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Title: Australia v India 3rd test @ M.C.G
Post by: Number4 on December 21, 2014, 07:20:46 AM
Joe Burns selected for the Boxing Day test match to replace injured Mitch Marsh
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Post by: ProCricketer1982 on December 21, 2014, 08:37:02 AM
Is he any good so to speak?
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Post by: AverageCricketer on December 21, 2014, 10:05:52 AM
Can't wait until it starts. I'm going to day 1. Anyone else going?
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Post by: csnew on December 21, 2014, 10:16:22 AM
Cowan would be disappointed not to get a call up with his 4 100s this season
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Post by: Number4 on December 21, 2014, 10:20:25 AM
Burns is more versatile being able to bat anywhere in the top 6
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Post by: Gerry SA on December 25, 2014, 09:10:05 AM
Gotta admit I love the Boxing Day Test, and there's 3 of them this year!

Anyway two changes for Australia. Joe Burnsdebuts in place of the injured Mitchell Marsh and Ryan Harris replaces Mitchell Starc(Has Starc ever played consecutive Test matches).

Warner, Rodgers, Watson, Smith(c), S Marsh, Burns, Haddin(w/k), Johnson, Harris, Hazlewood and Lyon

India are set to bring back Bhuvneshwar Kumar for Varun Aaron. But rather somewhat surprisingly will not dish the dreadful Rohit Sharma. Ashwin will probably be fortunate and retain his place as well.

Dhawan, Vijay, Pujara, Kohli, Rahane, Rohit, Dhoni(c) (w/k), Ashwin, Kumar, Yadav and Ishant.
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Post by: skip1973 on December 25, 2014, 02:16:01 PM
India seem shot, complaining, playing the victim again, they really are as weak as water.
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Post by: Gerry SA on December 25, 2014, 11:18:04 PM
Australia won the toss and elect to bat.

India with two changes. Shami for Aaron(Kumar still unfit) and KL Rahul(22 year old from Bangalore) will debut at 6 in place of the pitiful Rohit Sharma.
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Post by: Gerry SA on December 25, 2014, 11:41:51 PM
David Warner gets a 6th ball duck. Excellent catch by Dhawan at third slip.
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Post by: ItsJustCricket on December 26, 2014, 05:28:13 PM
Is Steve Smith the most improved Test batsman in world cricket? He's gone from a walking wicket to a world beater in just a year and a half.  How does that happen?!
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Post by: Manormanic on December 26, 2014, 05:35:35 PM
Darren Lehmann's coaching and greater maturity?

If you look, he's become a lot more still at the crease, and had got his back lift tighter to his body.  Its still an idiosyncratic technique, but for a lad in his physical prime its one that he can work with now.  He'll always be vulnerable to the ball tailing in to him or swinging away very late (though that latter point covers maybe 90% of the cricketing population) but is now able to concentrate on his own game rather than what he perceives the bowlers will be targeting him on. 
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Post by: Gerry SA on December 26, 2014, 07:37:23 PM
Surely Virat Kohli should be made permanent Test cricket. Dhoni clearly shows no interest, sets poor fields and to boot is a below average keeper.
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Post by: skip1973 on December 26, 2014, 10:10:43 PM
Dhoni is one of the most negative captains around, nearly in the Strauss mold.
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Post by: ProCricketer1982 on December 26, 2014, 10:11:59 PM
Dhoni is one of the most negative captains around, nearly in the Strauss mold.

Strauss wasn't as bad as cook is!
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Post by: skip1973 on December 26, 2014, 10:12:51 PM
He was aweful.
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Post by: ProCricketer1982 on December 26, 2014, 10:14:02 PM
He was aweful.

at least he didn't make one of our best batsmen an outcast, so not that bad.
Title: Re: Australia v India 3rd test @ M.C.G
Post by: csnew on December 26, 2014, 11:49:01 PM
India trying to bounce these two out attest pace!
Reckon aus should be able to double there score if they continue bowling short
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Post by: uknsaunders on December 26, 2014, 11:58:07 PM
Aussie commentators doing their nuts about India bowlers. Brad haddin hangs on the backfoot and you think it would be obvious to bowl full and wait for him to miss one.
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Post by: Gingerbusiness on December 27, 2014, 12:00:25 AM

Aussie commentators doing their nuts about India bowlers. Brad haddin hangs on the backfoot and you think it would be obvious to bowl full and wait for him to miss one.

Ahhhh... The tactic every International ODI team uses against England.

Always a winner! :s

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Post by: uknsaunders on December 27, 2014, 12:03:41 AM
 Yadav pitches it up and Haddin misses it, funny that.

Bowling straight ought to be common sense, bypassed a few bowlers in the England and india setups!
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Post by: uknsaunders on December 27, 2014, 12:29:09 AM
Haddin gets out to a pitched up ball, funny that.
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Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 27, 2014, 03:33:39 AM
150 for Smifffy! Always liked him as a player and he's showing the world what he's capable of!

He's now one past 1,000 test runs for the year, and 2,000 career test runs.
Worth noting he reached 2,000 test runs from 25 matches (47 innings) which is quicker than Ponting, Clarke or Border.

Have Australia found a long term leader and future legend of the game?
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Post by: skip1973 on December 27, 2014, 04:02:00 AM
at least he didn't make one of our best batsmen an outcast, so not that bad.
No, your best batsman embarrassed himself and his team by bagging Strauss, pretty sure Strauss was happy to see him get the treatment he deserved.
I like Strauss but horribly negative skipper, I don't have any time for KP.
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Post by: Manormanic on December 27, 2014, 08:43:50 AM
150 for Smifffy! Always liked him as a player and he's showing the world what he's capable of!

He's now one past 1,000 test runs for the year, and 2,000 career test runs.
Worth noting he reached 2,000 test runs from 25 matches (47 innings) which is quicker than Ponting, Clarke or Border.

Have Australia found a long term leader and future legend of the game?

Long term leader?  Possibly.  Future legend....not convinced on that score just yet!
Title: Re: Australia v India 3rd test @ M.C.G
Post by: Manormanic on December 27, 2014, 08:46:09 AM
I like Strauss but horribly negative skipper, I don't have any time for KP.

The key difference between Strauss' negativity and Cook's is in personnel - Strauss could afford to play a slightly attritional game because he had the perfect sit-and-wait attack - Broad and Bresnan could seal up an end waiting for Swann or Anderson to bowl a magic ball.  He also had a side that reliably scored 450 in the first innings.

Cook doesn't have that attack.  Nor does he have the reliable batting - at least, the only evidence he might have came against India, so counts for little.  Different puzzle, needs a different - and more overtly attacking - solution.
Title: Re: Australia v India 3rd test @ M.C.G
Post by: Gerry SA on December 27, 2014, 06:41:43 PM
Steven Smith might not be the next Michael Clarke, but he's a tough old nut that's for certain. Remains to be seen whether he can bat like this on more seamer friendly pitches, Boult & Southee would be a god contest against Smith.

India's fast bowlers are shocking. Shami has no ability in just bowling a good line and length. Ishant Sharma just bowls too short for a dibbly dobber medium fast bowler. Yadav and Ashwin bowled nicely, but copped it as the charity offering from Shami/Sharma got the Australians ticking.
Title: Re: Australia v India 3rd test @ M.C.G
Post by: swamidude on December 27, 2014, 11:43:42 PM
I don't think India's batting is bad at all, honestly. When you have to go out 500 in the red every test match it must get tedious. I could imagine scoring a hundred wouldn't feel particularly satisfying when you still end your innings 100 down. Don't know what our fast bowlers are doing to be honest, no way should Ryan Harris be scoring 80 odd.
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Post by: Gerry SA on December 27, 2014, 11:44:23 PM
Cheteshwar Pujara seems to have been found out goo and proper. A king on the sub-continental flat pancakes and a walking wicket everywhere else. His 'huge' reputation have been shot to pieces in 2014. Never mind though, India's next 24 months of Test cricket is all in Asia. Pujara will boost his average in no time.
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Post by: Cedrictoad on December 28, 2014, 12:47:15 AM
Kohli is going to fill his boots today... that MCG pitch looks a little bit sub-continental... going to be a long day for the Aussies
Title: Re: Australia v India 3rd test @ M.C.G
Post by: Gerry SA on December 28, 2014, 05:18:08 AM
Australia paying dearly for two drop catches. Lyon spilled at dolly caught and bowled offered up by Rahane when he was 70 odd. The. Watson dropped a tough one at first slip of the  bowling of Johnson when Kohli was on 80 odd.

Since then, Johnson gave Kohli a few verbals, and India have ripped him a new one.
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Post by: The Palmist on December 28, 2014, 05:33:22 AM
Another bad decision by Dharmasena....so much for the elite panel.
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Post by: skip1973 on December 28, 2014, 06:43:30 AM
How many has he made?
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Post by: The Palmist on December 28, 2014, 09:47:14 AM
How many has he made?
He does it quite  often now. I am saying  in general not just this test.
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Post by: Gerry SA on December 28, 2014, 06:33:25 PM
Ajinkya Rahane surely showing he's set for a long Test career. Whereas overrated players like Rohit and Pujara are hyped to the moon and back, Rahane just lets his bat do the talking. Rahane's already bagged a hundred @ Wellington, Lords and the MCG(plus a 96 at Jo'burg). Classy player.

Kohli has shown he had the capability to rectify the technical errors he made in the horror tour of England. In England he played with an open face too often, he's certainly fixed that in Australia. He's already got 6 Test hundreds outside Asia.
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Post by: CrickFreak on December 28, 2014, 07:18:09 PM
That was one of the best batting at MCG i have seen in a while. Kudos to Kohli and Rahane. Brilliant talent. Keep it going guys...
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Post by: Gerry SA on December 29, 2014, 12:03:24 AM
Mitchell Johnson cleaned up India's lacklustre tail quickly and bagged Australia a 65 run first innings lead. If Warner gets going, Australia could be in a position to declare after tea with a target of 350/400.
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Post by: Gerry SA on December 29, 2014, 12:10:23 AM
Looking ahead both Smith and Kohli have three centuries so far in the series. Depending on what happens over the next two days, both could end up with 4 centuries in the series by the time Sydney Test ends. The world record is 5 centuries in a series by legend West Indian Clyde Walcott.
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Post by: Sam on December 29, 2014, 12:18:44 AM
Put some money on Warner to get 50, looking good :D. Now I just need Rogers out lbw...
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Post by: InternalTraining on December 29, 2014, 03:10:18 AM
Richie Benaud. Bill Lowry. Tony Gregg. Unforgettable voices. Ian Healey and Nichols are pretty good, other two guys I don't like. Clarkey may have a fine future in the commentary box.  :D
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Post by: InternalTraining on December 29, 2014, 03:10:52 AM
All the chat between players seems idiotic. Just shut up and play cricket!
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Post by: skip1973 on December 29, 2014, 06:22:05 AM
Is it hypocritical of Kohli to do the same thing he whinges publicly about? I don't have an issue if he gives as good as he gets, just don't play the victim in press conferences.
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Post by: Nmcgee on December 29, 2014, 07:20:23 AM
All the chat between players seems idiotic. Just shut up and play cricket!

Admin......is there any chance we can have this post as the CBF slogan on the homepage?
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Post by: Gerry SA on December 30, 2014, 01:31:49 AM
Poor old Shaun Marsh run out on 99!
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Post by: Gerry SA on December 30, 2014, 01:34:50 AM
Australia declare on the stroke of lunch.

India have been set 384 runs of 68 overs.

Be some chase if they can get anywhere near it
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Post by: Gingerbusiness on December 30, 2014, 01:35:55 AM

Poor old Shaun Marsh run out on 99!

We've all been there when on 99... There is just a little voice in the back of your head which says "go for it!"
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Post by: The Palmist on December 30, 2014, 04:08:56 AM
Dharmasena does it again  with Murali's lbw.
Title: Re: Australia v India 3rd test @ M.C.G
Post by: The Palmist on December 30, 2014, 04:10:50 AM
Is it hypocritical of Kohli to do the same thing he whinges publicly about? I don't have an issue if he gives as good as he gets, just don't play the victim in press conferences.
Good on Kohli to play Aussies at their own game. They have been bullying others for some time, good to see someone standing  up to them.
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Post by: Over Gully on December 30, 2014, 06:17:34 AM
Good on Kohli to play Aussies at their own game. They have been bullying others for some time, good to see someone standing  up to them.

Bullying? Hahaha it's professional sport mate, if you can't take the heat, go play on the village green. I admire Kohli for not only giving some lip, but actually backing it up by making runs. He has been sensational, and Aussies appreciate someone like that, even though he will more Han likely get jeered by the crowd.
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Post by: skip1973 on December 30, 2014, 07:11:59 AM
Bullying? Hahaha it's professional sport mate, if you can't take the heat, go play on the village green. I admire Kohli for not only giving some lip, but actually backing it up by making runs. He has been sensational, and Aussies appreciate someone like that, even though he will more Han likely get jeered by the crowd.
I agree with that that, it's the bitching and whinging he carries on with that lets him down. The ball that Johnson threw back the stumps was absolutely fine, he just got upset they dare do it to him, terrific player but a big sook.
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Post by: Bats_Entertainment on December 30, 2014, 08:05:10 AM
All the chat between players seems idiotic. Just shut up and play cricket!

Agreed.
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Post by: csnew on December 30, 2014, 08:15:17 AM
Don't see the problem with it. It's making for great entertainment.

Pretty defensive captaincy today from smith. Declaring late and then shaking hands with dhoni with 4 overs to go? Not many Aussie captains would have done that.
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Post by: csnew on December 30, 2014, 08:28:09 AM
Looks like Ashton agar has been called up for the 4th test. Really odd selection.
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Post by: Over Gully on December 30, 2014, 08:30:47 AM
Don't see the problem with it. It's making for great entertainment.

Pretty defensive captaincy today from smith. Declaring late and then shaking hands with dhoni with 4 overs to go? Not many Aussie captains would have done that.

Young kid (25) captaining his 2nd Test, I'd expect him to be slightly conservative. In hindsight an extra 20 overs may have made the difference, but in all a learning experience and one I'm sure he will be better for. Next time he's in that situation he may have a greater feel for the balance between having enough runs and also having enough time for the bowlers to take 10 wickets.
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Post by: skip1973 on December 30, 2014, 08:33:01 AM
Don't see the problem with it. It's making for great entertainment.

Pretty defensive captaincy today from smith. Declaring late and then shaking hands with dhoni with 4 overs to go? Not many Aussie captains would have done that.
Why at 2-0 up would you give the opposition a sniff? Not sure why we walked off early though, 24 balls to take 4 wickets, not much point calling it at that stage.
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Post by: smilley792 on December 30, 2014, 08:34:57 AM
Looks like Ashton agar has been called up for the 4th test. Really odd selection.

Tweet activity and bigbash commentators mention it too. But can't find any big news article on it.

Who's he replaced in the squad?
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Post by: Over Gully on December 30, 2014, 08:40:09 AM
Tweet activity and bigbash commentators mention it too. But can't find any big news article on it.

Who's he replaced in the squad?

Probably Siddle. Bizarre, he's the Ashley Giles of Australian cricket. Decent #8 batsman, can't bowl for peanuts. I'd have rather they'd gone really radical and selected one of the young trio of leggies, James Muirhead, Adam Zampa and Cameron Boyce. Just get a look at one and see if they are worth taking to England. Muirhead probably the pick of them but Zampa has improved a fair bit...
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Post by: smilley792 on December 30, 2014, 09:12:44 AM
It's appeared.  And he's merely added. Rest stay. Apparently if the pitch si right they may play two spinners.
Is that not preparing a pitch for Indian advantage?



Oh and the small news that Dhoni just retired from tests. Kohli to captain at the scg
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Post by: Gerry SA on December 30, 2014, 09:20:15 AM
How on Earth has Ashton Agar leapfrogged Steve O'Keefe? SoK must really be shaking his head.

New era for Indian crocket now. Dhoni's methods where old fashioned and out of date. Kohli's aggressive nature might, in the long run, make India more competitive.
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Post by: armie on December 30, 2014, 09:21:07 AM
Doubt that the result would have been different, but they should have bowled those 24 balls.
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Post by: csnew on December 30, 2014, 09:27:25 AM
It's appeared.  And he's merely added. Rest stay. Apparently if the pitch si right they may play two spinners.
Is that not preparing a pitch for Indian advantage?



Oh and the small news that Dhoni just retired from tests. Kohli to captain at the scg

The pitches have been pretty friendly to the Indians so far anyway. Different to the ones prepared for the ashes and the green tops on india's last tour.
Wonder if it's a marketing decision. Don't think cricket Australia wanted matches over in 3 days.

Dhoni should have given up the captaincy a couple of years ago. He's never looked interested in tests and let games slip by having defensive fields
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Post by: ozcfa on December 30, 2014, 09:31:33 AM
Dhoti has retired from test cricket. Kohli will captain in Sydney.  Interesting timing.
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Post by: eukaryote76 on December 30, 2014, 10:49:06 AM
Why at 2-0 up would you give the opposition a sniff? Not sure why we walked off early though, 24 balls to take 4 wickets, not much point calling it at that stage.
Did they have an appointment to get to? 4 overs takes no time. Can't think of a good cricketing, sporting or viewing reason for stopping short. Any ideas? I might even feel a bit cheated if I'd paid. Surely no gambling reason?
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Post by: Vic Nicholas on January 03, 2015, 10:07:38 AM
Did they have an appointment to get to? 4 overs takes no time. Can't think of a good cricketing, sporting or viewing reason for stopping short. Any ideas? I might even feel a bit cheated if I'd paid. Surely no gambling reason?

After back to back to back tests and all played on flat sub continental style pitches, there seemed little point in playing out those last four overs and risking injury to already fatigued bowlers.

Nothing to do with gambling.
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Post by: Buzz on January 03, 2015, 10:29:19 AM
Vic, are you as critical of these pitches which are similar to the UK ones you thought were rubbish? (as I did too by the way).
We will see a load more dead pitches this summer.
Title: Re: Australia v India 3rd test @ M.C.G
Post by: Vic Nicholas on January 23, 2015, 01:37:32 AM
Vic, are you as critical of these pitches which are similar to the UK ones you thought were rubbish? (as I did too by the way).
We will see a load more dead pitches this summer.


After India's last tour here where the celebrated batting line up of Sehwag, Gambhir, Dravid, Tendulkar, Kohli and Laxman was blown away with embarrassing ease in all four tests, the recent Indian tour of England caused shockwaves in the corridors of Cricket Australia. So inept were Kohli and co, that all four tests were feared  to last no more than three days each if Johnson, Harris and co bowled on green tinged wickets with bounce.

To guarantee five day tests and maximise TV advertising revenue, the pitches were deadened to a degree that I have not seen in my life time of watching cricket in Australia. The leading wicket taker was Nathan Bloody Lyon if I am not wrong?

I doubt that Smith and Kohli will ever make so many runs in a series again. It was shameful...and if I was into conspiracy theories, I would have blamed the BCCI for all four pitches resembling Indian pitches, but this has the fingerprints of CA all over it I am afraid.

http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/australia-v-india-2015-test-wickets-need-more-life-and-variety-writes-robert-craddock/story-fnp050m0-1227178946394?nk=6915f9aacb701feb4eb67a5d31b89231 (http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/cricket/australia-v-india-2015-test-wickets-need-more-life-and-variety-writes-robert-craddock/story-fnp050m0-1227178946394?nk=6915f9aacb701feb4eb67a5d31b89231)

http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report-bowler-ryan-harris-joins-mitchell-johnson-in-pitch-bashing-2049240 (http://www.dnaindia.com/sport/report-bowler-ryan-harris-joins-mitchell-johnson-in-pitch-bashing-2049240)
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Post by: Buzz on January 23, 2015, 10:14:15 AM
Thanks Vic - good response!