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Equipment => Gloves => Topic started by: Bat and Ball Cricket on July 09, 2015, 05:28:46 AM
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Hi all.
Just after some opinions on what Kookaburra have been doing over the last 18months or so with their gloves.
I've noticed that you can't buy the gloves a number of the Kookaburra sponsored players are using.
Happy to be corrected if I'm wrong, but for the last Australian summer, Chris Rodgers was using Sausage Bubble branded gloves, yet this design wasn't available through any of the major cricketing stores here in Brisbane or on the Kookaburra site.
More recently, i saw yesterday Ian Bell batted in sausage design gloves (sorry english boys, he wasn't there long enough for me to get a proper look at if they did have some splits, but he has always batted in sausage since being with Kooka from memory). However, on the UK Kookaburra site, the Kahuna range doesn't have a sausage design, with the Kahuna players glove being a 4 or 5 split glove.
Same for Brad Haddin with the Australian Kahuna range and Chris Rodgers with the Bubble II.
I noticed looking at the 15/16 Australian Kookaburra range, that there is only one sausage finger design (which none of the recognised Kooka Australian batsmen use).
I'm a fan of the extra protection that Sausage styles provide and frankly the like the traditional look.
I'm concerned that other brands will follow leaving no sausage style on the amateur market (and me gloveless!!!).
Do you think this is a trend the other brands will pick up on?
Thanks in advance for you thoughts.
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Kooka do a glove for their sponsored pro's, same as pads, all same specs just the different colour schemes. They have never been readily available to the public. Sausage is quite unpopular in the market but most brands well always offer 1 option. Apart from the colour the Warner gloves are a really nice sausage glove.
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Keep an eye on these guys....
http://stores.ebay.co.uk/lorimers4sport/ (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/lorimers4sport/)
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I Can't work unless I can write with a pen or type and I have two pairs of gloves made for Ricky Ponting, they are both sausage fingered and you can get them from the http://stores.ebay.co.uk/lorimers4sport/ (http://stores.ebay.co.uk/lorimers4sport/) as stated by Julesoak.
They are top quality and offer great protection and are cheaper than the top end Kookaburra player gloves on sale to the publlic.
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Yeah Lorimers seem to get a bit of left over players gear.
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Here is the direct link to the sausage style players gloves from Lorimer's sport ...
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-Kookaburra-Kahuna-Pro-Players-Batting-Gloves-Sizes-Mens-RH-LH-/171821869366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item6d9b5298a1 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-Kookaburra-Kahuna-Pro-Players-Batting-Gloves-Sizes-Mens-RH-LH-/171821869366?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item6d9b5298a1)
If you are specific about getting the latest and greatest then you can try Kookaburra verve 1000 batting gloves. I have the sausage style Kookaburra Ricochet gloves and find them to be very comfortable.
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There's half a dozen on there, few Kook/Impulse Bell style ones and some stock Bubble/Verve. Maybe Rogers just uses the English Bubble gloves?
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Recently bought the Impulse players from Lorimers, and if they have more I absolutely recommend them. Very comfortable, feel very sturdy but still lightweight. My only observation is that they are a bit bigger than the standard 950s, but that isn't much of an issue except that I prefer a fairly snug fit on my hands.
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Recently bought the Impulse players from Lorimers, and if they have more I absolutely recommend them. Very comfortable, feel very sturdy but still lightweight. My only observation is that they are a bit bigger than the standard 950s, but that isn't much of an issue except that I prefer a fairly snug fit on my hands.
Do you think the players versions are a bit bigger as a lot of the pros like/use inners? Or just a natural variation between models?
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Possibly, but I use inners as well. Fingers felt about half a cm longer, so not much difference really
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From the 3 kinds of Kookaburra Pro Players gloves I've had (CCX of Joe Denly, Kahuna of Solanki I believe and Recoil of Ian Bell) they are at opposite ends of the spectrum. The Joe Denly ones are More like Small Mens. The Ian Bell ones are the best fitting gloves I've had, but they'd also be closer to youths size and the Kahuna was the biggest of the lot, and I basically swam in those. The Recoil and CCX have Cougar Pittards Palms and the Kahuna had English Pittards. They all have minimal branding too.
I wear inners and I prefer the inners to fill out the glove and be tight, so the smaller fitting ones really worked for me.
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http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-Kookaburra-Impulse-Ian-Bell-Pro-Players-Batting-Gloves-Size-Mens-RH-/400948218995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item9c1c3b8d87 (http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-Kookaburra-Impulse-Ian-Bell-Pro-Players-Batting-Gloves-Size-Mens-RH-/400948218995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item9c1c3b8d87)
If these are Ian Bell's model, then I'd fully expect them to be very tight and closer to youths size.
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[url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-Kookaburra-Impulse-Ian-Bell-Pro-Players-Batting-Gloves-Size-Mens-RH-/400948218995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item9c1c3b8d87[/url] ([url]http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2014-Kookaburra-Impulse-Ian-Bell-Pro-Players-Batting-Gloves-Size-Mens-RH-/400948218995?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&var=&hash=item9c1c3b8d87[/url])
If these are Ian Bell's model, then I'd fully expect them to be very tight and closer to youths size.
The ones I bought from Lorimers are definitely slightly bigger than standard 950s, I have both in mens
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If these are Ian Bell's model, then I'd fully expect them to be very tight and closer to youths size.
I bought a pair of these exact ones from Lorrimers pre-season and whilst they aren't massive, they are bigger than Kook small mens size. The small mens fits me perfectly (pretty much the same size as SS/TON indian mens gloves) but these are slightly loose on the palm and have relatively long fingers. Maybe I have puny girly hands.
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Maybe they are just all over the shop as mine are definitely more like youths
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Maybe they are just all over the shop as mine are definitely more like youths
Maybe the sizing depends on what pro they were intended for
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Maybe the sizing depends on what pro they were intended for
Imran said he got Ian Bell ones too, but his were bigger than small men's, whereas the ones I have are definitely smaller (good for me as I have smallish hands), so a bit here and there. All that matters is that the gloves are quality :)
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Imran said he got Ian Bell ones too, but his were bigger than small men's, whereas the ones I have are definitely smaller (good for me as I have smallish hands), so a bit here and there. All that matters is that the gloves are quality :)
Agreed. Mine are a bit larger than mens, but undeniably great quality
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Thanks for all the input guys.
Since my post, i've picked up a couple of pairs of the SS Limited Edition Gloves.
I still find it quite interesting that Kooka make gloves for players, that they don't release to the rest of the market.
Cheers.
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How do you find the ss le gloves?
I find them quite a tight fit and that they don't breathe particularly well
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How do you find the ss le gloves?
I find them quite a tight fit and that they don't breathe particularly well
Phoenix, i generally prefer the tighter fit as i don't use inners.
I've only used them in the one net session so far. We had an 'Arctic Vortex' here in Australia last week.... (Ok so that still meant maximums of 15 degrees which isn't cold in actual terms, but it was cold for us ok lol). I wasn't sweating up much of a storm.
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Jos Buttler uses split finger gloves with the Verve 1000 design. Ian Bell uses the sauage Verve 1000 gloves with Kahuna branding
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Kooka do a glove for their sponsored pro's, same as pads, all same specs just the different colour schemes. They have never been readily available to the public. Sausage is quite unpopular in the market but most brands well always offer 1 option. Apart from the colour the Warner gloves are a really nice sausage glove.
It bemuses me as to why Kook supply their sponsored players with gear different to their product range. To me, thats admitting that your retail product is not up to standard. Plenty of other brands have product good enough for the pros to play with at the highest level.
Yet another reason to stay away from Kookaburra.
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It bemuses me as to why Kook supply their sponsored players with gear different to their product range. To me, thats admitting that your retail product is not up to standard. Plenty of other brands have product good enough for the pros to play with at the highest level.
Yet another reason to stay away from Kookaburra.
Or they create bespoke wear for their pro's and the top of the range is just as good for us "mortals". I'd say the protection is more than adequate and I use their 800 range.
They provide gear to all levels of cricket, which is better than just having their sponsored gear at expensive prices.
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To be honest, the top range kit will most likely be as protective as the pros stuff but the pros might want a specific shape? ??? Another tweet to Ian Bell maybe?
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I think its more the pro picks what's style shape weight of softs they want and the brand puts the colours of the range they want them to advertise as very few of the bats are the same shape as the range they advertise so same for softs
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Are these the gloves people are referring to?
(http://st3.cricketcountry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Joe-Burns-of-Australia-bats.jpg)
You can buy them, but they are only in one line per year. This season they can be purhcased from the Greg Chappell Cricket Centre as part of the Patriot (Green, White, Gold) line up:
http://www.cricketcentre.com.au/cricket-batting-gloveskookaburrapatriot-c-20389_20489_20758.html (http://www.cricketcentre.com.au/cricket-batting-gloveskookaburrapatriot-c-20389_20489_20758.html)
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Are these the gloves people are referring to?
([url]http://st3.cricketcountry.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Joe-Burns-of-Australia-bats.jpg[/url])
You can buy them, but they are only in one line per year. This season they can be purhcased from the Greg Chappell Cricket Centre as part of the Patriot (Green, White, Gold) line up:
[url]http://www.cricketcentre.com.au/cricket-batting-gloveskookaburrapatriot-c-20389_20489_20758.html[/url] ([url]http://www.cricketcentre.com.au/cricket-batting-gloveskookaburrapatriot-c-20389_20489_20758.html[/url])
Those colours are the Plasmas. They're also sausage fingers, and the hand padding doesn't look like the shape of the Patriot top range.
A sausage fingered Plasma doesn't exist in their 2015 range - maybe these are recoloured Xenons from last season?
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I think its more the pro picks what's style shape weight of softs they want and the brand puts the colours of the range they want them to advertise as very few of the bats are the same shape as the range they advertise so same for softs
Absolutely that - the pros get given their range for the season and based on their personal preferences the gloves will be made to match. Just a case of using the different materials and colours and applying them to the pro's preferred design. Split fingers into sausage (Bell Kahuna and Carberry Cadejo) and sausage into split finger (Buttler Verve).
I just keep checking Lorimers on ebay...
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It bemuses me as to why Kook supply their sponsored players with gear different to their product range. To me, thats admitting that your retail product is not up to standard. Plenty of other brands have product good enough for the pros to play with at the highest level.
Yet another reason to stay away from Kookaburra.
Doesn't make good marketing sense from Kooka i have to say.
When you have big name pros using your product, little Johnny in his mid to late teens wants what the pros use. How pi$$ed is he that he can't have the same gloves as Ian Bell his hero....
Ah well, he can buy the same gloves that Cook uses, hello Gray Nic! Easiest sale GN have ever made!
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Doesn't make good marketing sense from Kooka i have to say.
When you have big name pros using your product, little Johnny in his mid to late teens wants what the pros use. How pi$$ed is he that he can't have the same gloves as Ian Bell his hero....
Ah well, he can buy the same gloves that Cook uses, hello Gray Nic! Easiest sale GN have ever made!
Let's be honest, the forum is in the minority when it comes to noticing these things.
Your average player won't care who made their bat, or if it's pro pressed. They may never even measure the edges! They'll see player X using that bat, so buy one with the same stickers. That's good enough for them. Chances are they won't notice/care it's a totally different shape to the one on the telly. They have the bat they want because X uses it.
As for gloves, they'll see Ian Bell using green ones, and know he uses Kook, so will buy some green Kook ones in the shop. Job done.
We do like to overthink things here, the knowledge shared can be both a blessing and a curse for kit geeks!
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Hence why New Balance might have a field day next year if they can get enough product into the shops.
Long live King ROOOOOOOT!!
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I was going to use New Balance as an example actually!
Look at how many colts (and adults, for that matter) are using a GM Six6. How many of those are down to the Roooooooot factor?
How many of those kids (and again, adults for that matter!) will now have a "Joe Root New Balance" on their list to Santa?
The shape Rooooooooot uses doesn't matter. If New Balance can meet the demand for bats they will sell a ridiculous amount.
I think the orange & black range will sell well too, expecting to see lots of New Balance bats being used in 2016.