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Equipment => Bats => Bat Care => Topic started by: procricket on February 28, 2016, 02:19:17 PM
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Well i may have quite a number of bats but not much compares to my favourite shape and bat my uglier Tonto which was made in a batch of two.
Well opened it up and used double width fiberglass tape and twine off another bat a bit of bat glue and hey presto.
No clamp insight also used a kitchen knife to open it up no proper tools at all!!
As you see done in my kitchen to the annoyance of my wife!!!!
It has worked i'm glad to say i value all my bats and try to look after them
Bit of a side theory is my own thought, be careful using mega grain bats on the machine i'm convinced with the lack of sap and also the heartwood they are more prone to delamination due to the compound nature of the balls on the machine(maybe me setting it always on half vollies as well).
Anyway back to what i love doing the best messing with bats!!!
Before
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After (needs finer sanding and cross weave on but come out ok)
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will take the wife out for carvery she is not impressed!!!!
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Bola balls ruin bats. People disagree but that is my experience.
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Top effort mate
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Bola balls ruin bats. People disagree but that is my experience.
I think if you used them initially it ok however i have seen too many delaminated through over use like i said i think it to to do with more grains make it stiffer from the off and lack of sap and the face pulls off.
The bat was worth saving :D
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Bola balls ruin bats. People disagree but that is my experience.
So do real cricket balls ;)
I've found the best way to prolong a bats life is to never hit anything with it (that's my excuse, and I'm sticking with it!) :-[
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So do real cricket balls ;)
Relative to Bola, no. You keep hitting same spots with Bola. Real balls and real bowlers are not so consistent.
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The Kooka bowling machine ones do far less damage to the bat. I think their made of rubber
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Relative to Bola, no. You keep hitting same spots with Bola. Real balls and real bowlers are not so consistent.
So your not blaming the actual balls your blaming the consistency in which you hit them?
In that sense. Practice ruins bats! Time to buy several net bats people.
Good work on the repair dave.
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So your not blaming the actual balls your blaming the consistency in which you hit them?
In that sense. Practice ruins bats! Time to buy several net bats people.
Hard balls damage bats but with Bola, it is a hard ball hitting consistently in the same areas...
Not all practice ruins bats. Practice with hard, cheap balls, and Bola will do the trick though. People should buy several net bats, it'd be a smart investment. Sometime hard-pressed bats make great net bats too. No Bola, cheap balls would make a dent in those bats. :D
Here in my hands (technically on the trunk), are bunch of old leather balls and a Bola ball. Guess which one is harder? :D
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Hard balls damage bats but with Bola, it is a hard ball hitting consistently in the same areas...
I'm safe to use a Bola then, I could face the same ball 4 times, and would use the inside edge, the outside edge, the toe & miss one. (Not necessarily in that order!)
Some say I'm a crap batsman, but it's actually a well thought out plan to make my kit last longer! :D
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I'm safe to use a Bola then, I could face the same ball 4 times, and would use the inside edge, the outside edge, the toe & miss one. (Not necessarily in that order
HAHAHHAHAHA
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obviously practising with ball which have no leather left on them help the life span of your bat...
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Bats break it life of a big of wood being hit at speed by something hard...
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I'm safe to use a Bola then, I could face the same ball 4 times, and would use the inside edge, the outside edge, the toe & miss one. (Not necessarily in that order!)
Some say I'm a crap batsman, but it's actually a well thought out plan to make my kit last longer! :D
Really? You'd get the bat to three of them?
You've improved [emoji6]
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I'm safe to use a Bola then, I could face the same ball 4 times, and would use the inside edge, the outside edge, the toe & miss one. (Not necessarily in that order!)
Some say I'm a crap batsman, but it's actually a well thought out plan to make my kit last longer! :D
Hahahaa I've found my excuse now [emoji1303][emoji1303]
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I thought delamination was caused due to having an anti scuff on for too long?
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I thought delamination was caused due to having an anti scuff on for too long?
Why?
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I thought delamination was caused due to having an anti scuff on for too long?
That is one of the best ones I've seen on here in ages!
Go out and buy a bat, any bat (actually get 3).
Apply a helicopter scoff sheet to one, a fibreglass scuff sheet to one and leave the 3rd one naked.
Leave them all untouched for a few years then check back on them. I guarantee none of them will have de-laminated! It has nothing to do with scuff sheets being applied or not...
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I thought delamination was caused due to having an anti scuff on for too long?
No pal it caused by the pressed area in on the face coming away from the softer under wood causing a hollowing sound mate.
Really good players normally get it localised in the middle area us club biffers tend to get it due to the bats old age or usage.
You can sometimes hear a double sound like a crack.
Scuff sheets will not protect you from delamination much hope this helps pal
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That is one of the best ones I've seen on here in ages!
Go out and buy a bat, any bat (actually get 3).
Apply a helicopter scoff sheet to one, a fibreglass scuff sheet to one and leave the 3rd one naked.
Leave them all untouched for a few years then check back on them. I guarantee none of them will have de-laminated! It has nothing to do with scuff sheets being applied or not...
Are you the self proclaimed billy big balls of everything to do with cricket bats?
Not the first time of late you've come across a complete [emoji348][emoji773]
Gone are the days when anyone could ask anything about cricket bats without someone sarcastically commenting.....
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Jesus, no need to fly off the handle there!
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Are you the self proclaimed billy big balls of everything to do with cricket bats?
Not the first time of late you've come across a complete [emoji348][emoji773]
Gone are the days when anyone could ask anything about cricket bats without someone sarcastically commenting.....
Yes, if you like, in the same way you're clearly the self proclaimed forum policeman.
And I don't know what an emoji 348 or emoji 773 is but I'll assume it's not complimentary.
If I'm not allowed to answer a question any more I'm not sure what the purpose of a forum is though.
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Billy big balls? Surely you're confusing him with Mr Cattus?
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I thank you!
Billy Big Balls v Captain Grumpy - this should be fun!
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Yes, if you like, in the same way you're clearly the self proclaimed forum policeman.
And I don't know what an emoji 348 or emoji 773 is but I'll assume it's not complimentary.
If I'm not allowed to answer a question any more I'm not sure what the purpose of a forum is though.
I don't entirely disagree with you, but there is a nice way to answer someones question and a not so nice way. We've all been new on here at some point and asked questions that might be obvious to others, all that's needed is a straight answer.
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I don't entirely disagree with you, but there is a nice way to answer someones question and a not so nice way. We've all been new on here at some point and asked questions that might be obvious to others, all that's needed is a straight answer.
Amen, I agree completely
And thanks Dave for the confidence boost, my match bat has delamination in the middle of the bat :) must mean I'm a really good player
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Oh dear what have I started!
I read somewhere that as the bat is dryer with a scuff sheet on it that a bat is more likely to suffer from it. But I'm obviously wrong
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=35193.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=35193.0)
This was my bat that suffered from it
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Billy Big Balls v Captain Grumpy - this should be fun!
I'll get this out the way now, and let everyone take a dig at me on the back of itif they feel the need to do so.
As well as a fat stomach I have a fairly thick skin anyway...
@e4sby obviously has an issue with me, (and a couple of people clearly agree with him), which I don't really have a problem with. If you like me great, if you don't, I probably wouldn't like me either as I can know I can be a bit of a tit sometimes - I'll put both hands up and admit that.
As for making sarcastic comments, that is just me I'm afraid. Like it or loathe it, I'm not changing for some bloke on the interweb. If I have come across as whatever an emoji473846 I can only apologise.
I can honestly say I am not trying to be Billy big bollox (or Sammy small sack) in anything I post. I'm sorry if I have rubbed anyone up the wrong way, it was not my intention in the slightest.
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And I don't know what an emoji 348 or emoji 773 is but I'll assume it's not complimentary.
My money's on...
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I'll get this out the way now, and let everyone take a dig at me on the back of itif they feel the need to do so.
As well as a fat stomach I have a fairly thick skin anyway...
@e4sby obviously has an issue with me, (and a couple of people clearly agree with him), which I don't really have a problem with. If you like me great, if you don't, I probably wouldn't like me either as I can know I can be a bit of a tit sometimes - I'll put both hands up and admit that.
As for making sarcastic comments, that is just me I'm afraid. Like it or loathe it, I'm not changing for some bloke on the interweb. If I have come across as whatever an emoji473846 I can only apologise.
I can honestly say I am not trying to be Billy big bollox (or Sammy small sack) in anything I post. I'm sorry if I have rubbed anyone up the wrong way, it was not my intention in the slightest.
I like you - you're funny and cuddly, and I bet your face goes a bit red when you're angry.
In any case - if you had rubber me up the wrong way, I'm sure I'd remember :D
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Are people confusing cam with me?
I thought i was the resident *******(what Danny said)
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if we are having a pop this afternoon top this one:
I walked out to bat last year....ok.ok.ok I wear a headband when batting to stop the sweat getting under my helmet and as I was talking guard the slips said:
'' Oi mate! who do you think you are Olivia Newton ******** John?''
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if we are having a pop this afternoon top this one:
I walked out to bat last year....ok.ok.ok I wear a headband when batting to stop the sweat getting under my helmet and as I was talking guard the slips said:
'' Oi mate! who do you think you are Olivia Newton ******** John?''
The 1970s just called, they want there sledge back.
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Will you all (No Swearing Please) off and chat your (No Swearing Please) somewhere else please in another topic.
Lad asked a simple question and ended up with everything....
Maybe in the pavilion a new topic called general dogsdoo
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@walkingwicket37 I don't have a problem with you whatsoever, I just feel your sarcasm of late has touched on arrogance towards new members of the forum asking questions that may seem to you basic but to them they might not be. We all have to start from somewhere.
I don't expect you to change for me - just felt I had to mention it.
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Chaps, take a look at the Forums Strap line...
"Love the game, share the knowledge"
Some forum members may have a greater knowledge base than others, the purpose of the forum is to share this with each other so that those that are at the start of their nerdy right of passage are better informed as they travel along the road.
Back on topic my bat too delaminated in the middle which clearly means I AM Colin Big Kahunas on here anyway 😀
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if we are having a pop this afternoon top this one:
I walked out to bat last year....ok.ok.ok I wear a headband when batting to stop the sweat getting under my helmet and as I was talking guard the slips said:
'' Oi mate! who do you think you are Olivia Newton ******** John?''
That's a good one Carlo up there with what was said to me last season as i am taking guard : Hey mate there's s**t on the end of your bat so I take a look and the slips shout no mate the other end.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WpYeekQkAdc)
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Sometimes a little knowledge can make people condescending
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Wow, seems like this has gone off topic slightly! Let me know Dave if this post isn't adhering to the topic of this thread and I'll take it down. :)
I have a few facts/theories on delamination, either told to me by people in the know, or something I've found or thought of:
- Delamination is the lifting of the stiffer upper layer from the main body of the bat.
- If used for a decent amount of time, then delamination should occur naturally.
- Drier bats tend to delaminate sooner due to a few reasons - 1. Less moisture means less adhesion, as the glue which holds the fibres all together is stiffer, therefore a bit more brittle. 2. Think of water and ice, if you apply stress then remove it, the body of water will return to its normal state, while ice may fracture. So the more water present in the system, the higher the likelihood it will recover from the deformation. (ie. Heartwood lacks sap and tends to lack moisture compared to sapwood, so I've had bats which have delaminated in the heartwood and not sapwood.) I also think Dave mentioned something about not mistaking soft pressing for dryness, as drier clefts will dent more readily even if the pressing is the same.
- L&W say that bowling machine balls damage bats, due to the lack of time to allow for the wood to 'settle'. (Also mentioned by Dave earlier that he finds it can cause delamination) It could also be down to the deformation of the ball upon impact, making the bat absorb more energy. (Not entirely sure, would have to model it) I was initially skeptical about the bola balls, but it does have some scientific sense to it.
- Delamination happening early can be down to dryness, as mentioned in an earlier point, but can also be down to prep. Don't go full out guns blazing at the beginning, but start steady and even. Make sure you knock in the middle of your bat for a bit of time too, don't completely avoid or spend ages on it.
- Finally, if you're knocking in a bat with a scuff on it, and it feels like it has delaminated upon knocking, don't remove the scuff, but get in contact with the batmaker/retailer. Removing the scuff may mean you void the warranty. (Happened to @smokem with his Newbury Mjolnir)
Sorry for the long post, just a bit bored and waiting for my program to finish running... :-[
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Great post pal
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Thank you for that explanation so I was sort of right ;-) I knew I read somewhere that an anti scuff sheet didn't help matters and would make sense with my m&h solution suffering from it after having a scuff on it for such a long period of time and getting a lot of use.
Amazed how quickly all of this escalated and thank you for those who have "stuck up" for me - I am not a new member (member since 2009) buy just haven't posted a great deal in that time but have been reading the forums regularly in that time and enjoying it.
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My money's on...
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You can put cricket balls through Bola machines with no problems, if you are concerned about the effect on bats of the bola ball.
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You can put cricket balls through Bola machines with no problems, if you are concerned about the effect on bats of the bola ball.
Wears the leather on the balls out awfully quickly though!
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I have used the fielding machine before it was kinder on balls
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Wears the leather on the balls out awfully quickly though!
I've seen a brand new ball destroyed by a Bola. Looked like my dog had got hold of it after a few rounds through the machine.
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I've seen a brand new ball destroyed by a Bola. Looked like my fog had got hold of it after a few rounds through the machine.
Your fog? After a particularly spicy curry the night before I presume?
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Well I have a bag of old soft cricket balls and they seem to be ok and lasting fine going through the bola machine. Maybe because they are Softand out of shape they machine does not affect them so much !!
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Does using cricket balls in a Bola do any damage to the machine?
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Does using cricket balls in a Bola do any damage to the machine?
not instantly, but it will wear out the wheels used to spit out the ball.
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Fielding machine has different wheels mate