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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: jonpinson on May 27, 2011, 07:00:10 PM
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It only occured to me today that this year's IPL has been completely devoid of the Mongoose brand. Now, considering that last year even the IPL itself was trying to ram the brand down our throats, it seems odd that this year there hasn't been so much as a word.
All part of the masterplan or has it fallen flat on it's face?
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can't say i'd buy one - not a fan off the stickers or stories i have heard in terms of performance...
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That's neither here nor there though. I don't like the idea, it doesn't suit my playing style, but I'd imagine they got a lot of sales off the back of last year's promotion via the IPL.
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I thought that tonight, it seems strange how last year the world and there wife was using one and now this use its dead out
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fad
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Does Tom still work for them?
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Interesting lack of response as we have at least one member directly associated with the brand. If the technology did indeed perform as described, surely we'd have seem players choosing to use them in the IPL this year.
Except Tresco who in current form could score runs with a stick of celery, all the big name sponsorships seem to have gone too.
I know Tom left, we wern't told why.
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but is he actually using a mongoose as the guy at m&h tells me that tresco gave m&h one of his geese to copy as it was an absolute plank!!!
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but is he actually using a mongoose as the guy at m&h tells me that tresco gave m&h one of his geese to copy as it was an absolute plank!!!
Unless that can be verified I wouldn't read too much into it. It would hardly be the first time a batmaker...sorry, bat sander made an almost unverifiable claim against a rival brand. For that to be the case, the bat in question would have to have been tried and tested, I just can't see it. Besides, I know of no batmakers employed by MH these days. Just some guys handy with a sander and adept at applying stickers.
I have no axe to grind with Mongoose, although I'll admit the concept does nothing for me and if their claims were accurate the pro market would be flooded with them. Whether Tresco uses a Mongoose or another bat restickered I don't know, but there seems to have been a sensational fall from grace in just 12 months.
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I know Tom left, we wern't told why.
Probably because it's none of our business.
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Probably because it's none of our business.
If I could like that post I would.
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Probably because it's none of our business.
Indeed. The thread isn't about that though.
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Jon - both Rob and Nick at MH are podshavers to my knowledge? Not just sanders and sticker applying executives
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Indeed. The thread isn't about that though.
No, but your post was.
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Jon - both Rob and Nick at MH are podshavers to my knowledge? Not just sanders and sticker applying executives
Lets agree to disagree :)
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http://getahundred.com/blog/page/3
scroll down the page. . .
Nick looks more than a sander to me . . .
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So why then do they buy in part mades?
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i think only Nick or Rob can answer that
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I thought that tonight, it seems strange how last year the world and there wife was using one and now this use its dead out
Agree, it has gone quiet. Interested to see how Sky and Trescothick take to it in the upcoming T20s
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In your time with them were the losses far greater than they had forecast
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I've seen a couple being used this year by club players.
I think the difficulty is getting people to part with their hard earned cash for something different. Maybe the marketing team should hold open days at indoor schools where people interested can wield a goose for 15 minutes against a bowling machine.
During the English T20 season we might see a bit more coverage if Trescothick, Blackwell etc. wield the bats effectively.
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Is it perhaps that all those who have used them have not realised the expected benefits and gone back to the sponsors that pay more because the bat makes little difference?
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Is it perhaps that all those who have used them have not realised the expected benefits and gone back to the sponsors that pay more because the bat makes little difference?
No.
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Are you still involved in any cricket companys Tom?
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Are you still involved in any cricket companys Tom?
No, not at the moment.
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My friend is tempted to get an MMi3 and as he is really good at golf, might replicate this in his batting.
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I've seen a lot of corr3 models this year and 1 mmi in an evening friendly so I don't know if phase 2 of the goose master plan is working but it does seem their getting about in the southern area
I've had numerous conversations with guys at our club regarding them and consensus always seems to be people want to give one a go but would rather look to borrow one first to see what it would be like. Everytime one pops up on here I have to say I get the itch to purchase one but have always seemed to just miss out.
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Not seen a single one in action yet, MMi or Cor3.... cant say i even want to try one of the MMi's, wouldnt mind a Cor3 though
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There was a chap using a Mongoose MMi in a pro 40 game on Sky a couple of weeks back. He flayed it to all parts....was the first I had seen this season though.
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My mate who I play with here in Aust has one of each. Bought them a bit over a year ago, he picked them up when he was in the uk on holidays. Both of these bats seriously are guns. Some of the biggest cleanest hitting I have seen was with the MMi
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Our skip has one and it is a rocket, I just found it quite hard to get on with!
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I have seen a few and owned a Cor3, although not a standard one.
I would expect to see a lot of junior Mongoose bats being used in the Somerset area because of the Trescothick effect. Went up to Taunton last weekend and there were no SH bats, just 1 SM which I'm guessing is SSH? and there were loads of junior ones.
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I should point out that one of the Worcester lads uses them, but then there is nowhere local that sells them.
Not our business and I doubt it is the sort of thing to ever be made public, but one thing that struck me as odd in last year's IPL was that although Mongoose got alot of air time, lots of mentions, the bats really didn't get used much. Was there perhaps a deal in place where Mongoose had paid for the focus to be on them?
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AJ Knowles in Worcester central took stock this season, I remember posting it.
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Not our business and I doubt it is the sort of thing to ever be made public, but one thing that struck me as odd in last year's IPL was that although Mongoose got alot of air time, lots of mentions, the bats really didn't get used much. Was there perhaps a deal in place where Mongoose had paid for the focus to be on them?
Besides paying Hayden to use it, who scored 93 in 1st outing with it. No.
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Besides paying Hayden to use it, who scored 93 in 1st outing with it. No.
Interesting, thanks for taking the time to respond. From that then we can assume that the idea must have taken the eye of someone pretty high up in the organisation because the coverage you (they) got was pretty unprecedented in any sporting coverage.
I genuinely hope that this is just a quite period, a gathering of forces, rather than the start of a downward trend because although the brand concept does nothing for me, I admire anyone who has the balls to do it differently.
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The coverage was unprecedented because it's incredibly rare to launch such a new radical looking product in any sport. When they do, it generates vast interest. An example is the Speedo swimsuit. Or even Nike with their Pink boots for Bendtner.
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The coverage was unprecedented because it's incredibly rare to launch such a new radical looking product in any sport. When they do, it generates vast interest. An example is the Speedo swimsuit. Or even Nike with their Pink boots for Bendtner.
I take your point but I think the Mongoose example was more prolific than either of those other two. I remember the furore about the swim suits but I couldn't have told you who made them.
I don't know how things stand with Mongoose at the moment and I have no wish to know, but I suppose you can look at it like this; If a brand can receive so much free advertising from a global brand like the IPL and still not be fruitful, perhaps it is an indication that the concept isn't viable.
Like I said though, I hope I'm wrong.
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Do you think that it could be a similair thing to ayrteks (from how I understand). Although the product is proven to work, people may still not want to part with their hard earned cash in case they a) don't get on with it, or b) get the mick taken out of them by team-mates/opposition etc. for believing that something new might make them a better player. I would love to try one but not sure I could justify it until seeing the results first hand.
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AJ Knowles in Worcester central took stock this season, I remember posting it.
Quite right, seemingly one of each of the low grade models both adult and junior. So 4 bats, all of which are long gone. So I guess it means they are selling.
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Do you think that it could be a similair thing to ayrteks (from how I understand). Although the product is proven to work, people may still not want to part with their hard earned cash in case they a) don't get on with it, or b) get the mick taken out of them by team-mates/opposition etc. for believing that something new might make them a better player. I would love to try one but not sure I could justify it until seeing the results first hand.
By all accounts Ayrtek are getting busier by the day and the hardest part at the moment is trying to keep supply up with demand. :) Now they are being adopted by more and more counties people will be exposed to them more.
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I don't know how things stand with Mongoose at the moment and I have no wish to know, but I suppose you can look at it like this; If a brand can receive so much free advertising from a global brand like the IPL and still not be fruitful, perhaps it is an indication that the concept isn't viable.
There's a little more to running a successful business than that.
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There's a little more to running a successful business than that.
;)
Of that I am in no doubt.