you into a good position
i wouldnt recommend them myself, they got me into alot of trouble last season
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I'm well thanks mate!
that's still a bit too late mate. you need to be done with your shuffle/trigger before the bowler reaches his delivery stride. this will allow your head to be still and prevent you from falling over to the off side during the release of the delivery. triggers are meant to allign yourself better with the delivery. it therefore means that doing it earlier will give you that result but without causing other problems. once the trigger is done you can then shift your weight onto the front foot facing straight down the wicket, this will allow you to lead with the head rather than the hands. getting onto the back foot won't be an issue because you can push off the front foot to get back a lot quicker than simply trying to move your back leg. try it, you'll feel it!!
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Cheers mate, I have nets tomorrow and I will implement whatever is said above.
I will shuffle before the bowler gets in his delivery stride
Thanks!
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Surely your "shuffle" is a trigger movement no? If this is causing you balance problems then a trigger will too.
As Canners said (words originally from Buzz I believe ;) ) a trigger is to get you in position to play a shot so there doesn't appear to be a need for one here.
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Buzz may have mentioned it before ;)
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It crops up a fair bit in Buzz's Batting Bible, very jealous of your one-to-one sessions I am aha
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Surely your "shuffle" is a trigger movement no? If this is causing you balance problems then a trigger will too.
As Canners said (words originally from Buzz I believe ;) ) a trigger is to get you in position to play a shot so there doesn't appear to be a need for one here.
You guys are both correct! Most of the time a trigger is not needed.
one crucial part of coaching however is to first work with what exists and perhaps tweek this a bit before changing an existing set up which could prove a lot more disruptive, especially just before or during a season. think about this from a players point of view and i'm sure you'll appreciate how difficult it is to embrace something completely new compared to something you are familiar with.
I am by no means saying that the trigger is the best way but it might be an easier and more comfortable first attempt at a solution to Cover Drive's predicament. ;)
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A new bat would probably make the difference.
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i'm now even more baffled as to why you spend so much on bats
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But surely a trigger isn't changing anything at all it's just giving the "shuffle" a different name!
I understand it from CD's perspective, there's a video of me in the youtube thread with an open stance and a trigger where i basically take a step down the pitch.
I then closed off my stance a bit and have nearly got rid of the trigger and for the first net it felt really weird not doing the trigger but only for one net then it was pretty much normal :)
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Try to get the person feeding the machine to keep the ball in a constant spot. You still need to move your feet and watch the ball.
That is one of the better bowling machine net i have seen in a while though. Didn't have a wally feeding the balls and changing every delivery.
Always love the old school shouts of ''Shabash!!''
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That is one of the better bowling machine net i have seen in a while though. Didn't have a wally feeding the balls and changing every delivery.
What, like the wallys who bowl variations at you in matches?
Predictable balls in the nets are fine for ironing out an aspect of a particular shot, but if all you ever face is off stump half volleys, you may as well not bother. If there is no variation, how on earth can you prepare for a match?
CD, in the nicest possible way; less money on bats, more money on coaching.
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i'm now even more baffled as to why you spend so much on bats
im with you on this mate
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Try and hit towards the machine mate and tell your mate to arrange the machine so as to make the balls come into you
rather than move out :)
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I think that sometimes we can over complicate things. Play in the v with a full face. You do fall over and do play away from your body. I would leave the wider balls. I think you need to pick up the bat slightly higher with the bowlers arm. Get your grip stance and backlift correct and you're nearly there. The majority of faults lie in one of these three.
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Didn't see many cover drives lol.
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I think that sometimes we can over complicate things. Play in the v with a full face. You do fall over and do play away from your body. I would leave the wider balls. I think you need to pick up the bat slightly higher with the bowlers arm. Get your grip stance and backlift correct and you're nearly there. The majority of faults lie in one of these three.
I didn't quite get what youre saying regarding grip stance.
Regarding back lift you are saying it should be high ?
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have you had a coach ever? not sure that working your kinks out on a machine is the best way to go about it. i'd contact geoffery crosse for private coaching lessons. he was an assistant coach/analyst with team canada for a few years. he does private sessions. They will be well worth it for you. i dont have his contact info - but im sure if you ask around you will be able to get it.
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But surely a trigger isn't changing anything at all it's just giving the "shuffle" a different name!
I understand it from CD's perspective, there's a video of me in the youtube thread with an open stance and a trigger where i basically take a step down the pitch.
I then closed off my stance a bit and have nearly got rid of the trigger and for the first net it felt really weird not doing the trigger but only for one net then it was pretty much normal :)
yip, it's the same thing. his problem was never the fact that he had a trigger, it was the his balance. michael vaughn, ricky ponting, jacques kallis, ab de villiers, all these guys have triggers and don't have many issues with balance. it is however how you execute the trigger that matters most. he could have the same problem with balance without a trigger as well. i am sure that Buzz would agree with me when i say that often, from a coaching perspective, more than one solution to a specific problem can be found and that identifying the solution that is more suitable to the player and would be integrated more easily is often the best way to go. i am simply suggesting that doing something that he might feel more comfortable with might yield quicker results as opposed to something completely different.
Either way, the forum has done it's job, it has provided CD with a number of possible solutions to his issues and it's up to him now to decide how to implement these. ;)
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coverdrive i think you need to sell some of those lovely bats now......
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As I am a batting coach trigger movement are not recommended for everyone but do work for some. But as a whole the recommendation is to remain still and eyes level and good head position while at the crease and not moving till the ball leaves the bowlers hand,this does work for a majority of players. Trigger movements do work for some in helping with crease organisation and has worked wonders for Simon Katich, Paul Collingwood etc but can create an awful mess for some.
If a batsman is falling a trigger movement can make the problem worse if balance is not corrected first. Elbows need to bought into the body more and leading with the head should be introduced but this is easier said than done as when a player is under pressure in a match scenario bad habits reappear. So all of this takes time and needs to embedded into the technique as a natural and first reaction. Hand position will also help by the arc of the swing being bought into line with the body but this does go hand in hand with the position of the elbows.
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Hi john. Agreed. hence the suggestion to do it before the bowlers delivery stride in order to eliminate head and feet movement at the release of delivery. this will then also give him time to lead with the head by pushing slightly forward straight down the wicket preventing the head from falling over to the off side. under pressure he will likely revert back to a trigger and therefore i suggested that he keeps it but just do it a bit earlier. do you not think that this would be a reasonable first option before cutting out the trigger completely?
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If I was you I would book an hour with a coach, he'll give you some drills to work on in your own time and the improvement will be noticeable! I had a few issues much like yours regarding my balance and spent an hour with an ECB level 3 coach the other day. My confidence returned, I am standing up straighter, I'm more balanced and I am hitting the ball harder as a result of everything being in the right positon at the start and my head leading all my front foot shots.
Will be the best few quid you can spend.....most of the advice on here does seem to mirror what I was told but nothing beats a practical demonstration!
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Hi john. Agreed. hence the suggestion to do it before the bowlers delivery stride in order to eliminate head and feet movement at the release of delivery. this will then also give him time to lead with the head by pushing slightly forward straight down the wicket preventing the head from falling over to the off side. under pressure he will likely revert back to a trigger and therefore i suggested that he keeps it but just do it a bit earlier. do you not think that this would be a reasonable first option before cutting out the trigger completely?
No personally I don't - I think under pressure he forgets to trigger - if you look at the video when there are two or three balls bowled in quick sucession he forgets to move.
When you are playing at a mid to low level, staying still is the best possible thing you can do - it will give you less to think about or to distract you from watching the ball and playing each ball on its merits.
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If I was you I would book an hour with a coach, he'll give you some drills to work on in your own time and the improvement will be noticeable! I had a few issues much like yours regarding my balance and spent an hour with an ECB level 3 coach the other day. My confidence returned, I am standing up straighter, I'm more balanced and I am hitting the ball harder as a result of everything being in the right positon at the start and my head leading all my front foot shots.
Will be the best few quid you can spend.....most of the advice on here does seem to mirror what I was told but nothing beats a practical demonstration!
Totally agreed, it took me 5 years to listen to the advice of the L3 coach who I worked with - but he was right all along
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No personally I don't - I think under pressure he forgets to trigger - if you look at the video when there are two or three balls bowled in quick sucession he forgets to move.
When you are playing at a mid to low level, staying still is the best possible thing you can do - it will give you less to think about or to distract you from watching the ball and playing each ball on its merits.
You do have a point there! triggers do become very handy when you are facing very quick bowling though.
most cricketers do not watch the ball properly and move too early before they have identified the proper line and length.
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most cricketers do not watch the ball properly and move too early before they have identified the proper line and length.
Yes - and then having committed to the shot they "drop" their head as the ball pitches so it looks like their head is over the ball, but actually it is looking at the toe of the bat and not the ball at all. This is one of the most common cause of edging to slip and being bowled through the gate in lower level cricket.
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In fact, most first class players don't watch the ball properly as well. they pick up line and length and then let the hands and feet take over without watching the ball onto the bat. there's probably a reason why most of the great batsmen are so focused on really watching the ball out of the hand of the bowler. these are the guys who have that "extra time" to play. they are simply able to pick up line and length quicker because they are making a conscious effort to watch every ball.
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jonpinson
I think you will find bowling machines are there for the use of predictable bowling and as you stated to 'iron' out weak shots, not to play different strokes every shot. For less predictable bowling, have a net with people bowling as variations will be rife.
Unlike facing bowlers in the a net, the bowling machine is alot more difficult to face with variation of length and speed as there is not a bowlers arm to follow.
A bowling machine is not a toy and can be a dangerous thing and should be kept at a continuous length and speed.
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To a skilled user it can be manipulated to randomise line and length
It not something I advertise but I have 4 buckets the last 2 are not shot grooving but conformation of what I have learnt using the first 2
It the way I train a bowling machine is a important tool but without the right instruction it worthless
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No personally I don't - I think under pressure he forgets to trigger - if you look at the video when there are two or three balls bowled in quick sucession he forgets to move.
When you are playing at a mid to low level, staying still is the best possible thing you can do - it will give you less to think about or to distract you from watching the ball and playing each ball on its merits.
Buzz your spot on!!!!
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This is how I do it and not saying it is right.
1. Bowling machines are great for practicing a shot or two not ironing out problems
2. Keep still, eyes level, dont move till the ball leaves the bowlers hand.
3. Watch the ball not the area and I mean the seam or gold writing of the new ball.
4. Lead with the head the feet will naturally follow, head is the beacon of balance.
5. Backlift over off or worst case first slip
6. Hands held close to the hips or just the above cricket box.
7. Do not let your elbows get to far away from your body it will allow you to fall, If you do not believe me stand up and move your both elbows away your body at the speed of a cricket shot, what happens to your head???
8. does not matter what shot it is play the ball in front of your eyes.
Just a few things I use not saying the above is right.
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Thanks a ton guys I appreciate it.
I have read over this thread quite a few times and I will implement things advised by you guys and let you know how it goes
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where is video ?, I can't see it anywhere.
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Here you go
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHF138B8CXw (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jHF138B8CXw)
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So in order to have higher wrist should I introduce trigger movement and high backlift would that help ?
Nope, just raise them as you set to bat. I just think your hands are a bit low, meaning your arms are extended and you don't get full control from your shots.
It's got nothing to do with trigger movement, or how high your backlift is. Just make sure your backlift is comfortable and is fairly straight (pointing to 1st and 2nd slip) and have the face facing backward point with wrists cocked back. You only need a trigger movement if your facing fast bowling or you can't get your feet moving. My preference is you have no trigger movement cause it's more simple to stand still which will let you concentrate more on the ball and where you place your feet to the ball.
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jonpinson
I think you will find bowling machines are there for the use of predictable bowling and as you stated to 'iron' out weak shots, not to play different strokes every shot. For less predictable bowling, have a net with people bowling as variations will be rife.
Unlike facing bowlers in the a net, the bowling machine is alot more difficult to face with variation of length and speed as there is not a bowlers arm to follow.
A bowling machine is not a toy and can be a dangerous thing and should be kept at a continuous length and speed.
Why argue a point I clearly made as if I said the opposite?
As I said, clearly, bowling machines can be used in a predictable and repeatable way which is great for practicing or perfecting a particular shot. Whether it be the short ball or a yorker, 90mph or slow spin. However if, as a batsmen, you only ever use a bowling machine to dismiss off stump half volleys through the covers, you will find yourself an awesome player of off stump half volleys, but you will be up the creek for anything else.
I'd much rather use a bowling machine in a more constructive way; for instance if I know that the opposition at the weekend have a particularly quick bowler who bowls back of a length, ten minutes of facing similar balls is beneficial. This can be difficult to replicate using real bowlers, as the rate of balls bowled is decreased. Not to mention, every team only has a certain number of decent bowlers. An entire net facing only pie chuckers is no good to man nor beast.
If you know what is coming, you can easily make yourself look like the best player in the world. There is no surprise, no guessing, and that is all well and good when making a youtube video.
Bowling machines in the wrong hands are indeed dangerous, and should never be used by anyone who doesn't know exactly what they are doing - of course. I'm afraid though that arguing that the deliveries should not be varied because it is unsafe to do so is rubbish. What do you do when you play in a match, politely ask the bowler to only bowl line and length?
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Why argue a point I clearly made as if I said the opposite?
As I said, clearly, bowling machines can be used in a predictable and repeatable way which is great for practicing or perfecting a particular shot. Whether it be the short ball or a yorker, 90mph or slow spin. However if, as a batsmen, you only ever use a bowling machine to dismiss off stump half volleys through the covers, you will find yourself an awesome player of off stump half volleys, but you will be up the creek for anything else.
I'd much rather use a bowling machine in a more constructive way; for instance if I know that the opposition at the weekend have a particularly quick bowler who bowls back of a length, ten minutes of facing similar balls is beneficial. This can be difficult to replicate using real bowlers, as the rate of balls bowled is decreased. Not to mention, every team only has a certain number of decent bowlers. An entire net facing only pie chuckers is no good to man nor beast.
If you know what is coming, you can easily make yourself look like the best player in the world. There is no surprise, no guessing, and that is all well and good when making a youtube video.
Bowling machines in the wrong hands are indeed dangerous, and should never be used by anyone who doesn't know exactly what they are doing - of course. I'm afraid though that arguing that the deliveries should not be varied because it is unsafe to do so is rubbish. What do you do when you play in a match, politely ask the bowler to only bowl line and length?
The point i was trying to make was that if you decide to use a bowling machine to use as a match situation, continuous change in line and length to me is not beneficial. You cannot use a bowlers arm or run up to give some idea of what type of ball will be bowled. Having 3 buckets on a bowling machine, each bucket being put on different lines and lengths, then going into a net will people actually bowling is far beneficial as you will be trying to put what you had against the bowling machine into practice.
If i was having a bowlingmachine net and the feeder decided to change the line and length continually, i would not be happy as it is normally set at between 75 -80 mph.
Next time i am playing, i will ask the bowler not to bowl and fire me balls from a machine as i am only used to balls being fired out of a machine.
'Rant over'
And yes, i have asked a bowler to keep bowling me line and length.
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Would also like to say is that using a bowling machine at a continuous line and length, over time i feel you will find yourself in better position and better sted to play that particular shot.
Not meaning everytime you have a balling machine net you have it set on half volleys all the time, it is about practicing shots that you find you are struggling with or getting your eye in.
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you seem to be on the walk when driving. ( I had the same problem) if you lean forward with your hips you may find it helps to straighten your back leg.
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Has anyone else commented on his front leg being a bit stiff?
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Guys, usually when trying to correct a batsman many problems the beneficial way to do it is to give he or she a couple of things to focus on.
If you were to say to the batsman you are straightening your front leg, bend at your hips and your back leg moves around a lot, you would get nowhere and as a result you would confuse the individual and they will quickly give up.
Instead, ask the individual to lead with their head feet will follow this will help to fix peripheral issues the individual may have.
The bottom hand issue is always a hard one to correct as well, if you focus to much on the hand itself it will take longer to be corrected. For a RH focus not dropping the right shoulder and for a LH focus on not dropping the left shoulder through the shot this has great results in improving this area particularly when playing off the front foot.
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Had nets today so I thought I'd give you guys an update. I took what I was told in this thread, I stood still rather than shuffle/trigger movement when bowler was about to get in bowling stride.
So today I was no where to be honest. When I stood still I wasn't able to middle or play any any shot to be honest with you guys I wasn't able to a single shot! I was leading with my head when bowler released the ball but I was just not getting to time the ball well.
So when nets were about to end I faced few balls with shuffle/trigger movement and I was able to do a bit better than standing still/firm.
Does it have to do anything with me being used to trigger movement/shuffle ?
Cys1 said I should have trigger movement before bowler got in bowling stride and to be honest I did that for few balls and result was better.
Cheers.
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You don't have much balance and as a result you find yourself walking at the ball and falling over... I suggest a trigger movement... Work hard on your game and you will see what good practice does..
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It sounds as though you need to work on your balance and "Zen". You are a very mobile batsman and would benefit from learning to wait. The suggestion of golf ball and wall practice would certainly help you to improve reaction and you wouldn't then need to trigger.
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the importance of "Zen" in batting is greatly underestimated.
People think buying a new bat will give you a clearer mind and improve your Zen.
They are wrong - it only confuses you (just ask Pete - he spends a hour just choosing which bats to put in to his kit back - then another hour after he has put his mum's and dad's on working out which one to walk out to bat with)
Zen emphasises experiential Wisdom in the attainment of enlightenment. As such, it de-emphasises theoretical knowledge in favor of direct self-realisation through meditation and dharma practice. The teachings of Zen include various sources of Mahāyāna thought, including the Prajñāpāramitā literature and the teachings of the Yogācāra and Tathāgatagarbha schools.
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the importance of "Zen" in batting is greatly underestimated.
People think buying a new bat will give you a clearer mind and improve your Zen.
The are wrong - it only confuses you (just ask Pete - he spends a hour just choosing which bats to put in to his kit back - then another hour after he has put his mum's and dad's on working out which one to walk out to bat with)
Zen emphasises experiential Wisdom in the attainment of enlightenment. As such, it de-emphasises theoretical knowledge in favor of direct self-realisation through meditation and dharma practice. The teachings of Zen include various sources of Mahāyāna thought, including the Prajñāpāramitā literature and the teachings of the Yogācāra and Tathāgatagarbha schools.
It's only midday. have you been drinking already? ;)
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Who the heck is Zen
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Zen is an art that is most generally associated with spiritual exercises. However, Zen concentration can be used for anything from relaxation to washing the dishes. A sense of well-being is cultivated and enhanced through this technique. This is especially helpful when you're engaged in an unpleasant task.
Use Zen concentration when you drink alcohol, concentrate on how water protects your whole body from the harmful effects of alcohol. Feel the protection and health benefits of the water. Visualise it driving out the toxins you absorbed from the alcohol. This will also help you to drink less than you normally would.
Zen is a school of Mahāyāna Buddhism, I can't believe you guys don't all know this stuff. It is fundamental.
or something.
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It sounds as though you need to work on your balance and "Zen". You are a very mobile batsman and would benefit from learning to wait. The suggestion of golf ball and wall practice would certainly help you to improve reaction and you wouldn't then need to trigger.
HIt the golf ball on the wall and play it each time thats what you mean? But how would that help my technique?
Also I once on BBC saw a self exercise which is that you place the ball under your chin and hold it against top of your throat and then drop it and once it bounces come on front foot and play the shot or defend it. Would that help considering the head has moved forward already?
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As far """"ZEN"""" is concerned I have no clue whatsoever what that thing is
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HIt the golf ball on the wall and play it each time thats what you mean? But how would that help my technique?
It makes you watch the ball and improves your reaction times.
Once you are used to watching the ball and are comfortable with reacting quickly, you can stay more still and balanced at the crease, increasing your options against the bowler and allowing you to play it later.
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As far """"ZEN"""" is concerned I have no clue whatsoever what that thing is
Zen is something that only comes with high end bats and quickly runs out, thus the only way to have Zen is to keep buying expensive gear.
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People think buying a new bat will give you a clearer mind and improve your Zen.
They are wrong - it only confuses you (just ask Pete - he spends a hour just choosing which bats to put in to his kit back - then another hour after he has put his mum's and dad's on working out which one to walk out to bat with)
Zen is something that only comes with high end bats and quickly runs out, thus the only way to have Zen is to keep buying expensive gear.
this really is Zen at its best
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Zen is something that only comes with high end bats and quickly runs out, thus the only way to have Zen is to keep buying expensive gear.
lol
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I'd also try wearing all 8 or 9 pairs of expensive pads you bought, might keep you from playing shots on the walk.
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Jon what the fu*k is your problem?
Its my efing money not yours! I can spend on booze, in bars, on drugs etc why do you give a fu*ck about it?
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i cant find the video link?
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I'd also try wearing all 8 or 9 pairs of expensive pads you bought, might keep you from playing shots on the walk.
Jon was that really necessary. . . . . . . . . .
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i cant find the video link?
Check my post a page or two back yo.
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Jon was that really necessary. . . . . . . . . .
Jon pull your head in mate, this is the exact reason I now spend more time on another forum and in fact I now spend more of my money elsewhere.
This place is going down hill as a few to many take it upon themselves to take consistent pot shots at others. If CD wants to buy 500 bats and 200 pairs of pads it has nothing to do with you.
CD is a young and enthusiastic guy who loves his cricket, don't shoot him down for that mate!!
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John pls pm me the details of the other forum. I may have a check. Hopefully a bit more civilised.
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I think it would be the pakpassion one. I tried ages ago and at the time I was rejected, lol. CD told me to apply again and he would clear it, but I keep forgetting. Think I will do it now.
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John pls pm me the details of the other forum. I may have a check. Hopefully a bit more civilised.
Pak Passion people are nice and civilised and you do not get shot down in flames every time you post.
It is good fun and a happy place to chat about everything cricket :)
Langer I think you will be ok as they made me feel very welcome ;)
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I know they would, but when I first tried like 5 months ago, for some reason I didnt meet the requirements to register. I was like wtf and had no idea what that meant, but it's all good now. I have still been going on to read posts on there every day or so.
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I kept forgetting to actually register
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can the mods have a word with this joker now please as it doesn't seem there's any post on here that he won't add an unnecessary word too.
CoverDrive you keep up the good work fella there were a couple of good shots in there and I don't think there are any of us on here that don't have a few issues with our own batting.
"let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and all that ;)
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Oh and you buy as much new gear as you like fella!
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can the mods have a word with this joker now please as it doesn't seem there's any post on here that he won't add an unnecessary word too.
CoverDrive you keep up the good work fella there were a couple of good shots in there and I don't think there are any of us on here that don't have a few issues with our own batting.
"let he who is without sin cast the first stone" and all that ;)
Well said mate, could not of said it better myself ;)
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I'd like to see a vid of Jon's batting
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Never seen anyone critise Hosks bat buying.... and thats in a different league to CD..... he can spend his money on what he wants, if i wasnt going to uni in september i might have a bat or two more :D
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I'd like to see a vid of Jon's batting
Be really interesting wouldn't!!
But in all seriousness I hope Admin put a stop to this type of negative behavior as forums need people like CD as his passion for cricket is infectious and he should be applauded not put down. Lets hope Leo and Co can get the forum back on track to being an enjoyable place for all!!:)
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Almost five years go by, this is how I am these days;
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrm1UtQxsdw&feature=youtu.be (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lrm1UtQxsdw&feature=youtu.be)
I am one with silver shorts black pads/helmet and Gray Nicolls bat.
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Uzair much much improved you have worked hard no doubt looking much better pal
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Loving the glorious on driving.
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Uzair much much improved you have worked hard no doubt looking much better pal
Thank you very much. I hope I score some runs this season.
Loving the glorious on driving.
Thank you very much for your endless support and coaching, that's where I got learned little bit of batting.
By far you have been biggest force in improving my batting.
Shout out to @roco and @100 not out even. Appreciate it.
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Next time I am flying we I'll plan a couple extra hrs in Toronto and we net :)
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Next time I am flying we I'll plan a couple extra hrs in Toronto and we net :)
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Down for it any day/night/hour. :)