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General Cricket => Your Cricket => Topic started by: LeonieKelly18 on January 21, 2013, 06:55:25 PM
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If you could choose what would you choose Playing for your National team or IPL(BBL or BPL) or county.
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Yorkshire, every time!
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Yorkshire, every time!
see i said aswell i'd choose my county career over my national but i got laughed at and called a idiot for thinking that...
glad im not the only one who thinks like that
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England
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Country, county/province and IPL/BBL in that order...
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Ireland (Well England) Everytime, then county then IPL. That order. Although tail end of career I would chase the money!
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If I found myself in that position, England first, then depending on where I was in my career, County or IPL. If I was late in my long (hopefully) England career and well known/good enough to attract a decent price, I'd possibly even choose IPL over Country...
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Country, County then IPL. Honestly think playing the longer format is when you know how good you really are,. I have never found any shorter format of the game as hard as 2-3 games i have played when i was a lot younger, Concentration levels need to be on point all day and that is very hard.
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Yorkshire, every time!
Absolutely. Start with the biggest an best then work down from there
Yorkshire
England
Other counties
IPL
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Is national not the obvious choice as getting that would mean you'd probably have the others?
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Is national not the obvious choice as getting that would mean you'd probably have the others?
yea but national is shorter period of time plus what if your country isnt good enough to play at the highest level?
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see i said aswell i'd choose my county career over my national but i got laughed at and called a idiot for thinking that...
glad im not the only one who thinks like that
Hell yes. I still have my schoolboy cap, not that I particularly deserved it, and I reckon it means more to me than any other possession.
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Hell yes. I still have my schoolboy cap, not that I particularly deserved it, and I reckon it means more to me than any other possession.
i have every cap or shirt ive ever played in.
Club, county and national funny tours and guest teams
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yea but national is shorter period of time plus what if your country isnt good enough to play at the highest level?
That's a different position to be in though. If you could represent England (say) rather than Netherlands, would your choice change?
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im still awaitng the phonecall from all 3...i blame a dodgy phone signal for lack of call-ups thus far!
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Representing your country at any sport should always be the pinnacle. Not many people get the opportunity to do that and regardless of financial gains at county level, international caps should be respected as the highest level of the sport. In my opinion
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That's a different position to be in though. If you could represent England (say) rather than Netherlands, would your choice change?
i have a brittish pasport so i could,
for the cricket id say england but the netherlands is where i started and where i love it.
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Representing your country at any sport should always be the pinnacle. Not many people get the opportunity to do that and regardless of financial gains at county level, international caps should be respected as the highest level of the sport. In my opinion
could i add that the most important is that you enjoy it cause if you dont let someone who does enjoy it do it?
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I guess it's different for young English player than it is for young South Africans players.
Obviously playing for the Proteas is the holy grail, but as the IPL falls outside our domestic season - there's no need to sacrifice playing for your home team to play IPL
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Absolutely. Start with the biggest an best then work down from there
Yorkshire
England
Other counties
IPL
Notts
England
IPL for last season or 2 (boost my pension)
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Australia
NSW
IPL _(Kings XI)
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I'd choose County over the lot of them personally, can't be much better than being settled with family etc then having to go play cricket every day. It may be a bit frustrating at times with the rain over here, but when the sun's out it's lovely. I'd love to be playing at New Road week-in, week-out with a nice humble crowd, than having to travel country to country to play different tournaments.
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I used to dream of playing for Australia, not WA. Think that answers that sufficiently.
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Representing your country at any sport should always be the pinnacle. Not many people get the opportunity to do that and regardless of financial gains at county level, international caps should be respected as the highest level of the sport. In my opinion
This man talk loads of sense, I concur his sentiments. :)
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I guess it's different for young English player than it is for young South Africans players.
Obviously playing for the Proteas is the holy grail, but as the IPL falls outside our domestic season - there's no need to sacrifice playing for your home team to play IPL
I thought every South Africans holy grail was playing for England ;)
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In chronological order
County,
England
IPL
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In chronological order
County
South Africa ;)
IPL
My take is that if you do well at county level and then kick on at international level the cash from the IPL wont be to far behind.
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I would go for
Start of the Career -20-25
Ireland - Irish blood in the family and try to help gain test status.
Lancs
England
IPL Cash
Middle of career - 26-29
England - of test status of Ireland is not achieved
IPL - money for the end of the career
Lancs
Tail end -30+
Lancs
BBL - for a bit of a holiday with the family and extra cash.
But lucky for me I was not blessed with the cricket skills to have to make a choice.
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I guess it depends on the length of the career. I would obviously say England first. but id want a decent run of it. non of this one test wonder rubbish. if that wasnt possible then a good 15yr county contract would do. Not sure if i fancy the IPL to be honest. BBL yeah, IPL no. just doesnt appeal being stuck in india for a month lol. could quite happily laze around in australia for a month or two with a few games here and there.
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I guess it depends on the length of the career. I would obviously say England first. but id want a decent run of it. non of this one test wonder rubbish. if that wasnt possible then a good 15yr county contract would do. Not sure if i fancy the IPL to be honest. BBL yeah, IPL no. just doesnt appeal being stuck in india for a month lol. could quite happily laze around in australia for a month or two with a few games here and there.
Agreed, BBL looks like a lot of fun, it seems to be better organised than IPL, far less questionable 'financial arrangements' and the domestic players seem to be of a much higher quality. Such a shame England hasn't managed to do something like this with our domestic competition. The T20 here seems to be a bit of a damp squib....well, until finals day that is.
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I don't care how old I am when i get my hypothetical chance, Country is always first :)..i am a little surprised some have chosen county over country but then everyone is different...
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I'd have to say country first, I have this thing that if you can play for your country you should, unless you have to stop to prolong your career due to injury. How many of us on here have dreamed of representing our respective countries in whatever sport? It's the absolute pinnacle and a privilege that only a very few of us will ever achieve.
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country then county then lucrative t20 tournaments
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England (if that wasn't successful I could qualify for Ireland), Surrey then some form of T20 league, either BBL or Carribean T20. Could quite happily laze about in Aus/WI for 6 weeks! Otherwise, hit the slopes and Snowboard for britain in slopestyle!
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I thought every South Africans holy grail was playing for England ;)
If you guys keep taking guys like Kieswetter be my guest :D
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If I was playing as a pro and couldn't/wasn't good enough to play for the Proteas, I'd try my luck with the Kiwis.
No disrespect to them but plenty of decent South Africans are heading that way recently.
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what are the rules migrating like that?
deffinitely not a citizenship issue by the sounds
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Need to spend X amount of years living and playing there to qualify.
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Would prefer a long county career to a short international career if that was the case, ipl big bash does nothing for me but obviously wouldn't turn it down! Haha to be fair I only get selected for my team because I'm the captain!
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what are the rules migrating like that?
deffinitely not a citizenship issue by the sounds
Think it's 4 years qualification period.
Neil Wagner went down that route.
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If you guys keep taking guys like Kieswetter be my guest :D
Hey I'm an Aussie.. We don't poach thankyou ;)
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Hey I'm an Aussie.. We don't poach thankyou ;)
poor you even your female team lost the series against NZ...
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Hey I'm an Aussie.. We don't poach thankyou ;)
Andrew Symonds... Born in Birmingham if I recall correctly
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Andrew Symonds... Born in Birmingham if I recall correctly
His parents forced him upon us :)
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poor you even your female team lost the series against NZ...
Big call coming from Netherlands cricket team there ;) :D
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Below are listed twenty Australian Test cricketers who were born overseas.
ENGLAND (10): Charles Bannerman, John Hodges, Tom Kendall, William Midwinter, Percy McDonnell, William Cooper, Henry Musgrove, Hanson Carter, Tony Dell and Andrew Symonds.
SCOTLAND (1): Archie Jackson.
IRELAND (2): Tom Horan, Tom Kelly.
SOUTH AFRICA (1): Kepler Wessels.
NEW ZEALAND (3): Tom Groube, Clarrie Grimmett and Brendon Julian.
INDIA (2): Bransby Cooper and Rex Sellers.
SRI LANKA (1): Dav Whatmore.
Everyone has had players who have represented the national side who weren't born in that country. The England team have had more because our pool of home grown talent hasnt been as good as the Australians.
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You can add Khawaja born in Pakistan to that list. Plus Moses Henriques was born in Portugal as well.
I remember in the last Ashes the Aussies kept moaning about Trott, Pietersen etc but were more than willing to turn a blind eye to Khawaja ;)
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You can add Khawaja born in Pakistan to that list. Plus Moses Henriques was born in Portugal as well.
I remember in the last Ashes the Aussies kept moaning about Trott, Pietersen etc but were more than willing to turn a blind eye to Khawaja ;)
The difference between Khawaja and Henriques compared to Pietersen and Trott is that Khawaja and Henriques moved to Australia very young. So they are essentially Australian. Forget where they where born. They even sound like Australians. They learnt their cricket in Australia.
Pietersen and Trott are South African. They learnt their craft in South Africa. They ditched us to play for England.
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SA have done the same with Imran Tahir, what is very clear with South Africa is that they don't need to pick overseas players as their own pool is more than strong enough.
It's easier to get a visa in England as opposed to SA and Aus (especially now with Gillard waving her wand) so that's the main reason we've always had more.
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SA have done the same with Imran Tahir, what is very clear with South Africa is that they don't need to pick overseas players as their own pool is more than strong enough.
It's easier to get a visa in England as opposed to SA and Aus (especially now with Gillard waving her wand) so that's the main we've always had more.
I never wanted Tahir to play for the Proteas. It was just damn wrong.
We have spinners like Robbie Peterson who can do a good job, yet we plumped for a guy Pakistan never even considered...
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I never wanted Tahir to play for the Proteas. It was just damn wrong.
We have spinners like Robbie Peterson who can do a good job, yet we plumped for a guy Pakistan never even considered...
Peterson looked good when he burst onto the scene years ago, his bowling has improved
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Chronologically:
Notts (or other county if Notts were not interested)
England
BBL
Natwest Secret Cricketer
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Big call coming from Netherlands cricket team there ;) :D
Yes fair point , but we didn't win the world cup either
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SA have done the same with Imran Tahir, what is very clear with South Africa is that they don't need to pick overseas players as their own pool is more than strong enough.
It's easier to get a visa in England as opposed to SA and Aus (especially now with Gillard waving her wand) so that's the main reason we've always had more.
Considering your population is massively larger as well and more to choose from you must have a lot of crap cricketers ;) :D
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Considering your population is massively larger as well and more to choose from you must have a lot of crap cricketers ;) :D
We do have a lot haha where have you been for the last 15 years? We've been crap until 6 years ago, most of our technically gifted and coordinated sportsmen are lost to the smaller games of football and rugby.
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Also a larger population doesn't mean better cricketers. A smaller stronger talent pool will outperform a larger pool with less talent. Otherwise the USA and Davion would be killing it.
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We do have a lot haha where have you been for the last 15 years? We've been crap until 6 years ago, most of our technically gifted and coordinated sportsmen are lost to the smaller games of football and rugby.
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Also a larger population doesn't mean better cricketers. A smaller stronger talent pool will outperform a larger pool with less talent. Otherwise the USA and Davion would be killing it.
I gave the game away for 10 of those crap years and only been back into it for the last 5 ;)
I'd also say the majority of the US population wouldn't have a clue what cricket is.
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The English mindset will always be our downfall, it generates characters like Ravi Bopara and Samit Patel that wince every time it gets tough. These players wouldn't get near the SA team.