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Title: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 16, 2014, 10:06:37 AM
So people's thoughts?

Afghanistan looking very, very average. Can't imagine they are any better if as good as a decent ECB premier league club.

Who's you favourite for the tournament? I can't see past Australia or West Indies.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 16, 2014, 10:08:13 AM
They are cr@p along with Hong Kong and Nepal and no better than ecb premier like you state.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on March 16, 2014, 10:14:04 AM
By the look of things, whoever has the most spinners will win this T20 World Cup.

I like an India v Sri Lanka final!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 16, 2014, 10:17:12 AM
I hope it's the West Indies, I just love the way those blokes bat with raw talent and natural flair.

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 16, 2014, 10:20:55 AM
Going to be turning square towards the end of this tournament.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 16, 2014, 10:52:57 AM
I don't expect Afghanistan to be great. But in the Asia cup they actually wasn't that bad. They did beat Bangladesh, and push Pakistan/India.



Bangladeshi keeper looks to have hurt his eye? Will they Not learn from bouchers accident? Put a helmet on, or atleast where safety specs like haddin.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 16, 2014, 10:58:25 AM
I think its about time the bails and stumps were drilled and have some sort of string connecting them. Would stop this from happening.

Even wearing a helmet doesnt prevent it from happening sometimes.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 16, 2014, 11:22:36 AM
Tethers could be interesting?

They just got to ensure it doesn't cause removal when not wanted.




Knowing the powers that be, either mandatory helmets, or not allowed within 3 foot of the stumps would be there solution.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 16, 2014, 11:25:51 AM
I hate not having English commentators.

"If you have 72 runs for your monthly budget, you cant buy something expensive"

In relation to a misfield!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 16, 2014, 11:55:46 AM
I hate not having English commentators.

"If you have 72 runs for your monthly budget, you cant buy something expensive"

In relation to a misfield!

I watch that much ipl, and the. Cricket on starlife okay(sky783), I must be used to it. Lol.

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on March 16, 2014, 11:57:45 AM
Did Sky send a team of commentators?

Maybe they will only commentate the 'big games'?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 16, 2014, 12:16:53 PM
Going to be turning square towards the end of this tournament.

21 games to be played here, on 3 pitches.

No need to play any fast bowlers looking at the conditions already.
Just shows how stupid it was of England not to select samit
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 16, 2014, 12:21:52 PM
What about playing dernbach as a spinner?


Buttler can stand up, he can steam in but aim to ball his slower ball every ball. Then chuck the odd quick one in for variety? Lol
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: uknsaunders on March 16, 2014, 12:39:45 PM
21 games to be played here, on 3 pitches.

No need to play any fast bowlers looking at the conditions already.
Just shows how stupid it was of England not to select samit

Samit needs to turn it first, he hasn't done that since 2008. Given the smacking he got in India he probably isn't top of the spin options - has to be KP :-)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 16, 2014, 12:40:06 PM
West Indies could be handy with marine, badder, Samuels and gator (if he can be bothered)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: uknsaunders on March 16, 2014, 12:42:35 PM
West Indies could be handy with marine, badder, Samuels and gator (if he can be bothered)

agree - the left arm quickie looks a good death bowler as does the leggie. If Pollard is fit they will be favourites in my book.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 16, 2014, 12:54:29 PM
agree - the left arm quickie looks a good death bowler as does the leggie. If Pollard is fit they will be favourites in my book.

Pollard is not gonna be fit.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Sam on March 16, 2014, 01:34:28 PM
Am I right in thinking the Afghan players appealed for a double hit/obstruction after lobbing the ball at Iqbal who was standing about a metre to the side of the stumps at the time  ????
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Alvaro on March 16, 2014, 02:00:41 PM
How many of these spinners actually turn it though Nick?
Samit can actually bat against the slow bowlers which puts him ahead of some in the squad, particularly luke wright.

In other news, Kumar Sangakkara has retired from t20i but will continue to warm benches in the franchise stuff. Is there any point in international T20?

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 16, 2014, 02:08:44 PM

In other news, Kumar Sangakkara has retired from t20i but will continue to warm benches in the franchise stuff. Is there any point in international T20?

Probably not as most teams rest, and chop and change players for t20 internationals. Which makes you think. What the point?


I'd scrap them, and make room not he calendar for the ipl, bbl and flt20(if they make it franchise based) to not clash with any tests/Odis, so the best in the world can commit  tot he entire tournaments.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: roco on March 16, 2014, 02:19:35 PM
Boards like t20 as brings cash in so doubt will go

I think (but hope not) odi will go before t20i
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Alvaro on March 16, 2014, 02:24:45 PM
Yes Roco,
But I bet that boards like the domestic stuff more than internationals.
ODIs are good for ad breaks.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Tumo on March 16, 2014, 02:37:01 PM
They are cr@p along with Hong Kong and Nepal and no better than ecb premier like you state.

Right, so Afghanistan turning over Bangladesh in the Asia cup was what, a colossal aligning of the planets? And taking Pakistan to the last ball of a T20 last year? Give it a rest. They're better than an ECB Prem side, no problems. Considering that 6 years ago they were down in the doldrums of the World Cricket Division 7 (or something about that level) I'd say that they're above that. Try following some of the associate cricketers on twitter, one (Rory Gribbell - French opening bowler) has been stating all day that Associate cricket is of a much higher standard than ECB Prems, and he's played both. Irfan Ahmed is clocking about 87mph, which I'm fairly sure is quicker than almost anything outside of professional/minor county cricket, and Hamid Hassan hits 85-90 usually. For a bloke who's supposed to have played a high level of cricket, you're showing a fair amount of ignorance on the subject of associate nations... Don't get me wrong, they can't compete with the full members every game, and they are just getting used to the big stage, but Sri Lanka didn't start overly well when they came into the test arena and look where they are now.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: roco on March 16, 2014, 03:04:22 PM
Yes Roco,
But I bet that boards like the domestic stuff more than internationals.
ODIs are good for ad breaks.

The boards that have high profile domestic tournaments yes but ecb don't so maybe if they improved that we might get it as after the new powers can't see ecb ok ing no t20i 
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 16, 2014, 03:47:56 PM
Right, so Afghanistan turning over Bangladesh in the Asia cup was what, a colossal aligning of the planets? And taking Pakistan to the last ball of a T20 last year? Give it a rest. They're better than an ECB Prem side, no problems. Considering that 6 years ago they were down in the doldrums of the World Cricket Division 7 (or something about that level) I'd say that they're above that. Try following some of the associate cricketers on twitter, one (Rory Gribbell - French opening bowler) has been stating all day that Associate cricket is of a much higher standard than ECB Prems, and he's played both. Irfan Ahmed is clocking about 87mph, which I'm fairly sure is quicker than almost anything outside of professional/minor county cricket, and Hamid Hassan hits 85-90 usually. For a bloke who's supposed to have played a high level of cricket, you're showing a fair amount of ignorance on the subject of associate nations... Don't get me wrong, they can't compete with the full members every game, and they are just getting used to the big stage, but Sri Lanka didn't start overly well when they came into the test arena and look where they are now.

I'm not showing ignorance I'm going by first hand experience over the last 10 years.

 I have played for 4 years in icc div 1/2 league and I found it the same as an ecb premier league.

I currently play in an icc div 4 country (last 5 years) and I can tell you right now my local leagues in England's best 11 would beat them.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: procricket on March 16, 2014, 04:39:10 PM
I played against Nepal in October and I can tell you there  a developing nation and there quality is that of a very decent  premier league side .

There better players are county class one or two of them are on the lords groundstaff.

Very good hosts too there younger. Better players to to india to play and train .
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 16, 2014, 05:02:25 PM
Cricket is quite a unique sport in that your average man off the street with a day job can play on the world stage. You will find that decent club cricketers were just unlucky and we're not in the right place at the right time in order to make it as a county pro.

They may then move to a foreign country with work and suddenly find themselves as a very good player locally with the ability to play on the world stage.

I think as time goes on this gap will shorten as the developing nations are taking their cricket a lot more seriously and getting better at a rapid rate.

I remember England beating turkey 8-0 in football in the 80's, 15 years later they were struggling to beat them. I think this will happen in cricket but to a lesser extent. Who would have thought holland would be England at cricket.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Howzat on March 16, 2014, 05:29:17 PM
Would be an interesting comparison to see Afghanistan in an ECB premier league for a season, personally I think they would come top by a mile. My club has a 20/20 game against Holland this year so if selected in that would be interesting to see the standard!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 16, 2014, 05:38:32 PM
Holland are decent.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: procricket on March 16, 2014, 05:50:18 PM
I have played a Dutch side made up of half the team and half development they where a different class that Dutch/Australian quick was playing he was very decent a cut above and so did Borren.

They are very very decent side better than a club side they have some serious full time cricketers.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: iand123 on March 17, 2014, 07:59:12 AM
Watched a bit of this yday. I think you could invent a new drinking game - a shot everytime the commentators mention "ICC World t20 cup hosted in Bangladesh" or "look at all the colour in crowd" you'd be half cut in 5 overs

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 17, 2014, 02:19:27 PM
Right, so Afghanistan turning over Bangladesh in the Asia cup was what, a colossal aligning of the planets? And taking Pakistan to the last ball of a T20 last year? Give it a rest. They're better than an ECB Prem side, no problems. Considering that 6 years ago they were down in the doldrums of the World Cricket Division 7 (or something about that level) I'd say that they're above that. Try following some of the associate cricketers on twitter, one (Rory Gribbell - French opening bowler) has been stating all day that Associate cricket is of a much higher standard than ECB Prems, and he's played both. Irfan Ahmed is clocking about 87mph, which I'm fairly sure is quicker than almost anything outside of professional/minor county cricket, and Hamid Hassan hits 85-90 usually. For a bloke who's supposed to have played a high level of cricket, you're showing a fair amount of ignorance on the subject of associate nations... Don't get me wrong, they can't compete with the full members every game, and they are just getting used to the big stage, but Sri Lanka didn't start overly well when they came into the test arena and look where they are now.

I dont want to say "I told you so" but read the following from the Hong Kong Captain ......


"We're training four or five times a week then playing games at the weekend," said Atkinson, who was born in Hong Kong  to English parents. "We can also get away on tour whenever we're needed."

Former Durham University student Atkinson likens the standard of Hong Kong's top cricket competition to that of club Premier League cricket in the UK.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 17, 2014, 02:30:09 PM
Anyone seen England's new kit? Orange!
Thought red looked like zim, but now looks like England are going for Netherlands.
Get back to blue!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 17, 2014, 03:05:59 PM
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2582584/England-Dutch-orange-kit-World-T20-outlook-bright-skipper-Stuart-Broad.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/cricket/article-2582584/England-Dutch-orange-kit-World-T20-outlook-bright-skipper-Stuart-Broad.html)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Howzat on March 17, 2014, 03:06:27 PM
I dont want to say "I told you so" but read the following from the Hong Kong Captain ......


"We're training four or five times a week then playing games at the weekend," said Atkinson, who was born in Hong Kong  to English parents. "We can also get away on tour whenever we're needed."

Former Durham University student Atkinson likens the standard of Hong Kong's top cricket competition to that of club Premier League cricket in the UK.
Aside from the fact we were talking about Afghanistan who are much stronger than Hong Kong... your 100% correct.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 17, 2014, 07:29:29 PM
I dont want to say "I told you so" but read the following from the Hong Kong Captain ......


"We're training four or five times a week then playing games at the weekend," said Atkinson, who was born in Hong Kong  to English parents. "We can also get away on tour whenever we're needed."

Former Durham University student Atkinson likens the standard of Hong Kong's top cricket competition to that of club Premier League cricket in the UK.

Hk's top cricket comp... Not their national team. That in theory should be the best of the league so in theory should smash ECB Prem teams.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 18, 2014, 10:14:17 AM
Couldn't England have chosen someone else to play another T20 warm up game against?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 18, 2014, 10:38:13 AM
I bet they wish they had. 4 down last time I looked.




Afghan are pretty shocking at this. Some of the fielding is hilarious
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FattusCattus on March 18, 2014, 11:15:15 AM
Englnad look to have stumbled to a pretty avergae score I'm guessing.

However, we shall see when WI bat.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 18, 2014, 11:30:41 AM
46 for 0 of 4 overs windies winning this easy
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Manormanic on March 18, 2014, 11:32:12 AM
not sure its gonna be that interesting of a tournament with the sluggish pitches!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Manormanic on March 18, 2014, 11:33:00 AM
not to mention the crappy England side!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FattusCattus on March 18, 2014, 11:35:18 AM
To be fair, the Windies must be making it interesting to watch.

Get the Ravinator on - he'll run through 'em!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 18, 2014, 11:40:52 AM
Its a tournament with pitches clearly helping spinners.


West Indies reach 69 half ways to the total. England have used 1 spinner and 3 seamers.

Brains trust off England earning there money well.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 18, 2014, 11:43:16 AM
Bresnan getting carted around as usual.
Bopara and treadwell really are saving England with the ball in recent games
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 18, 2014, 11:50:25 AM
On the bare highlights sky show, the pitch looks tiny,with the boundaries in so close.


Yet. Gayles running twos?





Also on the subject of 2914 wc and chucking bats. Shezhad of afghan has just skied one. Them smashed the pitch on a length with his bat like a Mong!
But then was dropped.

He wants kicking out of the tournament IMO. Shocking behaviour
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 18, 2014, 12:21:42 PM
Well that was embarrassing,

England annihilated,


Spin biased pitch,second spinner not bowled till over 11. Currently wicket taking spinenr(parry) not bowled till over 12,


Seemers annihilated, yet kept on. Baffling,
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: mattw on March 18, 2014, 12:28:43 PM
I've been saying for ages that Bresnan is NOT a T20i standard bowler. Too many predictable seamers in sub-continent conditions will never win this tournament.

However, the batting is the main issue here with only 1 six in the innings on what looked like a tiny ground.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FattusCattus on March 18, 2014, 12:34:21 PM
Looks like we came 3rd or 4th in that contest!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 18, 2014, 05:02:09 PM
I've been saying for ages that Bresnan is NOT a T20i standard bowler. Too many predictable seamers in sub-continent conditions will never win this tournament.

However, the batting is the main issue here with only 1 six in the innings on what looked like a tiny ground.

So he's not a test bowler.. Not a t20 bowler... Is he good enough at all?????
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 18, 2014, 05:34:04 PM
So he's not a test bowler.. Not a t20 bowler... Is he good enough at all?????
Probably not...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 19, 2014, 09:33:50 AM
Anybody else think it's wrong that when the "warm up" games of 15 a side are I a stadium with cameras, sky show that instead of the actuall qualifiers?


Yeah you can watch your choice on the red button, but my sky go app doesn't have the red button.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 19, 2014, 09:51:12 AM
Warm up games are more interesting than this qualifying rubbish.
They should have kept the format they had in the 07 t20 where all the top teams play each other.

Warner hit 65 of 26 balls against nz. Must be that small ground England played on last match
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Shamrock Cricket on March 19, 2014, 10:01:16 AM
I think its a disgrace that the warm up matches are shown ahead of the qualifiers. You can watch the big teams play most days of the week but the smaller teams only play now and again.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 19, 2014, 03:00:33 PM
Buffet bresnan strikes again at the death.
Perry's selection looks pointless if he's going to bowl in the 12th match every game.

Kohli's just class at the moment.
Must be a improvement for Dernbach to go under 10rpo
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: A-Swing-And-A-Miss on March 19, 2014, 04:03:47 PM
Moeen Ali playing a quality innings here. Taken the game away from England.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 19, 2014, 04:51:06 PM
New coach/captain, same tactics. Inflexible batting order. kept sending the left hander's against off spin.
Morgan's under pressure, not scored in a while. Oddly morgan said his bowlers bowled well at the death  ???
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 19, 2014, 05:02:54 PM
England very very poor. Trying to deflect this by wearing a ridicolous shirt!



Other games. West Indies win again(I believe they will win tournament)

Pakistan got hammered by South Africa(72all out) and Sa looked poor against aus,

Aus win, described as tight game. Yeah, finch retired on 47 of 22 balls, and Warner retired on 65 of 26 balls.
Would not have been tight had they batted the entire 20 overs!


Aus vs West Indies final?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 19, 2014, 05:05:03 PM
Giles out
Coaches out
Analysts out


ECB... Clarke says 'forget KP' etc and 'we pick the sides not you'... Unfortunately running cricket isn't like running a city bank you tool

Please England lose all games and go out in disgrace. ECB need no excuse to pretend to know best
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: cricketbadger on March 19, 2014, 09:56:24 PM
The bowlers didnt bowl too badly at the death, missed thr yorker length a few times but on a few occassions, notably Jordan bowled some crsacking yorkers that still squeezed away for 4's. And give the batsmen credit they ran very hard, bowlers didnt go for too many boundaries, and always gonna be a challenge bowling to a set Kohli and Dhoni

People are far far far too busy pointing out the negatives and slagging them off
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 21, 2014, 12:16:29 PM
What a chase by Netherlands. 14rpo! Got to feel for Ireland!
2 decent games by the minnows today
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on March 22, 2014, 09:40:22 AM
Dilshan hasn't played well for a very long time, that was a terrible shot against Steyn.

He looked rubbish in the BBL as well.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 09:44:27 AM
Dilshan hasn't played well for a very long time, that was a terrible shot against Steyn.

He looked rubbish in the BBL as well.

He's been past his best for a couple of years now
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 09:50:58 AM
He retired from tests to concentrate on t20 franchises. Then wasn't bought for the ipl.


His form is poor, and I believe he's in The Sri Lanka side for sentimental reasons.
And with sangakarra and jaywardene retiring, I bet they keep picking him too.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 10:01:43 AM
K Perera Seems a decent player. Some clean hitting for a small guy

Be interesting to watch Tahir's pies. Someone in the SA management has some stocks in him. Dreadful bowler
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: six and out on March 22, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
how good does Perera's bat sound!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 10:08:47 AM
England look a better shout with the ball than SA. SA too pace heavy and it's getting smashed.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on March 22, 2014, 10:11:59 AM
Agree, I am not sure this SAF team are going to do too well on these pitches.

With an in form NZ and of course an England side about to peak (hmmmm), SAF might be in trouble to get out of the Super 10 stage.

SAF should be glad they aren't in Group 2!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: six and out on March 22, 2014, 10:18:19 AM
i think it will be really interesting to see how much of a factor the dew is this evening.

apparently the England bowlers were practicing in the nets by dipping the ball in a bucket of water before bowling!

it might be a big factor on team selection, which sides have more evening games etc....
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 10:20:16 AM
Agree, I am not sure this SAF team are going to do too well on these pitches.

With an in form NZ and of course an England side about to peak (hmmmm), SAF might be in trouble to get out of the Super 10 stage.

SAF should be glad they aren't in Group 2!

England do have a good chance in this group but the NZ game will be close to a knockout team for both teams. Game will be decided on the toss with all that dew

To be fair SA have the batting, if ABD and miller fire they can chase anything. Don't think SL will bowl this much pace on this pitch.
Decent start by the pie chucker Tahir. That stupid celebration >:( As if he's won the game
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on March 22, 2014, 10:37:50 AM
Something is wrong with Tahir's pies today... they keep taking wickets
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 22, 2014, 10:59:15 AM
Am I the only one getting annoyed by spider cam showing the ball being bowled? I want to be able to see what's happening!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 11:01:46 AM
Am I the only one getting annoyed by spider cam showing the ball being bowled? I want to be able to see what's happening!

It's like that stupid camera angle they have when its a free hit. Pointless stuff...when you miss all the action
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: procricket on March 22, 2014, 11:12:56 AM
Got to just say the bat Angelo Matthews is using what a profile lovely
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 22, 2014, 11:34:50 AM
Am I the only one getting annoyed by spider cam showing the ball being bowled? I want to be able to see what's happening!

No! Its stupid. It seems to have come over from the Asia cup. Along with all the stupid strong zones and stuff.

'Batsman x's strong zone is a half volley/short and wide/on the legs. Well no (you know what) Sherlock!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 11:59:57 AM
Amla looks all at sea in the last few t20 games. Think he should have walked for that caught behind given how much he's struggling on a flat pitch.
Surely abd and miller need to come in
Run rate increasing with mendis and malinga to come
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on March 22, 2014, 12:05:20 PM
Duminy is having a red hot go... SAF are weird... why isn't ABD batting right now?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 12:14:45 PM
Abd already showing his class!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 12:22:07 PM
Is that a new helmet for de villiers? Suprised he kept the one with the ripped peak for so long!


Sri Lanka need wickets to win this, Sa going easily at mo.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 12:30:08 PM
How does Senanayake get away with a action like that?
Biggest chuck!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on March 22, 2014, 12:46:10 PM
Miller has faced 11 balls and needs new gloves?

Does he have some kind of sweating condition?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 22, 2014, 12:56:49 PM
How Village do Morkel's pads look??
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 12:58:57 PM
SA probably choked that game. A few stupid shots from abd and A morkel cost them the game.

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 01:02:38 PM
Abd in at 3 and SA would have won IMO.

Swap amla for Levi.........

Big six from Tahir at the end! Get him up the order. Lol
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 01:12:25 PM
Big six from Tahir at the end! Get him up the order. Lol

Surprised Tahir didn't have a big celebration for hitting the 6! What a let down.

Big dew! Massive toss for the England game, especially with the first game running so late.
Toss will probably determine the game.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 01:15:37 PM
Surprised Tahir didn't have a big celebration for hitting the 6! What a let down.

Big dew! Massive toss for the England game, especially with the first game running so late.
Toss will probably determine the game.

New Zealand win then??
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 01:19:19 PM
New Zealand win then??

Yup. Least the England management have an excuse for losing already.
Looks like Still no bell
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on March 22, 2014, 01:34:00 PM
Surely they could have held with t20 world cup at a time of the year when the dew isn't like rain?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 01:38:16 PM
You'd think that dew would be a deciding factor in when and where it's held. But cricket is run Ina. Baffling way.

Kp anyone?


No bell? Is he just there to help coach with collingwood? I wouldn't be suprised if kieswetter got a game before him.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 01:43:51 PM
You'd think that dew would be a deciding factor in when and where it's held. But cricket is run Ina. Baffling way.

Kp anyone?


No bell? Is he just there to help coach with collingwood? I wouldn't be suprised if kieswetter got a game before him.



To be fair dew isn't usually expected this time of year (I believe) and it only seems to be at this venue. It does make it easier for teams like nz and England who struggle against spin.
Bell should be playing instead of 1 of the bowlers, you don't need 5 specialist bowlers when you have bopara and ali


what a catch! C Anderson can do no wrong at the moment
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 01:45:49 PM
What are they doing to these batsmen.

Hales goes to world no1 smashing through the ball.

2years later he just prods at it??
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 22, 2014, 01:46:49 PM
England dugout look resigned to defeat already!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 22, 2014, 01:48:16 PM
2 slips in a T20 game, sums up what McCullum thinks of the English batting...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 01:56:37 PM
Classy hitting so far from Ali, proper cricket shots.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: beaver5 on March 22, 2014, 02:03:55 PM
Hales out of touch at the moment. Kieswetter is now a good back up if he can't find some form. Ali looking the class act he's been at Worcester for some time.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 02:11:18 PM
Ali hasnt been with england long enough. Theyll soon train the goodness out of him!


Decent powerplay, but now comes the spin!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 02:26:28 PM
Usual England after a good start on a flat pitch. Throw it away.
England are a batsmen light
 
Anderson can do no wrong!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 02:35:59 PM
Camera men have no clue at this tournament.


Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 22, 2014, 02:39:53 PM
Camera men have no clue at this tournament.
It's incredibly irritating, were a few "quirky" camera angles in the last game too!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 02:41:23 PM
Another one,

Why do our players charge at the ball, then stop on the shot?


SMASH IT!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 02:41:59 PM
Another failure for Morgan. Really is struggling recently
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Sam on March 22, 2014, 02:42:42 PM
It's incredibly irritating, were a few "quirky" camera angles in the last game too!

To be fair on that one where he stopped on the fielder where it went for 4 it was near impossible to tell if he stopped it or not.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 03:00:49 PM

170 looks par, big wicket of buttler
Again a batsman short England
Finally Jordan comes in ahead of bresnan! Progress
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 03:08:12 PM
Big mash from Jordan!



This may be controversial but we miss root!

Power play, go big! Yet when it ends, lumb, Ali, Morgan still looked to go aerial.
There only seems to be root that can manoeuvre it around on the floor in the England set up.

Everyone thinks big in t20, but making sure there no dot balls between end of power play and the last 4 big slog is just as important.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 22, 2014, 03:10:34 PM
Jordan gone, England limping towards the 20 over mark!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 22, 2014, 03:14:23 PM
Eng are poo. Sooner people demand the ecb's head the better.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 22, 2014, 03:15:25 PM
Corey Anderson dropping a worldie, wasn't expecting that!  :o
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 03:17:28 PM
Eng are poo. Sooner people demand the ecb's head the better.

Really I'd didn't know that was your view??




#blamekp
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 22, 2014, 03:19:17 PM
Really I'd didn't know that was your view??




#blamekp

Where is our best T20 player?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 03:19:23 PM
Nice cameo from Timothy!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 03:20:36 PM
Buffet bresnan got them to a par score.
Dernbach/Dernbach probably going to get carted on this pitch
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Sam on March 22, 2014, 03:21:15 PM
Where is our best T20 player?

Do you mean Ravi Bopara? He was just batting, you must have missed him...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 22, 2014, 03:23:32 PM
Do you mean Ravi Bopara? He was just batting, you must have missed him...

Umm bop is doing well.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 04:01:58 PM
Thunder bolts of lightning very very frightening indeed.



Interesting, as the earlier game went over schedule, and we may not finish this one? Do the before teams get an even bigger fine??
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 04:14:01 PM
Looks like they won't get back on. Toss made the difference ;)

England management to blame the dew and D/L.
Dernbach will take this game only went for 6.5rpo
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: jwebber86 on March 22, 2014, 04:19:51 PM
i think batting second is going to be the biggest advantage in the tournament
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 22, 2014, 04:36:41 PM
i think batting second is going to be the biggest advantage in the tournament

Didn't help the South Africans,
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 22, 2014, 05:49:34 PM
Broad blames the umpires for not going off earlier. Think he should look at the over he bowled which took the game away.
ECB continue to allow half fit players to play, international cricket isn't the place to get fit again from injury.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 22, 2014, 06:03:04 PM
Broad blames the umpires for not going off earlier. Think he should look at the over he bowled which took the game away.
ECB continue to allow half fit players to play, international cricket isn't the place to get fit again from injury.

But they are good lads and have 'team ethic' !! :) :)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: potzy248 on March 23, 2014, 12:35:31 AM
Eng lucky the rain came otherwise BMac would've made them fetch the ball from all parts.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tim2000s on March 23, 2014, 02:37:03 AM
However you look at it,  Duckworth Lewis is a measure of probability.  Sadly, what it does is use a Hawkeye approach on something where the information can stop at 0.25 of the length of the pitch,  which is what happened today for England.  Same for all teams but I'd agree it's not a good approach in a short game. 

Still,  the early overs really didn't help...

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Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 23, 2014, 10:22:55 AM
Aussies trying to make a game of this? 2 drops, free hits, 5 wds
Akmal bro's playing pretty well.

Aus going the SA way, bowling pace on a spinning track.
Hoggy really struggling. Surely lyon should be in this team? Even ABD struggled to hit him in the recent tests
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Steveo1000 on March 23, 2014, 10:29:48 AM
Stuart Broad and the England management complaining about not coming off before 5 overs due to the risk of lightening is frankly embarrassing.
If NZ had been 30 for 5 before 5 overs and then been taken off they would be going mental about it.
The chances of being struck by lightening is something like 1 in 700,000, and the comparisons with golf are ridiculous as the players have bits of metal in their hands and massive trees all over the place that attract lightening.
Have England got comical Ali in charge of PR? (Anyone under 30 might need to look that up)

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: joeljonno on March 23, 2014, 10:39:55 AM
Talking of lightening, we had a game a couple of years ago when the opposition were losing badly and their umpire took the players off. It wasn't raining but lightening only and about 10-15 miles in the distance. He said it is because of safety and he has known someone who got hit.

He then said we has to put the covers on, which are metal? 

Didn't care about is, just the result.

If the Aussies get off to a good start, will be interesting.


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Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 23, 2014, 11:08:37 AM
This aussie bowling line up has been pretty poor (even with Johnson) in recent games in the sub continent. Embarrassing letting a team like Pakistan score so much. Lots of length bowling and full tosses.

Even with the Aussie line up, they've got no chance of chasing this given how poor they are against spin.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on March 23, 2014, 11:12:47 AM
Boof will be hoping for lightening...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 23, 2014, 11:23:46 AM
I think that Pakistan are decent side, they bottled it against India, but good to see it didn't get to them and they've come back.
They batted well, especially umar, and although a few freebies were given you still gotta put em away,


Now let's see what Warner and finch can do in return,

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 23, 2014, 11:26:19 AM
Aussies on course for a hiding, they might already be out if their net rr takes a massive hit.
20 Overs of spin ;)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 23, 2014, 11:28:14 AM
Yeah not the start aussie wanted. Well bring on the gaylestorm at 1.30.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FattusCattus on March 23, 2014, 11:32:50 AM
There's a few chunky boys in this T20 - I like that!

Doug the Rug looks like a big chubby lug and the Pak left arm spinner looks like he has a nice moon face.

Whilst on the subject of him, it's an interesting whirl of arms before delivery, I'll bet he takes a bit of getting used to!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 23, 2014, 11:48:25 AM
Who needs warner and Watson when maxwell can hit like that. Some serious hitting power.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Sam on March 23, 2014, 11:55:39 AM
Decent signing for Hampshire next season ;).
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: PM7 on March 23, 2014, 11:55:57 AM
The Big Show smashes 30 runs of Bhattis over, dont miss the highlights tonight lads, this special.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 23, 2014, 11:56:12 AM
Wasn't maxwell called a clubbie in a recent thread? Lol good watch so far.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on March 23, 2014, 12:12:58 PM
I may have insulted the Big Show in a previous thread... but only because I think he is a (No Swearing Please)...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 23, 2014, 12:19:59 PM
Big show gone, and aus now struggling.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on March 23, 2014, 12:24:13 PM
The world has righted itself.  I am relieved.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 23, 2014, 12:26:39 PM
So that's how you play saeed ajmal.

Run to leg, and toe end it down to third man. Like a pool player......




Afridis googly baffles told goerge
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 23, 2014, 12:27:38 PM
Looks a different game without maxwell. Aus doing what SA did yesterday.
Surprised Steve smith is not in this team, let alone the squad.
Bailey's knock might have cost them the game
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 23, 2014, 12:44:35 PM
The fat lady sings.......
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: beaver5 on March 23, 2014, 12:46:58 PM
I'm not usually a fan of theirs, but come on Pakistan!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 23, 2014, 12:55:59 PM
Aussies fall well short. Never in doubt  :-[.

Next game could be a high scoring game on this pitch
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: roco on March 23, 2014, 02:10:34 PM
What is smith doing!!

Get your eye in yes but got to do something special for him to make this up

Putting pressure on gayle to hit big
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 23, 2014, 02:20:17 PM
Even if gayle fires, you think West Indies will only get a par score now (160).
Really odd first 10 overs, India have bowled well.
Think West Indies were shell shocked by the movement upfront.


Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: roco on March 23, 2014, 02:36:12 PM
Building too much pressure

Then run out your biggest hitter with suicidal run
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 23, 2014, 02:47:12 PM
West Indies might just find themselves already out of the tournament if India knock this off quickly.
West Indies have always been poor against spin and struggle to take singles. They did lose against Ireland last month so don't know why they were rated as favourites especially in this group
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 24, 2014, 10:29:17 AM
Freak dismissal or what? Unlucky amla!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 24, 2014, 10:58:46 AM
Duminy rescues SA 86 of43 was a great innings,


Can nz chase down 170??
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 24, 2014, 01:00:58 PM
Brilliant bowling from steyn!
But have to say what was Nathan McCullum doing in that final over.

Nz throw that one away to throw open this group. England won't mind that result
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FvanN on March 24, 2014, 01:09:08 PM
 What a final over :D has there been one as good thus far in T20 cricket?
 
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 24, 2014, 02:36:50 PM
What a farce from holland.
More pointless records for Sri Lanka against minnows. Makes a joke of records, games against minnows surely shouldn't count in the record books.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 24, 2014, 05:40:09 PM
What a farce from holland.
More pointless records for Sri Lanka against minnows. Makes a joke of records, games against minnows surely shouldn't count in the record books.


You can't really blame Sri Lanka, they just play who they are drawn against,

And Netherlands did earn there qualification,
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 25, 2014, 02:08:25 PM
Anyone else think gayle is costing the windies? He'd ant run or get it off. Square at mo,

17 from 25.


I'm one of his biggest fans, but he does not look himself at mo
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: mattw on March 25, 2014, 02:11:55 PM
Anyone else think gayle is costing the windies? He'd ant run or get it off. Square at mo,

17 from 25.


I'm one of his biggest fans, but he does not look himself at mo

You've got to keep him in there for those magic moments where he'll win the game for you alone.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 25, 2014, 02:16:29 PM
You've got to keep him in there for those magic moments where he'll win the game for you alone.

But you could argue him and smith not taking singles and walking ones when two was available already cost them vs India,

Thankfully smith is firing, but say Bangladesh win in the last over? Gaylestorm inability to run could knock them out do the tournament?

His talent then scoring a ton in a non game when already out isn't gonna do much?




I do hope I'm wrong and he finishes in the 70s/80s
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 25, 2014, 02:23:54 PM
He has a bad knee
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 25, 2014, 02:25:22 PM
Gayle's been out of form for quite a while now, he had a horrible tour of India and West Indies.
England just bowled poorly to him, that's why he scored a few runs in that series.

Surely bravo should bat higher since he can rotate the strike

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 25, 2014, 02:28:51 PM
While gayle is in I'd have sent Sammy in, there just walking singles, so might aswell have a bully at both ends!



I'd say what was Simmons doing, but I did something similar last season.........oops
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 25, 2014, 03:29:21 PM
How long till santokie is a left arm spinner. He gets some good turn!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 25, 2014, 04:41:57 PM
How many drops this tournament so far by all teams. Think England the only ones not to have dropped one
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 10:41:02 AM
Controversial but. Are SA chocking?


Big emphasis on that the runrate gained against Netherlands will be crucial in who qualifys from this group,

Sri Lanka brushed them aside with ease.

SA are 120for 6 of 16 overs and down to the bowlers.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 10:51:42 AM
133 for 8 11 balls left. Netherlands will be pleasantly happy at this.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 27, 2014, 10:55:44 AM
Bloke is bowling under 70mph and no one can play him!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 10:58:59 AM
Yep  he bamboozled millar then.


Seems the way, bowl slower balls and cutters and use the quicker one as the change,


Maybe dernbach could Do well in this tournament.........
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 11:00:28 AM
Score doesn't look bad on this pitch. Getting slower, lower and turning.
Few interesting decisions by SA to demote duminy after his man of the match last game
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 27, 2014, 11:08:03 AM
I think dernbach is beyond help

I think the score is low but SA will still win
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 27, 2014, 11:10:43 AM
Anybody tell me why Albie Morkal gets promoted above Duminy and Miller?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 11:18:11 AM
I agreement it's still SA game. But it may cost them when/if run rates become the deciding factors in the table.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 11:24:53 AM
Holland off to a quick start.
Surprised steyn didn't open, why would you waste a new ball on albie.

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 11:34:04 AM
Looks like holland looking to improve their net run rate instead
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Jenko on March 27, 2014, 11:36:47 AM
Just turned it on. Go the Netherlands!!! Awesome. What's going on with Steyn's haircut? Looks like he had a run in with a rampant lawn mower
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Nmcgee on March 27, 2014, 11:40:31 AM
Jeez..I hope the Dutch can keep this going. And an old UNSW boy in Cooper still to come.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 11:41:36 AM
Rumours are steyn is from north koreo abd has to abide by the new rule that all men have the leaders haircut!


Less than a run a ball for the dutch
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 27, 2014, 11:44:46 AM
If myburgh goes soon I think they will mess it up
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 11:46:35 AM
Baresis hell 4 leather pings! Big 6.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 12:09:04 PM
Morkel 5 from 11 and now bowling filth. He does play for Csk ;).

Holland can't lose this now.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 12:09:37 PM
Sa need wickets. Netherlands cruising at mo!


Big shock.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 12:17:46 PM
Maybe they can lose it from here.
2 wickets in 3 balls.
Looks a long way away now
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 12:20:11 PM
Sa are getting there wickets and there gifts!

 A stupid criss bat. And a dude so scared he ducked a length ball from steyn. Would have been a close lbw if it hadnt hit his glove!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 12:22:16 PM
Village cricket from holland now.
Should have just batted out the overs.

Teams making Tahir look like ajmal is bowling
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Twelfth Man on March 27, 2014, 12:23:56 PM
Netherlands making a meal of this. From being very comfortable they now look like they're going to throw it all away after a few overs of Tahir's leggies. Would love them to still win, 26 off 33 with three wickets remaining and only tailenders left is a big ask though
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 12:28:52 PM
2 wickets or 21 runs. Gutted but i think its sa game now deffo(i pray to be wrong
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 12:39:58 PM
Stupid shot when still needing less than a run a ball.

1 wicket  left. 12 runs needed. 14 balls remain.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Twelfth Man on March 27, 2014, 12:48:03 PM
(http://www.simpsoncrazy.com/content/pictures/family/HomerStranglesBart1.gif)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 12:50:08 PM
Holland threw that one away.
2 games that SA have been lucky in. England would have hoped they lost.

Time for another d/n game to be decided on the toss with heavy dew coming later.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kulli on March 27, 2014, 12:51:00 PM
Jeez, looks like you guys all handle pressure well.

We're talking about most likely amateur cricketer who bat 9,10 and jack on the verge of beating the best side in the world, in a world cup, of course they are likely to have a few brain farts.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 12:56:08 PM
Surprised the ump didn't get man of the match with that shocking 'lbw'. Probably a game changer that was
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Twelfth Man on March 27, 2014, 01:01:42 PM
It's a shame, I reckon every non SA guy was backing Netherlands there. Still, put on a mighty good effort - and a better one than most of us would put up at that
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 01:02:33 PM
Big toss for England to win there.
5 bowlers again  ???
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FvanN on March 27, 2014, 01:07:09 PM
Don't even know what to say about that game, Seems my boys are the luckiest team in the competition at the moment. Just hope it holds till the end.

Feel for the Netherlands thou as I love it when a small playing nation beats on of the big boys.. Just not SA...

Now just need England to turn Sri Lanka over to throw the group wide open.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 27, 2014, 01:28:23 PM
im contemplating plonking £100 on sri lanka here to return £165 (including stake) ...... wise or not?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: TangoWhiskey on March 27, 2014, 01:28:48 PM
Alot of our 'english guys' not singing the anthem. Particularly not a fan of Morgan not even opening his mouth. If that's the way he feels he's more than welcome to go back and play for Ireland.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 01:31:11 PM
im contemplating plonking £100 on sri lanka here to return £165 (including stake) ...... wise or not?

Not with the dew or potential d/l if storms suddenly arrive
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 27, 2014, 01:31:46 PM
surely england will somehow cock it up
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 01:32:54 PM
Alot of our 'english guys' not singing the anthem. Particularly not a fan of Morgan not even opening his mouth. If that's the way he feels he's more than welcome to go back and play for Ireland.

Not just today, never seen Morgan even sing it (even when he was captain). Got to agree with you, even Dernbach sings it!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 01:39:03 PM
surely england will somehow cock it up

Potentially 2 down already. Hope you didn't place it
Great catch by lumb.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 27, 2014, 01:39:29 PM
Not out, decision taking too long for it to be given!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 27, 2014, 01:40:44 PM
Knew that was coming.
Not the right decision though, robbed of a wicket! (After the first dodgy one, so things even out I guess)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 01:41:17 PM
Steve Davis is really a poor umpire. He's done this far too many times as a 3rd umpire. Did it in the West Indies last month too
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 01:41:37 PM
Definately out! There was nothing to suggest otherwise,


Two shocking decisions, but atleast the first was made at full speed, not sure what excuse the television ump had other than bottling it, or maybe evening things up.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 27, 2014, 01:43:25 PM
Cannon fodder is on, pressure about to be released
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 27, 2014, 01:44:55 PM
Dilshan getting his eye in then!  :o
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 01:54:46 PM
Bellllll sniffffff
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 01:54:55 PM
Shocking drop by Dernbach.
Jayawardne for a 100 now?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 01:58:55 PM
How many drops this tournament so far by all teams. Think England the only ones not to have dropped one

Looks like I jinxed them earlier  :-[.
Must be a reason for all the drops this tournament.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 27, 2014, 02:03:02 PM
are sri lanka on course for a good score here?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 02:04:46 PM
Looks like I jinxed them earlier  :-[.
Must be a reason for all the drops this tournament.

56 dropped catches this tournament!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 02:06:06 PM
are sri lanka on course for a good score here?

Looks like it, they have the rub of the green. But dilshan struggling
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tim2000s on March 27, 2014, 02:08:11 PM
Looks like I jinxed them earlier  :-[.
Must be a reason for all the drops this tournament.
Has to be something to do with the lights and the ground backgrounds causing the issues.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 02:11:14 PM
Make that 57........
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 02:11:34 PM
56 dropped catches this tournament!

Make that 57!! Shocking
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 02:12:26 PM
Has to be something to do with the lights and the ground backgrounds causing the issues.

Maybe also the dew on the ball. Making it like a bar of soap
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: MD2812 on March 27, 2014, 02:15:02 PM
Make that 57!! Shocking

Is that the actual figure or one picked out the air?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 02:18:47 PM
Is that the actual figure or one picked out the air?

Correct figure. Think it includes the preliminary games though
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: fasteddie on March 27, 2014, 02:25:15 PM
England are village. Very poor team.

Good in parts, but the team is poor. They will lose all but the Dutch who will run them very close.

Is it down to the lack of experience in the coaching department? Giles a shoo-in? I think not.

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 02:32:41 PM
Is that the actual figure or one picked out the air?


The coverage showed the stat of 56 dropped catches, bresnan has dropped one since.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: thecord on March 27, 2014, 02:34:23 PM
Matches like this one highlight why Stuart Broad is for me a poor choice of captain, no encouragement for his team, just seems to be sulking
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 02:42:14 PM
This third umpire stuff gets on my tits.

Jordan clearly signalled six, so give six and move on. Why they need to dad about with 14 replies and super slow mo's?


I'd say go back to run outs only for 3rd umps, everything else on field I pores make the decision,
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 02:48:26 PM
Make that 57!! Shocking

58!
They really want jayawardne to get that 100 don't they
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: petehosk on March 27, 2014, 02:49:02 PM
I can't tell you how relieved I am that I got rid of Sky Sports channels - that way I can't the painful way England are 'playing' cricket!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FattusCattus on March 27, 2014, 02:51:33 PM
We are going to get reamed with the ball here. I hope we can bat like champions!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: TangoWhiskey on March 27, 2014, 02:52:18 PM
The dropped catches must have something to do with the backgrounds or the lights. I have never seen professional cricketers miss the ball by so much. That last one missed Bresnan's hands by about a foot!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: justnotcricket86 on March 27, 2014, 02:53:06 PM
I can't tell you how relieved I am that I got rid of Sky Sports channels - that way I can't the painful way England are 'playing' cricket!

England haven't played cricket since August 2013 mate, you've not missed much
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Rob580 on March 27, 2014, 02:55:34 PM
Now I really dislike Bopara, but seriously, he's been our best T20 bowler for some time now and he's not even had a bowl on this slow, low track? Madness. Absolute madness.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 03:00:29 PM
Now I really dislike Bopara, but seriously, he's been our best T20 bowler for some time now and he's not even had a bowl on this slow, low track? Madness. Absolute madness.

Have to agree with you, England even watched the last match yet missed that Dutch bowler was bowling at 70mph and took 5 wickets.
Poor captaincy just bowling the medium pacers who all bowl at the same speed. Pretty shocking over rate too.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 27, 2014, 03:00:45 PM
Bopara is out best limited bowler we have not just the best T20 bowler at the moment.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FattusCattus on March 27, 2014, 03:04:48 PM
I haven't looked recently, but Moeen only had one over, whilst the same old seamers were getting battered.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: fasteddie on March 27, 2014, 03:05:11 PM
"This has been a spirited performance by England but an incompetent one. They are going to be chasing 180 minimum." Vic Marks. BBC website.

Incompetence which starts at the manager/coach with bad plans and team selection.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Giraffe208 on March 27, 2014, 03:07:19 PM
I haven't looked recently, but Moeen only had one over, whilst the same old seamers were getting battered.
I just thought the same thing! Didn't he only bowl 1 over in the last game for not too many aswell?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: petehosk on March 27, 2014, 03:17:27 PM
Sri Lanka should declare as England won't chase that down!! Judging by the commentary, England have been generous in their fielding and catching....so Sri Lanka should return the favour by declaring!  ;)
Also, drop Dernbach or Bresnan and play Bell or another batsman! Bopara and Ali would bowl overs so not short!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: justnotcricket86 on March 27, 2014, 03:18:52 PM
It's probably been discussed, but why hasn't Carbs been picked for this tournament? He was out there as well, considering how class he is in T20.

Complete mystery. Poor bloke doesn't stand a chance anymore. What does he have to do?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tim2000s on March 27, 2014, 03:23:17 PM
I don't really understand why Ravi and Moeen haven't really bowled ???

Or why we haven't got a proper batsman (Bell fattuscattus for those wondering) playing...?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 03:24:21 PM
Slowest over rate ever? 10 overs per hour is just ridiculous. All the coaching staff and back room staff and the players don't know where to field. Meetings every ball about bowling plans.

59 drops!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 03:27:26 PM
Buffet bresnan strikes again at the death. Such a rubbish bowler, yet gets called a death specialist
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: petehosk on March 27, 2014, 03:27:59 PM
The England Squad selection, team selection and coach/management is completely messed up right now, so no chance that the likes of KP, Carbs or anyone else will be considered!
Until things change, I can only see a downhill trip from here!  :o
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: MD2812 on March 27, 2014, 03:29:39 PM
Bloody hell we couldn't catch a cold!

The umpire decision will be blamed, Broad will have to chose his words wisely. Wouldn't be surprised if when asked about he he replies "no comment"

Can't get angry at a umpiring decision if you drop everything afterwards....
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: MD2812 on March 27, 2014, 03:30:52 PM
https://twitter.com/CricketMirror/status/449198581359333376
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tim2000s on March 27, 2014, 03:31:06 PM
Still, if there's one upside, it has to be that Giles is unlikely to get the full England Coach job... :D
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Maverick79 on March 27, 2014, 03:31:36 PM
The England Squad selection, team selection and coach/management is completely messed up right now, so no chance that the likes of KP, Carbs or anyone else will be considered!
Until things change, I can only see a downhill trip from here!  :o

I'd add the ECB themselves to that list
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: petehosk on March 27, 2014, 03:32:47 PM
190 to win? Seriously?
We will struggle to get to 160!!

As all my video games used to say in my teenage years....GAME OVER!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Danny1981 on March 27, 2014, 03:35:53 PM
Just got home,checked the score...190!!!! This should be fun
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on March 27, 2014, 03:42:29 PM
Lumb gone with the score on 0

Then Moeen gone first ball
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 03:43:00 PM
What an absolute joke.

Good night all.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 27, 2014, 03:44:06 PM
get your cash on england to lose every game.

can get yourself a new bat :)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: MD2812 on March 27, 2014, 03:45:51 PM
How many T20 innings have started with a double wicket maiden?

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: MD2812 on March 27, 2014, 03:47:02 PM
get your cash on england to lose every game.

can get yourself a new bat :)

a £200 new bat, if you put a £600 stake down.....
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: fasteddie on March 27, 2014, 03:47:50 PM
The England Squad selection, team selection and coach/management is completely messed up right now, so no chance that the likes of KP, Carbs or anyone else will be considered!
Until things change, I can only see a downhill trip from here!  :o

I started a thread saying something similar when Colly was appointed and Giles was plumped as the Test coach.
It's proving the point.

The ECB should get the best coaches and not just the 'good ole boys'.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: fasteddie on March 27, 2014, 03:49:01 PM
a £200 new bat, if you put a £600 stake down.....

that's a 30% gain within a couple of hours from an almost risk free bet. I'll take that!


Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: alexhilly1492 on March 27, 2014, 03:50:14 PM
is eoin morgan wearing the hideous new masuri?? also 0-2 off 1 is atrocious!! luckily hales is batting ok for now
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 03:50:51 PM
You know when England have hit a all time low when sub continent bowlers are getting the ball to move around, yet England got nothing. Can't remember the last time they've looked to swing the white ball, apart from those pointless "odi's" that are played on green tops in September.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Maverick79 on March 27, 2014, 03:53:32 PM
Might as well send the coaching and backroom staff out for a game. Can't do any worse and if the Ashes were anything to go by, we'd have more than enough for a side  :D
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 27, 2014, 04:36:26 PM
they are 1.6
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 04:45:36 PM
Just the big over England needed. brilliant hitting from hales!
Malinga still got a big part to play
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Sam on March 27, 2014, 04:46:35 PM
What an absolute joke.

Good night all.

He's going to be kicking himself when he wakes up...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 04:56:56 PM
He's going to be kicking himself when he wakes up...

Dam what i miss??

I wake up and morgan puts it down someones throat..... should i go back to sleep?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 04:57:26 PM
Still time for England to lose from a winning position
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Sam on March 27, 2014, 04:59:26 PM
Dam what i miss??

I wake up and morgan puts it down someones throat..... should i go back to sleep?

Wouldn't quite call that partnership a joke mate ;).
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 05:05:13 PM
Bopara the finisher ;) smashing malinga in the key over
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 05:11:17 PM
Well batted alex hales. Take a bow that man!!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: charliemott on March 27, 2014, 05:12:18 PM
ESPN Cric info is keeping me in the office! :(
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: petehosk on March 27, 2014, 05:16:21 PM
190 to win? Seriously?
We will struggle to get to 160!!

As all my video games used to say in my teenage years....GAME OVER!!

I WAS WRONG.........PLONKER!  :(
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 05:17:05 PM
Finished in STYLE!
Brilliant from Hales
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 27, 2014, 05:17:15 PM
Aint cricket a funny old game.


Well done england, proved me to be a plonker.

Well batted hales. Well batted morgan.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: TangoWhiskey on March 27, 2014, 05:17:22 PM
I wonder what odds you would have got on England to win at 0-2?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Ryan on March 27, 2014, 05:19:13 PM
Stunning innings by Hales and Morgan, what a turn round from the first over when we were two down for no run.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cover_Drive on March 27, 2014, 05:19:24 PM
Finest innings ever while chasing a target, terrific really!

Hail Hales!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: jamesisapayne on March 27, 2014, 05:20:50 PM
Wow. Serious hitting under pressure. Great game to listen to!

Well done England!!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: petehosk on March 27, 2014, 05:21:11 PM
I'm in shock! We were 0 runs with 2 wickets down after the first over....and then we win from there!
Who kidnapped England and replaced them with Terminator robots?

Well batted Morgs and Hales! I can't quite believe it as we always fall on our arses usually! But I was wrong when I said Game Over!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 27, 2014, 05:34:34 PM
I wonder what odds you would have got on England to win at 0-2?

6/1
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 05:38:54 PM
6/1

Hope you didn't get burned. Told you the dew factor would play a part.
Toss continues to play a major part in D/N games.

A WC that will be decided on the flip of a coin
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: TangoWhiskey on March 27, 2014, 05:39:46 PM
6/1

Oh really? I guess the bookies know their stuff better than I do, I would have offered twenties or more!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: jwebber86 on March 27, 2014, 05:47:41 PM
i was nice to see lumb and ali sacrifice their wickets trying to get on top of the run rate :)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Danny1981 on March 27, 2014, 05:54:41 PM
Absolutely fantasy innings by both Hales and Morgan
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: mattw on March 27, 2014, 05:55:19 PM
Anyone see Broad peeling some stickers off a bat? Unfortunately I couldn't pause it to get a good look at it but if anyone's got it recorded it would be good to see what bat he was pulling the stickers off as he looked very guilty when the cameras caught him.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 27, 2014, 06:12:35 PM
Fortunately I decided to not bother, was still recovering from my £100 on South Africa after their innings. Only won £30!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: fasteddie on March 27, 2014, 06:16:19 PM
Bonkers, as Mick Mcarthy would put it. Utter bonkers!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Danny1981 on March 27, 2014, 06:20:13 PM
Anyone see Broad peeling some stickers off a bat? Unfortunately I couldn't pause it to get a good look at it but if anyone's got it recorded it would be good to see what bat he was pulling the stickers off as he looked very guilty when the cameras caught him.
I'm sure it was his malmaison sticker
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Sam on March 27, 2014, 06:24:12 PM
as he looked very guilty when the cameras caught him.

I thought the exact same thing at the time  :D. Just that kind of freeze and stare moment where you can just think someone's doing something they aren't supposed to be.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on March 27, 2014, 07:03:31 PM
Terrific games today.Hope all games are close. Great for cricket and great for viewers.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: joeljonno on March 27, 2014, 07:05:50 PM
Didn't see it as I recently swapped Sky Sports for an iPhone.

However it sounded like a cracker.


Good to see the 'good ole boys' getting the management right at the top and proving that KP is not the be all and end all.

:-)


Sent from my iPhone 5S using Tapatalk
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 27, 2014, 07:16:46 PM

Good to see the 'good ole boys' getting the management right at the top and proving that KP is not the be all and end all.


Not sure one top class innings from Hales means they don't miss KP and the management is right. Still, good win and good game.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 27, 2014, 08:47:24 PM
Not sure one top class innings from Hales means they don't miss KP and the management is right. Still, good win and good game.

It's hard to contemplate England not missing KP
(http://i1206.photobucket.com/albums/bb450/CPye061194/ScreenShot2014-03-27at204515_zpsc2d1ce32.png) (http://s1206.photobucket.com/user/CPye061194/media/ScreenShot2014-03-27at204515_zpsc2d1ce32.png.html)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 27, 2014, 09:50:47 PM
just watching the england game as hales did well.. im half way through and my god england were shocking int he field!!!!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 27, 2014, 10:07:58 PM
Tomorrow's game looks like it will be interesting, a bit of bad blood between Aus and West Indies. Looks like Faulkner's already started: http://www.espncricinfo.com/world-t20/content/current/story/731663.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/world-t20/content/current/story/731663.html)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on March 28, 2014, 02:02:09 AM
Tomorrow's game looks like it will be interesting, a bit of bad blood between Aus and West Indies. Looks like Faulkner's already started: [url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/world-t20/content/current/story/731663.html[/url] ([url]http://www.espncricinfo.com/world-t20/content/current/story/731663.html[/url])


Go Windies!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 09:19:45 AM
59m boundary! Good luck to the bowlers today. Could be carnage.
Aussies given up on hoggy already, leggy's playing
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Jenko on March 28, 2014, 09:26:27 AM
What a joke....59 metre boundary!!!

Muirhead will go alright hopefully. They should have given Hogg another game though I think
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 09:33:12 AM
Warner was practising right handed in the warm ups for that 59m.
Probably a knock out game this one
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 28, 2014, 09:42:11 AM
Vic nic will be happy.

Finch with the old masuri/shrey helmet on.

no new style so for far the aus biysm

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 09:58:05 AM
Have to say both openers have thrown their wickets away after a good start
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 28, 2014, 09:59:20 AM
And now watson too
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Aussies struggling against spin. They still can't play it.
Narine's probably going to run through them.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Jenko on March 28, 2014, 10:03:15 AM
Yeah not sure why you would try to cut a ball off middle stump
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 10:18:56 AM
Got to love the way maxwell bats. Just keep swinging the bat.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 28, 2014, 10:44:43 AM
Got to say. As it stands I really don't see what Andre Russell brings to this WI side. He's not a good enough bowler. Usually goes for double figures an over and only picks up the odd tail enders wickets. Career economy of 9.28.

And averages 11 with the bat with a highscore of 24*.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: mattw on March 28, 2014, 10:48:10 AM
Got to say. As it stands I really don't see what Andre Russell brings to this WI side. He's not a good enough bowler. Usually goes for double figures an over and only picks up the odd tail enders wickets. Career economy of 9.28.

And averages 11 with the bat with a highscore of 24*.

He was a very average player in the Worcestershire T20 side last year, for someone not to make an impact in our domestic T20 comp to be playing in the World Cup for the holders is a bit strange. Very uninspiring overseas signing.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Jenko on March 28, 2014, 10:58:49 AM
Not sure the Aussies have enough runs on the board. However runs are runs and they still have to be chased.

Am pretty over hearing gangnam style playing over the PA, surely there is something better to play!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: mattw on March 28, 2014, 11:01:31 AM
Is Santonkie the biggest find in the competition so far? He's come from nowhere and most batsmen are struggling to get him aware and failing to pick his slower ball.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 11:07:46 AM
Is Santonkie the biggest find in the competition so far? He's come from nowhere and most batsmen are struggling to get him aware and failing to pick his slower ball.

To be fair to him he's been the best bowler at the in the CPL for a while. Just not been given the chance.
As pollard said last week everyone's struggled to hit him in the CPL apart from pollard who hit him 28 in a over.

As for russel he bowled decent Yorkers in the England series
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 28, 2014, 11:13:03 AM
Is Santonkie the biggest find in the competition so far? He's come from nowhere and most batsmen are struggling to get him aware and failing to pick his slower ball.

I really do hope he proves me wrong but I give him 12-18 months before international players learn how to play him and he becomes cannon fodder. A bit like Mendis. When he first came on the scene he was unplayable and everyone thought he would be the next big thing. Now people know how to play him and he's someone teams target, even in sub-continent conditions.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Jenko on March 28, 2014, 11:31:34 AM
Geez it's good watching Gayle in full flight. And I'm an Aussie! Gayle teeing off and Steyn tearing in are two of the best things to watch I reckon
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 11:40:16 AM
This game could be over very quickly if gayle continues. Just makes you wonder what he was doing last match.

Will they chuck the leggie the ball
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 28, 2014, 11:40:25 AM
Haddin with two errors(although first one was a difficult chance)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 12:17:16 PM
And the leggie gets the big man. Should have got him on earlier
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: mattw on March 28, 2014, 12:32:11 PM
And the leggie gets the big man. Should have got him on earlier

I've been very impressed with Muirhead - watched a bit of him in the BBL on Sky Sports and he looks like a very good leggie who rips it at times. However his best asset is to be able to consistently land it in the right spot.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 12:36:19 PM
West Indies seem to have got the batting order wrong. Sammy should have been in instead of Samuels.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ThatDriver on March 28, 2014, 12:56:53 PM
West Indies probably the best team to watch, when they win. The celebrations are just fantastic.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 28, 2014, 12:58:17 PM
Come on windies. There sticking it to Faulkner with them celebrations! Haha. Love it.



3 awesome games In a row from this World Cup. Fantastic.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 12:59:39 PM
What a finish from Sammy!
 Sammy has the last laugh after faulkner's prematch comments  :D


Aussie bowling has been pretty pathetic recently on the subcontinent and today's no different.

Aussies all but out now
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tim2000s on March 28, 2014, 01:00:08 PM
I seem to remember there being a lot of Sammy haters on here not so long ago!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on March 28, 2014, 01:05:08 PM
Sammy does it again...great game...awesome finish!!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: MD2812 on March 28, 2014, 01:08:20 PM
http://www.espncricinfo.com/womens-world-t20/engine/match/682987.html (http://www.espncricinfo.com/womens-world-t20/engine/match/682987.html)

1 sided game from Womens cricket.

Bhangladesh ladies run rate of 2.9.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FvanN on March 28, 2014, 01:13:37 PM
I seem to remember there being a lot of Sammy haters on here not so long ago!

Yip and then there were the Ravi haters too... Silly people...  :)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 01:14:33 PM
Probably the best game of the tournament so far.
Massive mistake to not play Hogg


Next games probably going to be a downer unless b'desh win the toss. Nope looks like dhoni win's another toss, game over
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FvanN on March 28, 2014, 01:16:59 PM
Probably the best game of the tournament so far.
Massive mistake to not play Hogg


Next games probably going to be a downer unless b'desh win the toss. Nope looks like dhoni win's another toss, game over

Even better than yesterdays two humdingers?? 
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 01:17:35 PM
Think this one is for Faulkner by gayle: "When you come to shoot - shoot, Don't TALK!! #Beng
"
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 01:21:04 PM
Even better than yesterdays two humdingers??

Wasn't the greatest cricket in them two games, poor umpiring, dropped catches, plenty of dew and both teams had a pathetic over rate.
This one was better I think
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FvanN on March 28, 2014, 01:25:21 PM
Wasn't the greatest cricket in them two games, poor umpiring, dropped catches, plenty of dew and both teams had a pathetic over rate.
This one was better I think

Yea probally but that TON yesterday was special....
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on March 28, 2014, 02:00:12 PM
Looks like this game will be over rather quickly
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Gerry SA on March 28, 2014, 02:20:38 PM
What's the point of Bangladesh playing international cricket?

They are rubbish and haven't ever shown any sign of improvement.

The ICC has bent over backwards to give them financial support, which they haven't done for Zimbabwe, Ireland or Afghanistan.

Aside from the odd fluke result, Bangladesh are the side that all the other major sides play just to boost their stats...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Gerry SA on March 28, 2014, 02:23:12 PM
Faf du Plessis and Dinesh Chandimal have been banned for 1 match off multiple poor over rate infringements.

Broad also fined 40% of match fee for poor over rate.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on March 28, 2014, 02:28:49 PM
What's the point of Bangladesh playing international cricket?

They are rubbish and haven't ever shown any sign of improvement.

The ICC has bent over backwards to give them financial support, which they haven't done for Zimbabwe, Ireland or Afghanistan.

Aside from the odd fluke result, Bangladesh are the side that all the other major sides play just to boost their stats...

May be the hope is that they will be the next Sri Lanka. Zim and Afghanistan may not be politically as stable as Bangladesh but I have no idea why Ireland is still where it is today.

And Bangladesh is fighting back showing signs of recovery.But is it going to be enough....may be not.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on March 28, 2014, 02:54:11 PM
Alright...good recovery Bangladesh.We have a match on.My money is still on India.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 28, 2014, 02:56:35 PM
What's the point of Bangladesh playing international cricket?

They are rubbish and haven't ever shown any sign of improvement.

The ICC has bent over backwards to give them financial support, which they haven't done for Zimbabwe, Ireland or Afghanistan.

Aside from the odd fluke result, Bangladesh are the side that all the other major sides play just to boost their stats...

Will SL be a force once sanka and mahela retire???

Slow over rates and the punishments are a joke, they need to be tougher. Make it bloody bad news if you don't follow the rules
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on March 28, 2014, 03:42:19 PM
Slow over rates and the punishments are a joke, they need to be tougher. Make it bloody bad news if you don't follow the rules

Second that. Who cares really about the match fee with the amount of money they make with all the endorsements and the likes of IPL...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 03:43:14 PM
Surprised England got a fine. Must be their first! 10 overs per hour was pretty poor
They've never got fines for slow over rates in tests despite obvious time wasting
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 28, 2014, 04:45:27 PM
3 outdoor net sessions for india. Really making the games boring
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on March 28, 2014, 08:51:27 PM
3 outdoor net sessions for india. Really making the games boring

SF will be a real test for India. And they better sort out their openers. Although Rohit Sharma is scoring runs, he is as lazy in his shots as always and Shikar Dhawan...what the hell is he playing..!!??Absolutely ridiculous.Looks like I can play better than him. Take him out and give the next man a chance. Aussie game is perfect for trying that.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 29, 2014, 11:10:09 AM
Netherlands post a decent score of 150 although should be more as had a ad last two overs.


Ignoring the Sri Lankan game, impressed with Netherlands this tournament, certainly a better shaping than Bangladesh!


Still think nz will win but how easily??
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: GarrettJ on March 29, 2014, 11:35:53 AM
I like holland, doing great and without one of their best players Ryan ten doeschete (spelling??)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: jackmorris on March 29, 2014, 11:49:25 AM
anyone know what boots the holland keeper is wearing?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 29, 2014, 12:05:32 PM
Look puma to me.

Custom made evospeeds in netherlands colours?
Or
Spiked trainers?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: jackmorris on March 29, 2014, 12:10:17 PM
yeah thats what i was thinking , they look good wouldnt go with whites though
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Jenko on March 29, 2014, 12:13:48 PM
Netherlands have looked pretty impressive at this tournament, hope they can get a win
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: jackmorris on March 29, 2014, 12:26:31 PM
vital wicket there, they might just have a chance
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 29, 2014, 12:33:22 PM
That six from anderson just won this.

Unlucky for netherlands. Thats 2 games they could have won, but for the last few overs of there innings.

They will learn and improve though. good lads.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 12:46:13 PM
Massive toss again for the England game. Probably another win the toss win the match.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 01:14:49 PM
Broad must be in the team for his tossing skills. Massive toss that broad won, but a ABD special could counter the toss
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Gingerbusiness on March 29, 2014, 01:20:27 PM
The biggest threat to the England team... IS the England team.

Talent, skill and fitness are all there... Mental strength is key!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 01:27:05 PM
Only half the England team bother singing the national anthem, might as well not bother with it. Complete contrast to the SA team
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: petehosk on March 29, 2014, 01:43:07 PM
Wonder how many catches England will drop this time!
If you drop the likes of AB, then it'll be massive as a number of SA players will punish you badly!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 01:52:10 PM
What a miss by buttler. Regulation stumping and next ball 6.
Amla loves smashing England
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Danny1981 on March 29, 2014, 02:15:45 PM
This is farcical with the lights
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on March 29, 2014, 02:30:17 PM
Who is this Australian clown commentating?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Sam on March 29, 2014, 02:47:30 PM
Who is this Australian clown commentating?

Danny Morrison, he's from New Zealand ;).
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 02:51:05 PM
Should have left de kock in. ABD already showing his class, if he bats the rest of the overs England could be in trouble with there rubbish death bowling
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: praguetaz on March 29, 2014, 02:58:44 PM
Nice....
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 03:13:15 PM
Abd's far too good against the short ball for this tactic by England.
Time for Dernbach to get smashed. He's having a shocker. Worse than normal
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: roco on March 29, 2014, 03:14:29 PM
Broad swearing at fielders when it was poor bowling

Dernbach is useless

Pratt when I met him and gets battered whenever he bowls

Is he doing broads sister?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Sam on March 29, 2014, 03:15:27 PM
Dernbach showing his class as 'the best death bowler in the country' as usual.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 29, 2014, 03:19:43 PM
Dernbach is poor. This over could cost us the tournament.



umpires have been poor today. Anyone see the holland innings. Guy bowled 2 wide almost of the strip and ump gave nothing. Batsmen moved over for the third and it was a foot outside leg. Ump again gave nothing then mouthed "you moved across"

Shocking umpiring.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Giraffe208 on March 29, 2014, 03:21:02 PM
Dernbach the "nicest guy" in England?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 03:21:05 PM
Brilliant 50 from ABD!

26 of the over! 200 on the cards. Usual pies at the death
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Giraffe208 on March 29, 2014, 03:32:26 PM
De Villiers oozes class!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 03:34:28 PM
The biggest threat to the England team... IS the England team.

Talent, skill and fitness are all there... Mental strength is key!

Looks like ABD was the biggest threat  :-[. Amazing knock.

England on the way home
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FattusCattus on March 29, 2014, 03:42:37 PM
My God! Moeen, Tredwell and Bopara with better economy rates all don't complete they're allocation. Yet Dernbach is allowed to go for 15 an over!

What do they see in him, it's beyond me!

And why pick,him when there are 3 other seamers? Stick another batter in, or play Parry

All those brains sitting in the dugout - Giles, Colly, Thorpe.

Jesus, what a shower - they couldn't run a tap!!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: petehosk on March 29, 2014, 03:44:01 PM
AB is the difference! England needed to keep them down to 170 really otherwise there'll be too much scoreboard pressure!
Too many runs to chase down so a nice early finish at the office!
The big question is whether England will start too slow and lose wickets at key times, and end up 165 for 8 after 20 overs? Or whether it'll be 134 all out cos they tried to go too hard against Steyn?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Tumo on March 29, 2014, 03:44:53 PM
My God! Moeen, Tredwell and Bopara with better economy rates all don't complete they're allocation. Yet Dernbach is allowed to go for 15 an over!

What do they see in him, it's beyond me!

And why pick,him when there are 3 other seamers? Stick another batter in, or play Parry

All those brains sitting in the dugout - Giles, Colly, Thorpe.

Jesus, what a shower - they couldn't run a tap!!!

Go on Brucey, get those claws in! Can't help but agree with Dernbach though, he has one good game in 10 and that keeps him in the side. 90% of the time he's absolute garbage!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
Shocking no ball decision
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 29, 2014, 04:22:07 PM
I said the umpiring was shocking.



Really thought hales was gonna capitalise. But hes gone. Gutted.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 29, 2014, 04:37:16 PM
Also buttler stumped in an old masuri but bats in the new double barred one???
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 04:52:40 PM
Bit stupid that you get two warnings in a t20 game, should be only one
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: The Palmist on March 29, 2014, 05:02:54 PM
Why reverse when Buttler was doing so well. Reminds me of Ponting's reverse in world cup.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 05:03:14 PM
England were better off playing the extra batsmen given that bopara and Ali bowled 4 overs
Tahir's pies have done pretty well this tournament. All the leggie's have done well.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: The Palmist on March 29, 2014, 05:04:19 PM
Bopara is a good contributor but he is no Gayle, Hales, Dhoni. #Tough ask.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 05:20:48 PM
Chance for bopara to do a sammy. That Dernbach over is the difference
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 29, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
Chance for bopara to do a sammy. That Dernbach over is the difference


Exactly, no dernbach over, less scoreboard pressure. win. It's about time he was discarded!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Stewie-Kidd on March 29, 2014, 05:33:58 PM
Bres did surprisingly well at the end. Shame about the result though. Buttler wicket was huge.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FattusCattus on March 29, 2014, 05:34:50 PM
To lose a game by 3 runs, and to have a bowler bowler 15 run overs - just sickens me.

P#ss poor captaincy and management.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 29, 2014, 05:34:58 PM
4 runs. Four f ing runs we've lost by. Grrrrrr.




Batting unit can hold there head high IMO, 2 190plus's I'm chases, a 177 vs New Zealand. Are 3 decent scores.
So no one can say kps the reason we are out.


Bowling, pretty dam shocking mostly, team selection and fielding are the 3 things that have cost us IMO.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 29, 2014, 05:49:05 PM
Just imagine what runs the side could get with their best t20 player! Bowling crisp, fielding crap. Management out (ECB included)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 29, 2014, 05:55:10 PM
Without Dernbach in the side England would look a lot stronger, surely it's time to drop the useless (No Swearing Please) for someone who knows how to bowl!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Bats_Entertainment on March 29, 2014, 06:02:42 PM
Just imagine what runs the side could get with their best t20 player!

Less runs. That's the whole point, isn't it?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ppccopener on March 29, 2014, 06:05:16 PM
Cant stand dernbach..if we want another bowler in his place woakes would be a better pick to bowl those overs and you get a far better fielder and you get a far far better batsman
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FvanN on March 29, 2014, 06:13:42 PM
You boys are to hard on the bowlers, they are always going to get hit for runs both sides have just been hit for almost 200 its the nature of the game. The moment of the game for me was The missed stumping of Amla.

Unlucky boys..

Bring on the semi final :)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 29, 2014, 06:22:03 PM
Ecb manangent will put a massive positive spin on this Wc.
But to be fair it wasn't sub continent conditions in this group. They didn't face any quality spinners and the ball didn't turn. Had they played at the other venue they would have struggled more.

Will be interesting how SA goes in the semi's on a turning track
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Steveo1000 on March 29, 2014, 06:25:43 PM
Love the fact Graeme Smith has pointed out on twitter that Broad avoided bowling in the power play or death overs.
Not exactly leading by example. I have no time for Broad at all.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FvanN on March 29, 2014, 06:26:46 PM
Ecb manangent will put a massive positive spin on this Wc.
But to be fair it wasn't sub continent conditions in this group. They didn't face any quality spinners and the ball didn't turn. Had they played at the other venue they would have struggled more.

Will be interesting how SA goes in the semi's on a turning track

Probably not very well.  ???
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Ryan on March 29, 2014, 06:29:03 PM
Cant stand dernbach..if we want another bowler in his place woakes would be a better pick to bowl those overs and you get a far better fielder and you get a far far better batsman

I agree, I'd pick woakes over dernbach anyday.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on March 29, 2014, 10:23:22 PM
SF match ups would be real interesting. 3 teams with good spin attack and SA.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 30, 2014, 03:40:30 PM
Bit embarrassing for Australia that there struggling against medium pace here. The spin struggle is a given
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 30, 2014, 04:15:42 PM
Poor tournament for Aussies who probably came in here confident after two decent series allround against England and aus.

But just haven't performed.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: The Palmist on March 30, 2014, 04:18:45 PM
Poor tournament for Aussies who probably came in here confident after two decent series allround against England and aus.

But just haven't performed.
Let's not take the credit from Indians who recovered really well in first innings been great in the field.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: The Palmist on March 30, 2014, 04:19:37 PM
Maxwell could have turned the game but such poor shot selection.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 30, 2014, 04:30:20 PM
Let's not take the credit from Indians who recovered really well in first innings been great in the field.

Not sure how I can give credit to the Indians for the windies and Pakistan wins over aus???


But in this game the Indians were far superior without really having to try. Indians fav for tournaments currently IMO

Indian vs Sri Lankan final??
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 30, 2014, 04:43:34 PM
It seems to have been a poor tournament really so far, full of poor performances and poor umpire decisions. You'd have hoped the t20 culture would have bred better players at it. Ab apart whose performance was good.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 30, 2014, 04:46:06 PM
It seems to have been a poor tournament really so far, full of poor performances and poor umpire decisions. You'd have hoped the t20 culture would have bred better players at it. Ab apart whose performance was good.

Not sure your watching the same tournament as me. I've enjoyed it immensely and only the odd bad game.


But then it's t20, even if it was great, you still wouldn't admit it your that against. Lol
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 30, 2014, 04:47:16 PM
Yup India favourites but only takes one knock from ABD in the semi's and they could go out.

Aussies seem to want to pack the batting but why not play 2 front line spinners? And why is Steve smith not in the squad. He's probably the best player of spin after Clarke for them.

Hope nz don't win tomorrow otherwise they will struggle against spin in the semi's
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 30, 2014, 04:52:01 PM
Not sure your watching the same tournament as me. I've enjoyed it immensely and only the odd bad game.


But then it's t20, even if it was great, you still wouldn't admit it your that against. Lol

Not really. Lots of crap bowling. Half volleys, full tosses etc because of the dew. Meaning higher scoring games, yeah they are hitting them but the bowling is in general poorer (May be down to conditions). In which case, stop playing it at stupid times
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 30, 2014, 05:01:14 PM
Not really. Lots of crap bowling. Half volleys, full tosses etc because of the dew. Meaning higher scoring games, yeah they are hitting them but the bowling is in general poorer (May be down to conditions). In which case, stop playing it at stupid times

On the flip side, had the ball been turning square, then people would have moaned too much spin, low scores etc. A bit like the last t20 WC in Sri Lanka. Think the balance has been decent, been movement in the first couple of overs for the swing bowlers yet all teams apart from Sri Lanka and India have opened the bowling with a off spinner.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: The Palmist on March 30, 2014, 07:52:03 PM
SA vs Sri Lanka or WI in finals.

Indians peaking too early I think.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Gerry SA on March 30, 2014, 10:14:25 PM
SA vs Sri Lanka or WI in finals.

Indians peaking too early I think.
Got an interesting stat regarding India.

Since the 2011 50 over World Cup defeat to South Africa

India haven't lost in an ICC event.

So i doubt India have 'peaked too soon'.

India seem relentless at present to bag all the limited overs ICC titles.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Gerry SA on March 30, 2014, 10:17:27 PM
Yup India favourites but only takes one knock from ABD in the semi's and they could go out.

South Africa haven't played at Dhaka yet, so if we have to play India in the SF we are seriously on the backfoot.

Throw in Imran Tahir has been a key weapon thus far, but when ever he's played India he's been mullered.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 09:53:06 AM
South Africa haven't played at Dhaka yet, so if we have to play India in the SF we are seriously on the backfoot.

Throw in Imran Tahir has been a key weapon thus far, but when ever he's played India he's been mullered.

True. With no dew in Dhaka makes the toss irrelivent too. Duminy's been successful against them though.

Just seen dernbach's t20 stats for 2013/2014
Most expensive bowler (no surprise)

9 games, 31 overs 344 runs at 57 with a economy rate of 11. And only 6 wickets.
These days they look at stats, but how did they miss his ???
9 games too many, finally dropped for today's game but a little to late.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: fasteddie on March 31, 2014, 09:55:59 AM
Lets see what damage Matt's H4L's can do to England today.

Poor fella, must be torn between watching his bats pay waste and England getting run around by the Neds.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 31, 2014, 09:57:25 AM
We could do with dernbach........... netherlands, or myburgh as is slapping us around.


Its a dead rubber, i believe bell and kieswetter should have got a game today.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 31, 2014, 09:58:27 AM
Lets see what damage Matt's H4L's can do to England today.

Poor fella, must be torn between watching his bats pay waste and England getting run around by the Neds.

game is meaningless. Play the reserves.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 31, 2014, 10:01:54 AM
Got an interesting stat regarding India.

Since the 2011 50 over World Cup defeat to South Africa

India haven't lost in an ICC event.

So i doubt India have 'peaked too soon'.

India seem relentless at present to bag all the limited overs ICC titles.

India lost to pakistan and Autralia in the 2012 t20 world cup. So not sure where you get your "stats" from.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: fasteddie on March 31, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
game is meaningless. Play the reserves.

they have been.
Dernbach!

I forgot to add that I am knocking in a H4L Tempo whilst I watch this.

Go H4L!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Number4 on March 31, 2014, 10:24:49 AM
Anyone notice the concaving on Myburgh's bat?

(http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x406/number414/image_zpsfe5e266a.jpg) (http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/number414/media/image_zpsfe5e266a.jpg.html)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on March 31, 2014, 10:38:31 AM
England take a catch and what a catch it was
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Jenko on March 31, 2014, 10:39:17 AM
What a cool cat one hand to catch the ball and the other for his sunnies!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Jenko on March 31, 2014, 10:42:12 AM
Probably just the resolution on the tv but it almost looks like England is bowling at England! Similar colours.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Number4 on March 31, 2014, 10:52:00 AM
Poor keeping there
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Neon Cricket on March 31, 2014, 10:53:22 AM
2 H4L's at the crease now, great bit of exposure!

Strange why he's wearing Mars gloves though?!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 31, 2014, 10:55:17 AM
Quote from: Number4link=topic=29447.msg468784#msg468784 date=1396261489
Anyone notice the concaving on Myburgh's bat?

([url]http://i1180.photobucket.com/albums/x406/number414/image_zpsfe5e266a.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1180.photobucket.com/user/number414/media/image_zpsfe5e266a.jpg.html[/url])



I did. And also made me think. Recently someone said you need a spine as it adds rigidness/strength to the bat which helps with transfering energy to the ball.
I was contemplatong having b3 make a similar bat to test if it would add extra rigidness.
Bit it seems gray nics and myburgh beat me to it.

A future "concept" bat? To go with the nemesis and vortex range.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 31, 2014, 10:56:09 AM
2 H4L's at the crease now, great bit of exposure!

Strange why he's wearing Mars gloves though?!

Not actually sponsored??
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 31, 2014, 10:58:41 AM
Also the double bar masuri shrugging off a jordan 87mph delivery with ease. Dam thing didnt even flex!!

Progress.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Neon Cricket on March 31, 2014, 11:00:42 AM
Not actually sponsored??

I guess not! Still a bonus for H4L though
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Number4 on March 31, 2014, 11:00:48 AM

I did. And also made me think. Recently someone said you need a spine as it adds rigidness/strength to the bat which helps with transfering energy to the ball.
I was contemplatong having b3 make a similar bat to test if it would add extra rigidness.
Bit it seems gray nics and myburgh beat me to it.

A future "concept" bat? To go with the nemesis and vortex range.

Looks a bit like the GM Luna
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 31, 2014, 11:07:36 AM
I guess not! Still a bonus for H4L though

Abit late now. But if youd have noticed in the qualitying rounds. You could have sent him some softs and stickers for abit of bright light exposure!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on March 31, 2014, 11:38:31 AM
Unlike England to be messing up a run chase....
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 11:39:37 AM
England struggling. Reckon had they played at either Dhaka or during the day without the dew the batting performances would have been less flattering for Ashley Giles and co.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Jenko on March 31, 2014, 11:49:11 AM
4/32 - uh-oh!!!!!! Come on the Netherlands!!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 11:51:51 AM
Same old England. Put them on a typical sub continent pitch and they look all at sea.

Excuse from broad/Giles will probably be it's a dead match, intensity wasn't there etc
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Alvaro on March 31, 2014, 11:57:11 AM
Well, this one ain't Dernbach's fault...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tate035 on March 31, 2014, 11:58:31 AM
Same old England. Put them on a typical sub continent pitch and they look all at sea.

Excuse from broad/Giles will probably be it's a dead match, intensity wasn't there etc

In my opinion this world cup has shown exactly why Broad should NOT be captain and Giles should NOT get the coaching job.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Neon Cricket on March 31, 2014, 12:00:10 PM
Words cannot explain what is happening right now
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FattusCattus on March 31, 2014, 12:03:19 PM
What a farce!

We are watching the driving force of future England coaches and captains!  what management skills!

Happy for people like Jordan, Moeen and Parry to have got the gig though - good luck to them.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 12:07:03 PM
Giles' face is priceless after that smug interview he gave.
Wonder how long they'll leave it before introducing Giles as the full time coach now
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: RoCo Da Pixie on March 31, 2014, 12:08:57 PM
Players like Broad, Bresnan, Lumb just don't seem to perform

I am not sure if Parry, Ali, Tredwell, have much of a future in the England set up.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 31, 2014, 12:10:32 PM
Well this is fun....
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 31, 2014, 12:11:47 PM
And home for lunch to see the end of England's game, is my TV broken or are they really coming 2nd to the Netherlands (again)...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Butterfingerz on March 31, 2014, 12:15:32 PM
Do you think Giles is looking froward to his interview next week?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: fasteddie on March 31, 2014, 12:17:02 PM
I recall a few people eating humble pie after England chased down Sri Lanka. Well, they needn't have bothered.
Hales and Morgan papered over what are wider than cracks.

Giles for the test team? Well this is the horderve to the main course.

Where is my broom?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tim2000s on March 31, 2014, 12:23:43 PM
I think this may be the nadir of watching England. They were rubbish throughout the nineties but they weren't THIS bad...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on March 31, 2014, 12:25:56 PM
Would just love to see KP's face watching this currently!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: fasteddie on March 31, 2014, 12:28:46 PM
Would just love to see KP's face watching this currently!

On a beach, sipping cocktails, chugging on a huge cigar.

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: 400notout on March 31, 2014, 12:34:01 PM
Wow, truly terrible performance.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 31, 2014, 12:38:05 PM
Well that's just embarrassing!
A yeah but no but run out seems a appropriate way for England's tournament to end though...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tim2000s on March 31, 2014, 12:41:52 PM
Conspiracy Theory says that the players produced such a dumb performance to make sure Giles doesn't get the Head Coach role....
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 31, 2014, 12:44:24 PM
Conspiracy Theory says that the players produced such a dumb performance to make sure Giles doesn't get the Head Coach role....
If that's true then top effort!  ;)
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: MD2812 on March 31, 2014, 12:44:44 PM
Can England cricket get lower? (Bar a match fixing scandal)

The only way is up boys!!! :D
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 12:46:19 PM
Better get back to playing odi's and t20's on green tops this summer then
The winter tour of Sri Lanka might be amusing against spin
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FattusCattus on March 31, 2014, 12:49:22 PM
I don't think the Dutch should get too carried away - after all, they've only beaten one of the minnows!

Good to see the post match interviews for this one!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: uknsaunders on March 31, 2014, 12:50:24 PM
Thank god we have have Cook to play spin in Sri Lanka and....
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on March 31, 2014, 01:22:58 PM
I don't think the Dutch should get too carried away - after all, they've only beaten one of the minnows!

Good to see the post match interviews for this one!
Nass interviewing giles was great.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: TangoWhiskey on March 31, 2014, 01:39:12 PM
Nass interviewing giles was great.

Haha yeah he didn't hold much back did he!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 01:42:46 PM
Bit odd that it's taken the organisers and icc until the last game of the group stages to realise there is a spray to reduce dew. It's been used in cricket in other parts for ages.
England probably wouldn't have scored as highly in those 3 previous d/n games and the management wouldn't have been able to kid themselves about the batting

That odi against Scotland in May might be interesting.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 31, 2014, 01:59:19 PM
Bit odd that it's taken the organisers and icc until the last game of the group stages to realise there is a spray to reduce dew. It's been used in cricket in other parts for ages.
England probably wouldn't have scored as highly in those 3 previous d/n games and the management wouldn't have been able to kid themselves about the batting

That odi against Scotland in May might be interesting.

England's batting has been helped by poor conditions, meaning more crap has been bowled. It's not rocket science to have. Priced that. I think some people genuinely thought eng were good!

Giles out
ECB out
Analysts out
Coaches out
Broad out (capt anyway)

National game is a shambles
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tim2000s on March 31, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
Giles looked like he was going to cry in the interview with Nass!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: alexhilly1492 on March 31, 2014, 03:40:28 PM
Tense game on now!! NZ 23-3 chasing 120 taylor and mccullum gone for 0
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 03:41:31 PM
Make that 4 down. NZ all at sea against spin
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: alexhilly1492 on March 31, 2014, 03:41:44 PM
make that for 4

Rangana Herath called into the side this game to replace ajantha mendis and has taken 2-2-0-3
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: alexhilly1492 on March 31, 2014, 03:43:42 PM
oh and corey anderson wont bat!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 03:47:37 PM
Think its better nz don't make the semi's, they would struggle on the other pitch.

Williamson is in some form though, he's a class player against spin
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: alexhilly1492 on March 31, 2014, 03:48:38 PM
Ronchi gone now!! 29-5 this just shows how good englands chase was!!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 03:51:01 PM
Had England played in these conditions (without the dew) or in the other group probably would have done worse than NZ are doing at the moment
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: alexhilly1492 on March 31, 2014, 03:58:27 PM
yeah but they werent and still chased down 189!! which in any conditions is tough!!

anyway nz are now 6 down for 33 this has been impressive by Sri Lanka and after the crushing of holland as well
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 04:05:00 PM
yeah but they werent and still chased down 189!! which in any conditions is tough!!


Not tough with a heavy dew and on a flat pitch.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tushar sehgal on March 31, 2014, 04:05:27 PM
yeah but they werent and still chased down 189!! which in any conditions is tough!!

anyway nz are now 6 down for 33 this has been impressive by Sri Lanka and after the crushing of holland as well

Maybe this speaks more highly of Holland rather than lowly of NZ & Eng??
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: alexhilly1492 on March 31, 2014, 04:14:03 PM
Not tough with a heavy dew and on a flat pitch.

against kulasekera (the best t20i seamer in the world), lasith malinga, and senanyake and ajantha mendis, although mendis had a shocking evening england have always had issues against "mystery" spin is no mean feat.

yeah it probably does show more about holland than the others, they ave been very hot and cold this tournament
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: alexhilly1492 on March 31, 2014, 04:25:03 PM
Sri Lanka go through NZ 60 all out MOM has got to be Herath for figures of 3.3-2-3-5
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 04:28:58 PM
against kulasekera (the best t20i seamer in the world), lasith malinga, and senanyake and ajantha mendis, although mendis had a shocking evening england have always had issues against "mystery" spin is no mean feat.

yeah it probably does show more about holland than the others, they ave been very hot and cold this tournament

When they couldn't grip the ball  and wasn't any turn due to the dew?
not such a great feat given the highest successful t20 chase (211) is against the same team.

Maybe England aren't use to high chases that's why you rate it. Pointless given that they didn't even make it to the semi's
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: uknsaunders on March 31, 2014, 04:40:38 PM
Reminds me of Bucks v Somerset about 20 years ago. They played it at High Wycombe and Bucks ground out 150 odd. Somerset came in and simply found the track too slow. Before they knew it they had popped up catches left right and centre, 22-5 or something. Some 2nd XI lad then nearly rescued it before Bucks recorded a giant killing. Moral of the story is sometimes a track can be a great leveller - Holland v Eng. Holland deserved it but sometimes even the (supposedly) good teams have to knuckle down. Sometimes a team more use to the conditions (Sri Lanka) can render a team like NZ shotless. Judging by the scores it wasn't the best track for t20 cricket.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on March 31, 2014, 04:48:32 PM
Given the conditions now in this tournament now, its probably going to be a all Sub continent final.
Don't see west indies beating Pakistan tomorrow given how poor west indies are against spin
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: swamidude on March 31, 2014, 08:07:44 PM
Given how short the tournament is and that there are only 2 venues (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the pitches are getting worn out extremely fast it seems. Judging by the scores yesterday they're practically rugby pitches! It'll probably be a low scoring slugfest in the semis and the final, the team most able to play boringly will win it :P
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: hell4leather cricket on March 31, 2014, 08:40:21 PM
I guess not! Still a bonus for H4L though

I did see bukkari using a tempo ! Guess it was better than he was using!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on March 31, 2014, 08:55:44 PM
I did see bukkari using a tempo ! Guess it was better than he was using!

Free advertisement!!!


Maybe mediumpacededdie had a word........
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: eukaryote76 on March 31, 2014, 09:49:12 PM
England's batting has been helped by poor conditions, meaning more crap has been bowled. It's not rocket science to have. Priced that. I think some people genuinely thought eng were good!

Giles out
ECB out
Analysts out
Coaches out
Broad out (capt anyway)

National game is a shambles
And Pietersen in? Sorry to ressurect this but how divisive can an individual be in the T20 team? It's hardly as if he'd have had time to disrupt the changing room if that is what you'd call those duggouts. His age should have little effect on his longevity as we're still a stronger side with than without him, and managed right in this format he could go on for years. Plus, if T20 is the poor cousin to the longer formats as seems to be the implication by the comparative lack of focus given to it, couldn't the ECB have managed the situation by saying to KP 'your batting in the long format is too cavalier, if you can't rein it in, we're going to have to put you where that kind of batting belongs... As the preserve of T20 squad. Bringing Pietersen back would at least be less humbling than finishing second from bottom and after being beaten by the bottom team in the table. The ECB got the result it deserved. Sadly England and Wales do not have the cricket boards they deserve.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 01, 2014, 10:32:42 AM
Given how short the tournament is and that there are only 2 venues (someone correct me if I'm wrong) the pitches are getting worn out extremely fast it seems. Judging by the scores yesterday they're practically rugby pitches! It'll probably be a low scoring slugfest in the semis and the final, the team most able to play boringly will win it :P

Add to that the SL and Pak tour of Bangladesh and the asia cup on these pitches. The women's semi's and finals are also due to be played before the men's. 120 could even be a good score in the finals.


Aussies seem to have lost the plot, on a spinning track not playing any front line spinners and dropping hodge (another part time spinner). Maybe Lehmann protesting about the squad selected.
Embarrassing to get carted around by Bangladesh 
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 01, 2014, 10:57:52 AM
Add to that the SL and Pak tour of Bangladesh and the asia cup on these pitches. The women's semi's and finals are also due to be played before the men's. 120 could even be a good score in the finals.


Aussies seem to have lost the plot, on a spinning track not playing any front line spinners and dropping hodge (another part time spinner). Maybe Lehmann protesting about the squad selected.
Embarrassing to get carted around by Bangladesh

if they are out then they probably don't really care. Similar to England vs the Clogs, already out = can't be bothered so I'll just go through the motions
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 01, 2014, 11:09:13 AM
if they are out then they probably don't really care. Similar to England vs the Clogs, already out = can't be bothered so I'll just go through the motions

True but in that case not worth giving the young leggie some experience
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: uknsaunders on April 01, 2014, 11:14:14 AM
Australia have been criminal in this world cup ;-)

England aren't a great team and inconsistent is the best you could say about them. Nobody thought they would do much and it ended in a real mess. However, Australia were many people's pre-tournament favourites and they have just about done everything possible to get knocked out. Massive chokes, crap selections, complete lack of common sense and an total inability to even embrace the conditions. Would cheer me up no end if they were turned over today.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 01, 2014, 11:28:46 AM
True but in that case not worth giving the young leggie some experience

yep. It is England though. I've given up thinking they'll select the right people tbh. They've shown themselves incapable of planning for the future, nurturing talent or even helping the game of cricket.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 01, 2014, 02:17:43 PM
West Indies all at sea against spin as expected.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on April 01, 2014, 02:37:56 PM
Football. Winner of the World Cup is the best footballing nation.

Rugby. Winner of the World Cup is the best rugby playing nation,

Cricket. Winner of the World Cup is the best team for the countries conditions it's held in. Not necessarily the best cricketing nation.

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 01, 2014, 02:43:25 PM
Some hitting from Bravo! He's too good of a player to come in soo late. Should be batting at 3/4
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 01, 2014, 02:51:29 PM
West indies taking conditions out of it with power hitting.
Got to love the passion Sammy play's with, fist pumping his shots.

Looks like they've got themselves up to a decent score now
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on April 01, 2014, 02:58:00 PM
Great finish from the windies. You got to love there passion
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: uknsaunders on April 01, 2014, 03:03:26 PM
West Indies all at sea against spin as expected.

bet Ajmal wishes that now  :D
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 01, 2014, 03:15:41 PM
With the amount of swing SL, India and now santokie is getting with medium pace, why would teams like aus and England look to open with spin
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 01, 2014, 03:52:30 PM
Seems to be a massive lack of quality players of spin. AbD, Kohli and Clarke probably miles ahead of anyone else.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on April 01, 2014, 10:51:37 PM
Interesting SF matchups. My prediction was SA vs SL final but India has been the better side. I hope India makes it to the finals.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 03, 2014, 03:22:51 PM
Need another Sammy and bravo special here. Surely not 3 games in a row
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on April 03, 2014, 03:45:47 PM
I said it earlier. Gayle pottering about them would cost the West Indies at some point.


Well it's today. Him and Samuels go slow has cost them big not her win is here.27runs behind duck worth and Lewis is massive.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on April 03, 2014, 03:49:11 PM
Holly Molly have you seen the weather! Huge rain. Huge snowballs. Like cricket size. Groundsmen just abanded the half out on covers, and legged it, looks dangerous out there.


Gods with Sri Lanka?.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 03, 2014, 03:53:53 PM
Yup looks like Gayle and Samules has cost them the match. Even when the rate was 10rpo plus Samules didn't look like he wanted to hit and got Bravo out with the pressure.
No chance of getting back on now, even if they did, no chance of chasing this.

Without the dew, chasing has become impossible in the last few games
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on April 03, 2014, 04:01:25 PM
Enjoying ponting as a pundit. He knows his cricket. A small master class this morning too from him. Always good to hear how the greats think when out there.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 03, 2014, 04:27:48 PM
Enjoying ponting as a pundit. He knows his cricket. A small master class this morning too from him. Always good to hear how the greats think when out there.

Hope Sky continue this format with the net in the studio. The normal coverage has become dated and boring.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: cricketbadger on April 03, 2014, 04:35:52 PM
Hope Sky continue this format with the net in the studio. The normal coverage has become dated and boring.

Nick Knight and Bob Willis have to go then, out with the old and clueless, in with the new
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Alvaro on April 03, 2014, 06:47:56 PM
For an international player, Marlon Samuels is a terrible T20 batsman.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on April 03, 2014, 06:53:25 PM
For an international player, Marlon Samuels is a terrible T20 batsman.

Yet is praised with the innings that won him, the last World Cup??


On form you'd drop him for a fit pollard if fit. Well I would.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Alvaro on April 03, 2014, 07:04:01 PM
One swallow don't make a summer... He was also in the form of his life then too.
And he is a chucker extraordinaire.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 03, 2014, 08:41:34 PM
One swallow don't make a summer... He was also in the form of his life then too.
And he is a chucker extraordinaire.
It makes a decent evening though!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on April 03, 2014, 08:47:58 PM
It makes a decent evening though!

Check out cam being poetic.

He had a few decent franchise events. But yea on current form aint great


anyway. Sa or india tomorrow? Can only see an indain win personally.
Batting i stronger. And well sa are relying on tahir. Whoch the indians will destroy.

steyn and de villiers can always win it on there own though
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 03, 2014, 09:03:35 PM
Might be a chance for rain or d/l so never discount SA.

Or maybe a SA choke, not choked so far apart from maybe the SL game
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Alvaro on April 03, 2014, 09:16:21 PM
Saffers are real underdogs with few talking them up. Wouldn't be surprised if they won through.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 03, 2014, 09:25:59 PM
Saffers are real underdogs with few talking them up. Wouldn't be surprised if they won through.

Batting's the biggest problem for me, only abd looks confident against spin. Amla, de kock and miller have struggled so far on the slower tracks. Duminy is weak against offspin. I only see FAF and ABD as decent players against spin.
Be interesting to see what number abd comes in, has to be number 3 for me

But just can't see SA putting 2 games together against spin.
Not going to get much pace from either India or SL if they make the final.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Jenko on April 03, 2014, 10:19:55 PM
Congrats to the Aussie women for making the final :)

Hope to see the Saffers get over India
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 03, 2014, 10:21:51 PM
Congrats to the Aussie women for making the final :)

Hope to see the Saffers get over India

Can't believe you dropped holly ferling. The teams not half as pretty without her in it
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Jenko on April 03, 2014, 10:26:33 PM
Can't believe you dropped holly ferling. The teams not half as pretty without her in it

Still got Perry in it :) But yes must agree with you there!!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 03, 2014, 10:31:03 PM
Still got Perry in it :) But yes must agree with you there!!

True. Good at cricket (and footy) too. Nice to see them through, if not eng women then the Aussies second.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: FattusCattus on April 04, 2014, 01:15:44 PM
Hahahahahahaha!!!! Check out cricinfo right now - best headline ever!!

"Bhuvneshwar nips out deKock early"

Sounds like a good night out!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 04, 2014, 01:27:52 PM
For a "off spinner" that's some ball to get rid of Amla.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: cricketbadger on April 04, 2014, 01:30:55 PM
Jadeja needs a slap those appeals are ridiculous
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Nmcgee on April 04, 2014, 01:33:21 PM
Hahahahahahaha!!!! Check out cricinfo right now - best headline ever!!

"Bhuvneshwar nips out deKock early"

Sounds like a good night out!

Whips out de Kock....done it several times with mixed results!

Not often I'm 100% behind the Indians but tonight's the night.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 04, 2014, 01:51:27 PM
SA look good for a decent score here with AbD to come.
They should have played the left arm spinner.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on April 04, 2014, 02:03:21 PM
Sa deffo looking good.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 04, 2014, 02:26:43 PM
SA's game to lose/choke

This score looks big
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on April 04, 2014, 02:30:24 PM
Good score indeed.

Lets see how the indians go about this.

Money on a dhoni last two over charge for victory?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on April 04, 2014, 02:34:16 PM
Not to discredit SA (great job guys) but does anybody else felt there might be something going on with India? How can a spinner bowl such a huge no ball?? It was not even marginal....for me it screamsss spot fixing and pathetic fielding. Mishra's bowling was ridiculous after that no ball. And sometimes I don't understand Dhoni...how can Raina bowl 4 overs and Jadeja only 2 (gave only 8 runs)!!!

SA's game to lose.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Sam on April 04, 2014, 02:43:07 PM
how can Raina bowl 4 overs and Jadeja only 2 (gave only 8 runs)!!!

SA's game to lose.

Took England a whole year to realize they should drop the guy regularly going at over 10 an over in T20 and they've only just realized that the guy regularly having an economy rate <7 should bowl a bit more than 1 or 2 overs a match  ;).
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Kieron_BT on April 04, 2014, 02:49:18 PM
India home in 18.4
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 04, 2014, 02:54:26 PM
Wrong tactics from SA
2 bowlers India would love to face chasing this score would be duminy and morkel.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 04, 2014, 03:18:40 PM
Surprised tahir's pies are getting respected so much.
Got to love the way Kohli bat's in a chase, makes it look soo easy.

Apart from steyn, SA don't have any wicket takers. Just hoping they'll hit one in the air
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on April 04, 2014, 03:21:23 PM
Glad rahane has got a game. Hes a good t20 player

Indians a good start. But have been oegged back. Be a good game this.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tejasapatel on April 04, 2014, 03:25:45 PM
This is turning into a thriller. India marginally ahead at the moment.

Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: MD2812 on April 04, 2014, 03:33:21 PM
This is turning into a thriller. India marginally ahead at the moment.

Sounds a close affair! Following on cric info.

Kohli and Dhoni are the wickets that will make the difference for me.

Unless I've missed an innings in the tournament, I'm of the impression that Raina hasn't had many standout performances in the last 12 months minimum?

Came onto the scene looking very promising several years ago!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tejasapatel on April 04, 2014, 03:35:31 PM
Raina hasn't had many chances so far in the tournament and from the brief inning of his I watched he looked to be in good touch.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: smilley792 on April 04, 2014, 03:45:49 PM
50 for kohli. Is he the best chaser in the game??
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 04, 2014, 03:47:53 PM
Blessing for India that wicket. Yuvraj was struggling.
Kohli's the big wicket
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 04, 2014, 03:51:24 PM
Game over!
Raina should have come in before yuvraj.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 04, 2014, 04:04:02 PM
Please tell me India have lost ?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 04, 2014, 04:06:32 PM
Please tell me India have lost ?

Afraid not, Chased it with ease. Kohli's just too good at the moment in a chase. Smoked steyn around
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 04, 2014, 04:11:28 PM
Oh well.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on April 04, 2014, 05:33:59 PM
Great win India. They made it look too easy. Although it's boaring to see India and SL in another finals, it should be a very good game.I would give the edge to India.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Gerry SA on April 04, 2014, 08:35:33 PM
Yet another ICC semi final defeat for the Proteas. Aside from the inaugural 1998 ICC Knockout/ICC Champions Trophy.

We love now lost 9 semi finals in ICC events.

That mental block is getting bigger all the time.

I get the feeling a few players wearing the Proteas Jersey lack a little bit of ticker.

That side Kohli is something else, and he could yet end up India's greatest ever batsman.

Also been pretty impressed with Ashwin's resurgence. He looked like he was done after woeful trips to SA and NZ, but it's good to see him embrace his bowling properly again. 
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Steveo1000 on April 04, 2014, 08:41:25 PM
Yet another ICC semi final defeat for the Proteas. Aside from the inaugural 1998 ICC Knockout/ICC Champions Trophy.

We love now lost 9 semi finals in ICC events.

That mental block is getting bigger all the time.

I get the feeling a few players wearing the Proteas Jersey lack a little bit of ticker.

That side Kohli is something else, and he could yet end up India's greatest ever batsman.

Also been pretty impressed with Ashwin's resurgence. He looked like he was done after woeful trips to SA and NZ, but it's good to see him embrace his bowling properly again.
I'm not sure the metal block/ticker argument is right this time. I think the Saffers put up a pretty good fight considering they only had one front line spinner in those conditions.
Most informed cricket watchers would have predicted an all sub continent final, I think the fact SA put in a strong performance should be recognised with credit personally.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 04, 2014, 09:06:50 PM
It was pretty obvious that SA,NZ,aus or eng would have had to play bloody well to reach the final. Was always going to be a final between SL, Ind or Pk. So it's no surprise. I don't think they are the best sides but they are in these conditions. Kohli is something else though. Very special talent
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 04, 2014, 09:08:50 PM
I'm not sure the metal block/ticker argument is right this time. I think the Saffers put up a pretty good fight considering they only had one front line spinner in those conditions.
Most informed cricket watchers would have predicted an all sub continent final, I think the fact SA put in a strong performance should be recognised with credit personally.

Have to agree with you. SA played spin well, got a good score that was defendable. Don't think it had anything to do with mindset, they just got beaten by the better team (mainly Kohli's knock)

One thing they did wrong was not open with steyn or Parnell with the new ball. Duminy and A morkel were odd choices. Another spinner may have helped but India play spin well. SA just didn't have the pace off the ball options. The bowling apart from steyn has been poor all tournament from them
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: tim2000s on April 04, 2014, 09:58:28 PM
I had a discussion with the Pakistani guys who run my local shop at the start of the tournament as to what the final would be.  I said India Sri Lanka and the disagreed.  Interesting discussion this evening!

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Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Steveo1000 on April 04, 2014, 10:06:44 PM
I had a discussion with the Pakistani guys who run my local shop at the start of the tournament as to what the final would be.  I said India Sri Lanka and the disagreed.  Interesting discussion this evening!

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Did they have a view as to why despite having the perfect conditions to progress to the semi finals Pakistan did not?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 04, 2014, 10:25:25 PM
Did they have a view as to why despite having the perfect conditions to progress to the semi finals Pakistan did not?
It's Pakistan!! They play by their own rules. You never know what team will turn up.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: swamidude on April 05, 2014, 12:48:56 PM
Conditions obviously favoured the sub continental teams, Pakistan were abysmal though with Ajmal not standing up. Can always count on Kohli for a big innings on a big stage, hopefully he can carry our team for a good few years now :P

If this tournament had been played down under on bouncy grassy wickets I would put my house on everyone saying how good SA/Aus/Eng were playing if one of them had reached the finals, not commenting on the conditions.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 06, 2014, 09:16:41 AM
Eng women failing miserably :(

I wonder if turning pro is good for the women's game? Yes it means they get rewards but giving how bad football has got and with the men's cricket game heading that way.. Does it lose that hunger/love of the game? Replaced by greed ?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Twelfth Man on April 06, 2014, 09:27:06 AM
What's the brand Sciver is using?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Cedrictoad on April 06, 2014, 09:28:58 AM
You can't tell how well the English girls have played until the Aussies have batted on this deck.

Looks like hard work to score when there is no pace on the ball.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 06, 2014, 12:12:41 PM
Looks like another icc final rain farce just like the champions trophy final. Would be a shame if it's a 5 over game
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Gerry SA on April 06, 2014, 12:21:29 PM
Looks like another icc final rain farce just like the champions trophy final. Would be a shame if it's a 5 over game
Farce in which sense?

That India nearly got robbed in the champions trophy despite being the best side by a country mile?

And the same could happen today as well?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 06, 2014, 12:36:43 PM
Farce in which sense?

That India nearly got robbed in the champions trophy despite being the best side by a country mile?

And the same could happen today as well?

a 5 over game is not the best way to decide a world cup. hope it doesn't go down to that.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 06, 2014, 01:53:42 PM
You can't tell how well the English girls have played until the Aussies have batted on this deck.

Looks like hard work to score when there is no pace on the ball.

You could tell, it wasn't just a hard wicket. They played badly :(
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Gerry SA on April 06, 2014, 02:03:56 PM
ICC continually banned Johan Botha for a suspect action. They've banned Shane Shillingford twice already in his short international career.

How on earth is Senanayake still playing? The guy should be throwing darts for the PDC...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: swamidude on April 06, 2014, 02:23:03 PM
Classic Rohit throwing his wicket away after a start...
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 06, 2014, 02:29:20 PM
Classic Rohit throwing his wicket away after a start...

It's a done deal anyway.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: swamidude on April 06, 2014, 02:30:10 PM
It's a done deal anyway.

What's that supposed to mean?
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Giraffe208 on April 06, 2014, 02:40:29 PM
ICC continually banned Johan Botha for a suspect action. They've banned Shane Shillingford twice already in his short international career.

How on earth is Senanayake still playing? The guy should be throwing darts for the PDC...

Got to agree with you there. Not quite sure it would make the 15 degree cut off
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: Warneymonster on April 06, 2014, 02:52:38 PM
Yuvraj is costing India the game here
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: csnew on April 06, 2014, 02:58:22 PM
ICC continually banned Johan Botha for a suspect action. They've banned Shane Shillingford twice already in his short international career.

How on earth is Senanayake still playing? The guy should be throwing darts for the PDC...

He's got the biggest chuck in the game. Even with long sleeves you can see it bent.

Yuvraj has cost India this match. Really odd innings, Samuels esk.
Don't see how Sri Lanka can lose this, they have a massive batting order
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 06, 2014, 03:02:31 PM
What great death bowling by Sri Lanka.
No easy runs and keep the new man on strike, a true master class!
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on April 06, 2014, 03:04:30 PM
Unlucky Kohli
A great innings (if lucky at times), robbed of the strike towards the end and run out trying to get an extra run for his team!

Sri Lanka favourites for me
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: sfa82 on April 06, 2014, 04:44:47 PM
Really good run chase by the Sri Lankans. Great send off to two of their great players. Their death bowling was superb and ensured a pressure free chase.
Title: Re: 2014 T20 World Cup
Post by: kal_m on April 06, 2014, 04:48:25 PM
Full credit to SL. First of all with their death bowling and then perfect run chase.They were in a position to chase down 160.