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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: Fearless Fly on September 30, 2014, 04:22:53 AM
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Hello all,
A few weeks ago i posted a couple weeks back of the follow up review of the JVS HMX signature bat i received,
It was with great sadness that the said bat broke last week while training. The photos speak for themselves
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20140923_225457_zpse0ac8d4a.jpg)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20140923_225505_zpsd3ea3a17.jpg)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20140925_100746_zpscb9db435.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20140925_100746_zpscb9db435.jpg.html)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20140925_100802_zps2b504741.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20140925_100802_zps2b504741.jpg.html)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20140925_100807_zps5fdfb89e.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20140925_100807_zps5fdfb89e.jpg.html)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20140925_100858_zps5245efb1.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20140925_100858_zps5245efb1.jpg.html)
This image shows where the toe guard as been removed to investigate the state of the crack
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20140925_100912_zpsf5beec77.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20140925_100912_zpsf5beec77.jpg.html)
I have attempted to fix this bat which may be fruitless but worth a crack as it is a cracking stick
AS it broke in a variety of places i have fixed it in stages
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20140929_143613_zps13c29376.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20140929_143613_zps13c29376.jpg.html)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20140929_143619_zps7a5464de.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20140929_143619_zps7a5464de.jpg.html)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20140929_150223_zps80c0c38d.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20140929_150223_zps80c0c38d.jpg.html)
It still has some way to go as i have to address the face next and the giant crack down the centre of the blade,
I have glued the edge and got it to sit flush but for how long it lasts and if it performs is a mystery
Will have some more photos later on this evening,
Is a bizarre break and i have never seen something like this, most of the damage all went at once,
Was very weird as i hit the ball out of the middle and cannoned off and looked down to a shattered masterpiece.
This is now 5 bats in 3 weeks broken
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My last Lekka bat broke in a similar fashion, in that it had about a season's use and then cracked up the middle of the blade. It was a cracking bat, but I know it was Pakistan made, and I suspect had a lower than average moisture content.
I just binned it as once it had cracked, you could feel that the middle was gone. Looks a good attempt at a repair but I wonder whether you'll get the middle back given the damage location.
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Does look extremely dry to be honest
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The middle is going to be the determining factor.
I have just sanded it back and it look like i have sealed most of the cracks.
I am taking it to training tonight to see how it goes and only then will be able to determine whether it is going to be burned or will continue to use it
More pictures of the sanding and face restoration to come!
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Does look extremely dry to be honest
Is in the process of being sanded and glued so it is going to look dry, from what i have gathered though it does seem to be a low moisture cleft due to its size and weight
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That's a refund/replacement job surely?
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Wow that's a big crack....how old / how much use did this bat have?
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Personally i would have left it well alone and sent it back to the retailer / manufacture for a refund, replacement or at least an explanation as, think it's fair to say, it shouldn't have broken like that, this early in it's lifespan.
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OK all, few questions have been raised so thought i would answer.
Sorry for delay, time-zones and work are wonderful things :)
SO this bat has had little use only bout 125 runs and has mainly been used as a net bat but has been used quite heavily (probably upwards of 30 net sessions)
I spoke with James and i thought i would at least have a crack at repairing it ( pun intended)
The repair job is a success to a degree in saying that the cracks have been closed.
Unfortunately it has lost most of its ping.
Without being able to prove this to James and not wanting to send it back to him at my cost, a choice was given by James to saw the bat as in James' words, "If it is truly gone you wont have a issue of cutting it up and burning it"
I have decided to cut it up (which i will provide photos shortly :) )
it was a belter but now has lost all of its ping,
A video will be shown later of the bat being cut up and burned as it becomes night time over here
AS i have now cut it up, James will be replacing the bat which i am sure will live up to this bats quality
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Belt sander photos that i tried to finish off the bat
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/received_m_mid_1412052972327_cada3548f6de1d3771_0_zps67a85ced.jpeg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/received_m_mid_1412052972327_cada3548f6de1d3771_0_zps67a85ced.jpeg.html)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/received_m_mid_1412053034920_0c17c4cf88436cb302_0_zps74d3d330.jpeg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/received_m_mid_1412053034920_0c17c4cf88436cb302_0_zps74d3d330.jpeg.html)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/received_m_mid_1412052838896_4964e9b5b87e27b634_0_zpsef05ff53.jpeg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/received_m_mid_1412052838896_4964e9b5b87e27b634_0_zpsef05ff53.jpeg.html)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/received_m_mid_1412053315039_2310987ac0cd399570_0_zpsca2de5f3.jpeg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/received_m_mid_1412053315039_2310987ac0cd399570_0_zpsca2de5f3.jpeg.html)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/received_m_mid_1412053492162_ad5bc6d75d90be3a72_0_zps651b1aec.jpeg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/received_m_mid_1412053492162_ad5bc6d75d90be3a72_0_zps651b1aec.jpeg.html)
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and a photo of the bat in pieces after cutting with a jigsaw
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20141001_143254_zps488736f3.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20141001_143254_zps488736f3.jpg.html)
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seeing as you have cut it up, it would be good to do a few shots of the inside of the bat so members can see the depth of oil penetration as well as see where the bat has been pressed.. if you get a chance please.
I think it would also be helpful to see how dry the cleft was on the inside.
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no worries buzz will upload shortly.
From looking at them the penetration is minimal, you cant even tell where it was oiled even with 2 coats. a
The cleft is very dry, i dont know what the standard moisture would be in a bat but this looks very dry
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and a photo of the bat in pieces after cutting with a jigsaw
([url]http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20141001_143254_zps488736f3.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20141001_143254_zps488736f3.jpg.html[/url])
Firewood with added xd650000 for insane burning potential :D
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inside of the bat pics,
rather dry as one could see, crack is part of the initial break that wasn't sealed as it could not be seen until now
very dry willow even with 2 oils. cant even see the penetration
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20141001_165637_zps37a96583.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20141001_165637_zps37a96583.jpg.html)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20141001_165715_zps87f186df.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20141001_165715_zps87f186df.jpg.html)
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20141001_165654_zps0b0c9e8e.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20141001_165654_zps0b0c9e8e.jpg.html)
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Considering your initial photos and how much you try to promote Lekka on this forum, I can't believe you were asked to cut it up...
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inside of the bat pics,
rather dry as one could see, crack is part of the initial break that wasn't sealed as it could not be seen until now
very dry willow even with 2 oils. cant even see the penetration
([url]http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20141001_165637_zps37a96583.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20141001_165637_zps37a96583.jpg.html[/url])
thanks - this really shows how dry these bats are - the inside looks like sawdust already! So the likelihood of them breaking is high - it also shows how hard it is to over oil a bat - there is no evidence of oil here at all (which surely will protect the bat!)
I was hoping to see evidence of the compressed fibres of the willow from the pressing process - up to about 3-4mm deep - but that isn't really clear
Still always worth seeing what the inside of a cleft looks like.
Please don't view this as a criticism of the product - I have used a few bats from that source and the have all performed very well
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It was probably James' idea of entertainment - the bloke really does have a screw loose
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I don't get it. Why would he only replace if you chopped it up?
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Because then he gets a little bit more promotion on here...
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Thanks buzz and 100% agree i am not surprised that it broke considering how dry it is. i disagree on the over oiling as a bat with a higher moisture content could yield a different result but certainly this bat could have had upwards of 5 oils but i only did 2.
TO answer your Tango, as James is not located in Australia and i am, he can only go on what pictures i send him and what I say.
His quote was that "if it was proper stuffed then i would have no issues of cutting it up" which i can understand even though it is strange.
He cant see that the ping had gone from the bat from his location but he can see that i have cut it up and turned it into fire wood.
Just James being James i guess
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Just as an idea...
How about using each of the separate parts of wood to do different amounts of oiling. E.g. one with a single coat, the next with two, three, four and another soaked in oil old school style?
Just so we get a better idea of penetration.
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I like that idea Arsenal but as per James' request part of the agreement was to burn the bat which i did about 90 mins ago.... i do like that idea tho, i have a bat i could do this on
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I like that idea Arsenal but as per James' request part of the agreement was to burn the bat which i did about 90 mins ago.... i do like that idea tho, i have a bat i could do this on
Burn it too? As if you sticking it back together would make it useable!?
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Surely chopping it up was enough to ensure no use of it!!!!!! ???
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Correct boys i wasnt going to stick it back together but was interesting to see how EW burnt and especially a piece of willow that was so dry that struggled to burn.
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There should be no need to prove the ping has gone. The bat has snapped in half and if it's happened within reasonable timeframe etc then there should be no issues in replacing it and no need to cut up and burn. Very odd request!
Let's hope the replacement lives up to your expectations of the brand
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There should be no need to prove the ping has gone. The bat has snapped in half and if it's happened within reasonable timeframe etc then there should be no issues in replacing it and no need to cut up and burn. Very odd request!
Let's hope the replacement lives up to your expectations of the brand
The ping of his bats are certainly good from my experiences,
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I like that idea Arsenal but as per James' request part of the agreement was to burn the bat which i did about 90 mins ago.... i do like that idea tho, i have a bat i could do this on
You could have just burnt it then, why bother with chopping and now that it is burnt are you supposed to send the ashes back. Were you to dance around the fire as part of the agreement also :-) and send a video.
This agreement sounds interesting and good on you to comply with it. My personal advice would be not to be a door mat next time.
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Surely chopping it up was enough to ensure no use of it!!!!!! ???
what a waste FF could have used it as a net bat or personal defence bat or free loader bat.
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what a waste FF could have used it as a net bat or personal defence bat or free loader bat.
It was a net bat Palmist and it was rooted, doesnt take Einstein to work that out, it broke quite badly he glue was merely holding it together, i may as well have been batting with a piece of foam as it was just absorbing contact and stopping balls dead in front of me. Cutting it was easier to burn as well and i wanted to save the handle incase i need one in the future so while i was making 1 cut it wasnt hard to make more as per the request.
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You have been on quite a run with breaking bats lately, didnt you break a kook and another a few days apart?
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i broke 4 in 3.5 weeks. one of those i broke twice,
IS some record
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Haha thats the worst run ive heard of by far
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The brands vary to so is not just a single manufacturers fault, just cant work out why really is quite strange
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Image of the willow in the fire, looks rather majestic really, shame it is 27 degrees at 7.30pm when this was taken,
(http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20141001_183932_zpsde4a0abb.jpg) (http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20141001_183932_zpsde4a0abb.jpg.html)
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oh, quite a cheap firewood ;) ... are all other bats which broke also as dry as this was?
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oh, quite a cheap firewood ;) ... are all other bats which broke also as dry as this was?
no they werent, they were all a variety of breaks; Shoulders, handles, etc
this at had 2 coats of oil but obviously not a lot of penetration
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Image of the willow in the fire, looks rather majestic really, shame it is 27 degrees at 7.30pm when this was taken,
([url]http://i1369.photobucket.com/albums/ag230/jaknight14/20141001_183932_zpsde4a0abb.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1369.photobucket.com/user/jaknight14/media/20141001_183932_zpsde4a0abb.jpg.html[/url])
Sticker art for the new Lekka Firewood LE
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shame it is 27 degrees at 7.30pm when this was taken,
Awh that sounds terrible, i bet your beer was too cold as well? Wallet too small for your 50's? Girlfriend too busy being Miss World? ;)
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I still can't get my head round this. There is no way in hell I'd part any money with this bloke.
As Far as I have seen you are just about the only person on this forum who raves about his products and he treats you like you are trying to mug him off. Obviously he shouldn't have to send you endless free bats just because you like his products. When you send a picture of a bat that looks like it was being used in a live round of hand grenade cricket, I'd be insulted if he turned around and basically said I was lying that the ping had gone.
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This is probably the weirdest thread I've come across
New refund policy - all bats must be chopped up and burnt before return
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Least you know Mr Lekka will send you an absolute (fire)cracker. Something really smoky, a bat that in the end will be too hot for us mere mortals to handle. Do I need to go on.
Agree with the above, massive split should be more than enough for a batmaker (??) to make amends without protracted chop and burn. Although it does add a bit of creativity to disposal, most would just bin it.
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i'd like to thank Fearless Fly for the most interesting and strangest thread for a while on the forum
if I had'nt read all of it I might just think it was a massive wind up
certainly makes a change from 'best performing anti scuff sheet-discuss'
not that there is anything wrong with those subjects but this is way out on it's own :) :o
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This is probably the weirdest thread I've come across
New refund policy - all bats must be chopped up and burnt before return
Cuts down on return postage I suppose...
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It was a net bat Palmist and it was rooted, doesnt take Einstein to work that out, it broke quite badly he glue was merely holding it together, i may as well have been batting with a piece of foam as it was just absorbing contact and stopping balls dead in front of me.
Send it over!! It may solve the isue of me having the worlds hardest hands :D ;)
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Well this was a fun thread I never clicked on.
The life of that bat from being well taken care of to being burned and everything in between.
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Im glad others have enjoyed such a thread, something very left of center and enjoyed by most for a variety reasons, i personally like the fact i could open up the bat and see how well my glue had stuck (or didnt in this case) , to see how dry the clefts are becoming these days and it gave me a good reason to try my new jigsaw.
has been a great journey for this bat and cant wait to see its replacement
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I would ask for your money back and buy from a recognised brand.