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Title: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on September 13, 2012, 06:24:07 PM
I have sourced some helicopter scuff sheet that I believe enhances the bats performance in a similar way to a laminated bat through a combination of the glue and thicker plastic used. It's used on Helicopter erosion shields and I have been trialing it now for a few months. I think it works but would like some others to give me their opinion. Therefore I'm looking for 3/4 people to have a go with it and give me their honest opinion.

Let me know if you are interested and I will choose a few to trial it for me.

Thanks
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Buzz on September 13, 2012, 06:25:57 PM
yes please, I will pm you have pm'd you (twice!)!

Many thanks
 
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on September 13, 2012, 06:28:44 PM
Ok Buzz your number 1. Pm me your address and I will post one to you. Put it on one of you decent bats and let me know what you think.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Blank Bats on September 13, 2012, 06:35:13 PM
i'm game :)

do i need to pm you?

thanks
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Johnny on September 13, 2012, 06:37:55 PM
I'm keen, but not planning on hitting any cricket balls until February now
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Cover_Drive on September 13, 2012, 06:40:18 PM
I'm keen as well :D
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: wilkie113 on September 13, 2012, 06:40:37 PM
I'll be up for testing one :)
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on September 13, 2012, 06:41:56 PM
Ideally I need people that are going to be netting in the next week or 2.

Thanks
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: wilkie113 on September 13, 2012, 06:42:34 PM
Ideally I need people that are going to be netting in the next week or 2.

Thanks

I have games until the end of September so I'm your guy :D haha
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: uknsaunders on September 13, 2012, 06:43:55 PM
I'm up for it and playing at least 3 more games this season  :D
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Cover_Drive on September 13, 2012, 06:44:58 PM
Ideally I need people that are going to be netting in the next week or 2.

Thanks

Have like four games left so obviously nets in between too!
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: 19reading87 on September 13, 2012, 06:46:41 PM
happy to help out mate
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: procricket on September 13, 2012, 06:50:49 PM
I have sourced some helicopter scuff sheet that I believe enhances the bats performance in a similar way to a laminated bat through a combination of the glue and thicker plastic used. It's used on Helicopter erosion shields and I have been trialing it now for a few months. I think it works but would like some others to give me their opinion. Therefore I'm looking for 3/4 people to have a go with it and give me their honest opinion.

Let me know if you are interested and I will choose a few to trial it for me.

Thanks





yes please keiron iam all up for that
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: FvanN on September 13, 2012, 06:51:54 PM
How much are they as I have a rubbish scuff sheet on my D&R so could be in the market for buying one  :D
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on September 13, 2012, 06:57:32 PM
I'm waiting for the feedback from the tests before putting a price on them !
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Village Trundler on September 13, 2012, 07:04:22 PM
Haha Christ, if this keeps up, bowlers are going to need standard issue bottle-tops to stay competitive in the game!

Having said that, we are deep into pre-season training if you are willing to sell to Australia?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Nickauger on September 13, 2012, 07:06:27 PM
If you haven't got enough mate and you know of somewhere to go for a net lol, I'm keen.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: tim2000s on September 13, 2012, 08:53:35 PM
certainly interested. Have a bat I could try it on.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Village Trundler on September 13, 2012, 08:55:38 PM
If you haven't got enough mate and you know of somewhere to go for a net lol, I'm keen.

Haha, where are you from? Newcastle here!
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Chad on September 13, 2012, 09:08:36 PM
I'll definitely be up for it, as university nets start pretty much as soon as term starts, so I could get you the test results 2 weeks after the training starts? I feel one session won't be good enough!
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: tim2000s on September 13, 2012, 09:20:48 PM
If you can get it to me for Saturday, I'm supposed to be playing on Sunday!
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: tushar sehgal on September 13, 2012, 10:40:19 PM
Hey mate i wouldn't mind trying these as i need some sheets anyways and also have 4 league matches and 2 finals left...

P.s. also pm'd earlier but was typing with one hand as the other hand was busy keeping a 1 yr old at bay....
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Colesy on September 13, 2012, 11:20:02 PM
Kieron I have games this Saturday and Sunday and can net whenever the weather holds so can put my name in the ring if you want.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on September 14, 2012, 05:32:13 AM
Thanks for all the offers and pm's gents. I have selected a few peopl and the sheets will be in the post today. Give them a go and see what you think.

Thanks again
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Simmy on September 14, 2012, 08:05:26 AM
awww boo ive only just seen this :(
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on September 18, 2012, 07:34:17 PM
Hopefully those who I sent scuff sheets out to have received them by now. I know Dave (procricket) has already used his and recognised some difference. Wonder if anyone else has had chance to use ?

Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Colesy on September 18, 2012, 07:38:41 PM
Haven't received it yet, took the old one off and gave my bat a sanding and oil in prep for it to go on.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: uknsaunders on September 18, 2012, 07:40:40 PM
I used mine in grinding out 34 on Sunday. Very impressed with the thickness, it's going to take alot to break through that sucker. Looks like 3 layers? Performance wise, I didn't think I timed it any worse than normal but didn't feel a noticeable improvement. It's difficult when your bat is going pretty well anyway and the deck for once is coming on. That said, one little collingwood shovel down the ground did seem to speed away...
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: FvanN on September 21, 2012, 07:05:02 PM
So chaps what the feed back like?? My SAF needs a refurb and my D&R needs a new scuff sheet and these sound like the go.. 
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: procricket on September 21, 2012, 07:08:54 PM
well i like mine there tough for sure and do not mark easily i found no significant increase performance but they are a top scuff sheet bar the gloss finish

Cheers keiron for allowing me to test it
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: FvanN on September 21, 2012, 07:12:41 PM
Hmmm how glossy is the gloss?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: procricket on September 21, 2012, 07:14:26 PM
similar to the gloss as Laver scuff too

there a quality product
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: FvanN on September 21, 2012, 07:20:45 PM
Thanks Pro... Will have to wait and see when they become available
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on September 21, 2012, 07:22:44 PM
I guess only time will tell if them improve performance but hey like Dave says they are good scuff sheets all the same.

If anyone would like some please drops an email or pm.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Joe on September 21, 2012, 07:53:43 PM
How much?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: SkipperJ on October 08, 2012, 08:14:02 PM
So what's the verdict on these? Did anyone notice performance enhancement after slapping these on?

Btw, how thick are these sheets? Regular sheets are about 6-8 mils I guess.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: tim2000s on October 08, 2012, 08:17:56 PM
So what's the verdict on these? Did anyone notice performance enhancement after slapping these on?

Btw, how thick are these sheets? Regular sheets are about 6-8 mils I guess.
No chance. Regular scuff sheet is less than 1mm thick.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Colesy on October 08, 2012, 08:18:15 PM
0.6 - 0.8 I think he meant
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: SkipperJ on October 09, 2012, 12:15:40 AM
1 mil = .001 inch (.025 millimetre)

So 8 mil would be about 0.2 mm
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Colesy on October 09, 2012, 12:26:51 AM
"Anti-scuff – All bats may have a sheet of traditional style anti-scuff fitted. This sheet shall not exceed 0.04 in/1 mm in thickness"
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: SkipperJ on October 09, 2012, 12:33:15 AM
Mate, 1 mm is the maximum thickness allowed. I don't think typical scuff sheets come anywhere close to that.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: tim2000s on October 09, 2012, 06:10:14 AM
1 mil = .001 inch (.025 millimetre)

So 8 mil would be about 0.2 mm
Hmmm. Either you live somewhere imperial or you are of an older disposition... I normally hear mil as slang for mm.

Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Number4 on October 09, 2012, 06:41:03 AM
Hmmm. Either you live somewhere imperial or you are of an older disposition... I normally hear mil as slang for mm.

It's a US term. One thousandth of an inch is call Mil or a thou is equal to a mil
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Kulli on October 09, 2012, 06:46:51 AM
In Norwegian a mil is 10km, that'd be one serious anti-scuff.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: SkipperJ on October 09, 2012, 12:59:02 PM
So Kieron, how thick are these sheets then?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: lastmanstand on October 10, 2012, 09:45:37 AM
Does the below also apply to bat tape?

"Anti-scuff – All bats may have a sheet of traditional style anti-scuff fitted. This sheet shall not exceed 0.04 in/1 mm in thickness"

Definitely seen multiple layers of bat tape that would be more than 1mm thick
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on October 10, 2012, 07:18:36 PM
So Kieron, how thick are these sheets then?

I would say 1/2 mm or 20 thou to those imperial engineers out there. I will get my mic out tomorrow and let you know exactly.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: tushar sehgal on October 11, 2012, 01:33:30 AM
I would say 1/2 mm or 20 thou to those imperial engineers out there. I will get my mic out tomorrow and let you know exactly.

Pls share your test results too!!
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Spanky on January 02, 2013, 10:25:23 PM
Any updates/feedback on these scuff sheets?

Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on January 03, 2013, 04:45:04 PM
All the scuff sheets purchased yesterday were sent out today.

Still have some left if anyone is interested.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Sam on January 03, 2013, 05:16:44 PM
What price for one of these mate :).
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on January 03, 2013, 06:13:42 PM
£5 inc postage for 1. Discount on multiple purchases.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on January 04, 2013, 11:47:13 AM
Still have some of this left. Drop me a pm if you would like some. Thanks.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bruce on January 04, 2013, 12:09:07 PM
I'll have 3, will collect when we come down to you Saturday week.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on January 04, 2013, 12:40:23 PM
No worries Bruce.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: i12breakfree on January 04, 2013, 12:44:29 PM
can you please put a picture of this magic :) scuff sheet
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on January 04, 2013, 01:12:37 PM
Think Dave procricket put a picture up somewhere with it applied to a bat. It's not magic by the way.

Let me know if you would like some

Thanks
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Ams4287 on January 05, 2013, 10:39:03 PM
Received some sheets this morning, look good quality and very quick delivery! If only they would turn me into a good batsmen! :-[
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: csnew on January 09, 2013, 01:48:08 PM
Bought one of these last week.
Seen a better "ping" on my bat. Much stronger than other scuff sheets

Might be worth trying a thicker design (as people have mentioned). Same theory as a laminate bat, but not too sure if it would be illegal to use a 2-3mm scuff sheet
 
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on January 12, 2013, 02:27:30 PM
How have other people been finding this scuff sheet ?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: tushar sehgal on January 12, 2013, 05:45:07 PM
How have other people been finding this scuff sheet ?

Haven't tried them yet...but will most likely give them a go on Feb 2nd
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: ozcfa on January 26, 2013, 03:18:45 AM
so guys what's the verdict? any feedback....
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: The_Bird on February 25, 2013, 07:42:09 PM
Any of these left Mr Bulldog?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on February 25, 2013, 07:47:33 PM
Yes Sir, drop me a PM and we will sort some out for you.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: snafu on March 21, 2013, 01:44:07 PM
i am thinking of getting some of this or the helicopter stuff,but no one seems to have put a review of it. can anyone give me an appraisal
and is it really 3mm thick
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Colesy on March 21, 2013, 01:47:20 PM
In all honesty I prefer a helicopter sheet. I liked the idea of this version but the rigidity meant that when you edges the ball, the sheet split and cracked. And, hands down the most god awful scuff sheet to remove!

If you don't mind spending time to remove it (or get someone else to do it) then I'd recommend them if you can somehow reinforce the edges.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: The_Bird on March 21, 2013, 01:48:54 PM
put mine on and was really impressed, the bowlers who nearly lost their ankles weren't though.

ive just bought 4 more, highly recommended
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on March 21, 2013, 02:00:33 PM
They are less than 1mm thick. I guess the extra glue makes them difficult to remove, not that I have tried.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: snafu on March 21, 2013, 02:10:40 PM
Dont like the sound of them splitting when edging,are they that brittle?what about putting a strip of the fibre tape down the edges nice and tight
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on March 21, 2013, 02:33:32 PM
Ive not had one split personally.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on March 21, 2013, 03:07:40 PM
Another idea might be to trim them to bat width so that they don't wrap around the edges.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: DevAussie on March 24, 2013, 09:08:58 AM
Any of these left fella?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: syedozair@extracover on April 09, 2013, 10:45:52 AM
Ideally I need people that are going to be netting in the next week or 2.

Thanks
even am intrstd. in this pease.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: tim2000s on April 09, 2013, 10:56:48 AM
even am intrstd. in this pease.
Speak properly.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: uknsaunders on April 09, 2013, 02:08:26 PM
Just on the cracking topic, my outside edge has received a right battering and has cracked onto the face, but the inside edge is fine:-

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T00LE-sncqg/UWQfGIrulPI/AAAAAAAAJ0A/xdPAzfB9c9I/s679/20130409_150025.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dL1CO0tyjL0/UWQfLncACEI/AAAAAAAAJ0M/3Z5Vk6EX_IM/s679/20130409_150029.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G7lRgME9weA/UWQfRcytBHI/AAAAAAAAJ04/2QVTxAhvCWU/s679/20130409_150040.jpg)

That said it's done a decent job of protecting the face during winter nets, better than many I've used. I'm going to leave it on for the season and get GM to refurb the bat in the autumn, including taking the sheet off  :)
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Chad on April 09, 2013, 02:12:01 PM
Just on the cracking topic, my outside edge has received a right battering and has cracked onto the face, but the inside edge is fine:-

(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-T00LE-sncqg/UWQfGIrulPI/AAAAAAAAJ0A/xdPAzfB9c9I/s679/20130409_150025.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-dL1CO0tyjL0/UWQfLncACEI/AAAAAAAAJ0M/3Z5Vk6EX_IM/s679/20130409_150029.jpg)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-G7lRgME9weA/UWQfRcytBHI/AAAAAAAAJ04/2QVTxAhvCWU/s679/20130409_150040.jpg)

That said it's done a decent job of protecting the face during winter nets, better than many I've used. I'm going to leave it on for the season and get GM to refurb the bat in the autumn, including taking the sheet off  :)

Normally I put fibreglass tape on the edges to stop this from happening! Nothing bugs me more than a cracking scuff!  >:(
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: cricketbadger on April 09, 2013, 02:13:20 PM
mines been doing this, looks a right mess, gonna trim all the scuff off round the edge of the bat, then just replace it with tape
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on April 09, 2013, 02:48:31 PM
Think I will trim the sheets to bat width in future to save from cracking. Afterall you don't need performance enhancing on the edges anyway !!
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: cricketbadger on April 09, 2013, 02:49:42 PM
Think I will trim the sheets to bat width in future to save from cracking. Afterall you don't need performance enhancing on the edges anyway !!

speak for yourself
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 09, 2013, 04:58:21 PM
you don't need performance enhancing on the edges anyway !!

Definitely not mate, my edges go well enough for the ball to carry to slip without enhancing the performance ;)
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on April 09, 2013, 07:59:20 PM
Haha yes, perhaps that is the next product to look into......a scuff sheet edges that stops the ball carrying to the slips !!
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: EaglesCC on April 30, 2013, 08:21:10 AM
Can those who’ve used these recently please post your results? Concerned that if they crack like shown in Chads pics then perhaps hammer edge would be a better alternative.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: uknsaunders on April 30, 2013, 09:24:43 AM
as per my pics above, the outside edge got a battering. The inside edge was fine. Funny enough on another bat I found plenty of damage in the same area, using a hammer edge scuff. Difference between the two bats is the scuff type and I suspect this scuff it a little too rigid on the edges. However, I also don't think a Hammer Edge would protect your bat any better, it just doesn't crack on the scuff, but on the bat itself. As Kieron suggests, a face only sheet would solve this problem and I found little or no damage to the bat on the face. Performance wise, the bat went well with it on but now I've taken it off I'll have a clearer idea when I next use it.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on April 30, 2013, 09:26:36 AM
Sold out of these at the moment. Next batch will be bat width to eliminate the edge cracking problem.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: EaglesCC on April 30, 2013, 10:13:58 AM
Agree - I think if like the hammer edge these could be cut to the width of the bat with edge tape it may work better.

Kieron did you get my message?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: zawarrior on April 30, 2013, 10:57:48 AM
does anyone on the forum have these helicopter sheets need 3 asap. can pay through bank or paypal. whatevers preferable........
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on April 30, 2013, 11:54:32 AM
I have plenty of Helcopter scuff sheet in stock.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: EaglesCC on April 30, 2013, 12:51:37 PM
Sold out of these at the moment. Next batch will be bat width to eliminate the edge cracking problem.

I have plenty of Helcopter scuff sheet in stock.

I'm confused!! Is the stuff in the pics which was trialed/ cracked not Helicopter Scuff sheet?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: zawarrior on April 30, 2013, 12:54:07 PM
I'm confused!!

lol so am i, didnt notice that and i just paid......
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Nickauger on April 30, 2013, 01:09:11 PM
No, those are performance scuff sheets!
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: zawarrior on May 29, 2013, 10:27:51 AM
Hi lad. Have the next batch of performance scuff sheets arrived yet
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: syedozair@extracover on June 01, 2013, 10:38:01 AM
I have sourced some helicopter scuff sheet that I believe enhances the bats performance in a similar way to a laminated bat through a combination of the glue and thicker plastic used. It's used on Helicopter erosion shields and I have been trialing it now for a few months. I think it works but would like some others to give me their opinion. Therefore I'm looking for 3/4 people to have a go with it and give me their honest opinion.

Let me know if you are interested and I will choose a few to trial it for me.

Thanks
Can you please send me couple of these for trial??
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: syedozair@extracover on June 05, 2013, 11:31:01 AM
These sheets sounds amaizing, dfntly. want to use one.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: timshort15 on June 05, 2013, 08:17:27 PM
How do these enhance a bats performance, do they just give the bat more ping?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on September 09, 2014, 06:58:56 PM
Back by popular demand......I have more of the performance scuff sheet in stock. This time it is more flexible than last time so will not crack on the edges as some people experienced before.

£4.00 inc postage for 1 sheet. Discounts for larger orders.

Thanks

Kieron
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on September 09, 2014, 07:02:17 PM
How long is it mate?
And while we're on the subject of length how long is 1 sheet of this?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on September 09, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
Standard length is 33cm for 1 sheet but its on a roll so can be cut to any length that is required.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: UCCAlbie on February 02, 2015, 06:19:46 PM
Are any of these still available? if they are what is the prices for these?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Bulldog Cricket on February 03, 2015, 08:01:21 PM
Yes still available and its £4 a sheet. Thanks.
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: abdulwq on February 22, 2015, 10:57:19 PM
Hello,
How much would be three performance scuff sheets including shipping to Finland?
Title: Re: Performance scuff sheet
Post by: Northern monkey on February 23, 2015, 08:30:32 AM
Good morning
How much for three scuff sheets?
How much do the sheets weigh?

Many thanks