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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Gray Nicolls => Topic started by: langer17 on March 29, 2016, 12:10:54 PM
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Saw this on the gccc YouTube channel. Can't imagine these would be any lighter than 2lb12oz's.
https://youtu.be/JExhg2qb2nA
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I was just about to post this!
I'll have one in 2lbs 8 please... :o
I notice the weight isn't mentioned in this video
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$899 AUD which once you were to add import/delivery etc I guess would amount to well over £500. What?
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Gimme gimme gimme!!
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$899 AUD which once you were to add import/delivery etc I guess would amount to well over £500. What?
Take the aus tax of though.
The tax that came of my Warner was more than delivery, so was only 300 before the customs man robbed me.......
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How much did customs charge if you don't mind me asking?
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Quote from GCCC website:
GRAY-NICOLLS 50 PLUS NAT EW CRICKET BAT SH
(BAG1008)
Handcrafted from Grade 1 English willow unique to GRAY-NICOLLS
Weight = 2lb 12oz - 2lb 15oz
Sweet Spot Position = Everywhere
Handcrafted in Australia using the lightest available grade 1 willow clefts, the name says it all. With all bats weighing in below 3lb and a guaranteed minimum 50mm edge, coupled with a pickup that makes them feel 4oz lighter than the scale weight, this special range of bats is not for the faint hearted and will only be made in very limited numbers.
Huge bow
Light pickup
50mm+ edges
POWERCURVE face enhances the feel of stroke play
12 piece cane handle
Natural finish
Made in Australia
Price:AUD $899.00
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a pickup that makes them feel 4oz lighter than the scale weight
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How much did customs charge if you don't mind me asking?
94 quid
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First member to get one, do a PUI.. Has to be special! :p
Any UK companies shelving this?
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I NEED IT NOW!!!
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Any UK companies shelving this?
I imagine @procricket B3 could sort something out in a similar profile and I did challenge @Red Ink Cricket to have a go.
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Wonder how long that bat would last and if they would replace it if it cracks within the year
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Bat looks impressive no doubt, and I definitely want it....but I like how in the video he phrased the thin handle as a big plus, as it "allows you to double grip". Marketing genius.
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I imagine @procricket B3 could sort something out in a similar profile and I did challenge @Red Ink Cricket to have a go.
Unless JS Wright changes their cleft dimensions, very few companies will be able to do it. You basically need cleft suppliers outside of JS Wright, which is a very small percentage of the market.
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Unless JS Wright changes their cleft dimensions, very few companies will be able to do it. You basically need cleft suppliers outside of JS Wright, which is a very small percentage of the market.
Kippax, H4L cut their own clefts, B3 has access to oversized clefts as well
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I imagine @procricket B3 could sort something out in a similar profile and I did challenge @Red Ink Cricket to have a go.
GN, big bats, have a proper bow and perform better.
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Unless JS Wright changes their cleft dimensions, very few companies will be able to do it. You basically need cleft suppliers outside of JS Wright, which is a very small percentage of the market.
JS Wright pretty much has a monopoly on cleft business . Only other players that I know of are Kippax and H4L who produce big clefts. GN is providing their customers a great service by producing these types of bats. I will have one please!
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The blade is surely shorter, no?
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Re watched the video with Warner replica in hand.
The 50+ doesn't seem anywhere near as bowed as the Warner.
The 50+ has the full knob on the end of the handle, the Warner doesn't as its a super short handle (ssh)
Apart from that not much else to say looking at a video.
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^ That is probably because it is not a Warner replica. I do think it will have a good bow - my opinion.
Also, Usman Khawaja replicas will be released by GN. They just look lovely!
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^ That is probably because it is not a Warner replica. I do think it will have a good bow - my opinion.
Also, Usman Khawaja replicas will be released by GN. They just look lovely!
Well aware it isn't, was comparing it.
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I imagine @procricket B3 could sort something out in a similar profile and I did challenge @Red Ink Cricket to have a go.
Once I've cleared the orders I have I'm going to give it a bash and see what I can do
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goodness me that is huge 😱
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It's rubber, blown up ;)
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Re watched the video with Warner replica in hand.
The 50+ doesn't seem anywhere near as bowed as the Warner.
The 50+ has the full knob on the end of the handle, the Warner doesn't as its a super short handle (ssh)
Apart from that not much else to say looking at a video.
Sample I looked at was 2.15, pick was good but still a heavy bat, I thought all the Warners I have seen picked up better.
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I would love to see Matt attempt to make some thing similar, it would be an absolute beast. It would probably need registering as a lethal weapon.
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I wonder if they are going to release any other exotic bats in their new range?
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Not trying to be alarmist or anything, but very soon there is going to be a serious injury (or a fatality) on the field thanks to these bats. Either the umpire at the bowler's end or the bowler is going to cop one hit straight at them and they won't have time to react. There has to be some kind of size restriction on the edges/spine of a bat. These things are enormous. Would I like to try one in the nets? Absolutely yes, just to see what it's like batting with something that Warner would take to the crease, but surely bats can't get much bigger, can they?
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another nail in the coffin for all bowlers - how glad am i that i keep wicket too - do not have to bowl at someone using one of these or field in their striking zone!!!!!
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Not trying to be alarmist or anything, but very soon there is going to be a serious injury (or a fatality) on the field thanks to these bats. Either the umpire at the bowler's end or the bowler is going to cop one hit straight at them and they won't have time to react. There has to be some kind of size restriction on the edges/spine of a bat. These things are enormous. Would I like to try one in the nets? Absolutely yes, just to see what it's like batting with something that Warner would take to the crease, but surely bats can't get much bigger, can they?
Umpires can request a helmet if they want.
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another nail in the coffin for all bowlers - how glad am i that i keep wicket too - do not have to bowl at someone using one of these or field in their striking zone!!!!!
Minimum weight of these bats is 2-12. Not many clubies like to use 2-12 bats.
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Not trying to be alarmist or anything, but very soon there is going to be a serious injury (or a fatality) on the field thanks to these bats. Either the umpire at the bowler's end or the bowler is going to cop one hit straight at them and they won't have time to react. There has to be some kind of size restriction on the edges/spine of a bat. These things are enormous. Would I like to try one in the nets? Absolutely yes, just to see what it's like batting with something that Warner would take to the crease, but surely bats can't get much bigger, can they?
I think this is purely cosmetic (but yeah i still want it)...may be hard to believe, but I am going with my old physics text book here: Force = mass (i.e weight) × acceleration
The extra power we see today is because of much stronger guys who practice power hitting like never before. You hand warner a much smaller 2lb 15 bat than this...the umpire will still be in the same danger.
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I called Gray Nicolls Australia and they said it will hit shelves in July/August.
That is going to be a long wait.
I think there will b minimalistic difference between this and Usman Khawaja's profile as it doesn't have exaggerated bow like David Warner's.
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In the 16-22yards between the where a bowler or umpire will be when a batsmen smokes it back, I honestly don't think the reaction time between this bat and a standard powerbow for instance, will make a difference.
It's gonna be milliseconds, it's not even gonna be a second difference.
The difference comes from the intent in today's game. Players train to hit hard, to be stronger, to be fitter, practice range hitting.
Chris gayle smoking one straight with a standard cleft, or with a low density cleft is still going to cause issues if it hits either of the two people we are worried about.
Look at the pic on Twitter, was antherton, and Fairbrother sat outside Taj Mahal, both looked like skinny teens, then under was root, and buttler recreating pic, They look liked sportsman who train in comparison
(http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h76/smilley792/42A2A792-A291-4AA9-9FDD-3F004D68D723_zps5yxrsdld.png) (http://s61.photobucket.com/user/smilley792/media/42A2A792-A291-4AA9-9FDD-3F004D68D723_zps5yxrsdld.png.html)
Today's cricketers are just built better.
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Watched the film
Blokes clever in his description of the tricks used to get a little of the weight down.
At the end of the day, it's a big old lump of dead weight that's gotta be picked up before a shot can be played.
You've still gotta generate bat speed to get distance and power into shots.
We dont all face 80mph plus bowling.
Warners bats an over dried cleft,(that's been said before) as has the fact batters are stronger.
I remember years ago, blokes batting with SS jumbos etc and only ever connecting with the odd one.
None of the above is gonna stop me having a go at making a khawaja rep
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Hahahah. I love this!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmBrHWgj5cA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WmBrHWgj5cA)
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(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd414/skipper1973/502.jpg) (http://s1218.photobucket.com/user/skipper1973/media/502.jpg.html)
Took a pic of the sample 50+ dwarfing the Warner I have, those with a Warner will appreciate how big this 50+ is.
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What is the weight of that 50+ skip?
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2.15
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Whist it is clearly a bigger bat, I don't feel the picture is giving a fair comparison, the Warner bat is showing quite a bit of the face, whilst the 50+ none. Thus it seems to me the difference is being exaggerated by the picture.
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The 50+ looks a beautiful shape regardless of weight, how does it differ from the Warner?
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Doesn't matter how big your weapon is if you can't use it properly!
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That is big bat! It looks like a shorter blade and longer handle. give it time we'll all be using a mallet!!
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Whist it is clearly a bigger bat, I don't feel the picture is giving a fair comparison, the Warner bat is showing quite a bit of the face, whilst the 50+ none. Thus it seems to me the difference is being exaggerated by the picture.
Not exaggerated at all, I took a few extra pics I will put up later. Bat isn't for sale either by the way, just had the rep by today with his sample.
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That is big bat! It looks like a shorter blade and longer handle. give it time we'll all be using a mallet!!
It's not a shorter blade and unlike the Warner has a full length handle.
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(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd414/skipper1973/DSC_0072.jpg)
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd414/skipper1973/DSC_0075.jpg)
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd414/skipper1973/DSC_0066.jpg)
(http://i1218.photobucket.com/albums/dd414/skipper1973/DSC_0069.jpg)
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my eye are confused, my brain doesn't function. how is that even possible!!
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The bat on the end is a 3lb 4oz.
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Thanks for sharing the pics skip, How much will these retail at @skip1973 ?
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They are high end, I think from memory around $850.
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2-15 is way too heavy for me!
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2-15 is way too heavy for me!
Yeah me to unfortunately, it's almost too big, pictures don't do it justice size wise.
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That is a magnificent WMD
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got this from Kingsgrove Sports , haven't received it yet as they are knocking it in as of now . According to @skip1973 its 2.15 but feels more like 2.12 its the same bat which he has posted above in the thread. will do full review of the bat once i receive it . For now here are some of the pictures sent to me .
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o707/ursmasti/FullSizeRender_zpsbn0eqeyh.jpg) (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/ursmasti/media/FullSizeRender_zpsbn0eqeyh.jpg.html)
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o707/ursmasti/FullSizeRender_6_zps2suok470.jpg) (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/ursmasti/media/FullSizeRender_6_zps2suok470.jpg.html)
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o707/ursmasti/FullSizeRender_5_zpsp0kws0ql.jpg) (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/ursmasti/media/FullSizeRender_5_zpsp0kws0ql.jpg.html)
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o707/ursmasti/FullSizeRender_1_zpsyxbluehb.jpg) (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/ursmasti/media/FullSizeRender_1_zpsyxbluehb.jpg.html)
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o707/ursmasti/FullSizeRender_2_zpsqiuggfqj.jpg) (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/ursmasti/media/FullSizeRender_2_zpsqiuggfqj.jpg.html)
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o707/ursmasti/FullSizeRender_3_zpsnnaik6wn.jpg) (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/ursmasti/media/FullSizeRender_3_zpsnnaik6wn.jpg.html)
(http://i1339.photobucket.com/albums/o707/ursmasti/FullSizeRender_4_zpszmkhhjgc.jpg) (http://s1339.photobucket.com/user/ursmasti/media/FullSizeRender_4_zpszmkhhjgc.jpg.html)
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50+ looking gorgeous @ursmasti
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Interesting to see how long in practice the bats actually last. Having seen smileys in the flesh the aussie GNs are massive, but of course very expensive
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That looks incredible, love the 50+ emblem too. Please change the grip to a white one though, thanks. Haha
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Nice looking bat, but a bit above 2 8.
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Just wow.. some really exciting bats came out this year.
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Interesting to see how long in practice the bats actually last. Having seen smileys in the flesh the aussie GNs are massive, but of course very expensive
No more expensive than top of the line Salix, GN, GM or most UK brands top offering. Plus they can't make them like this.
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another nail in the coffin for all bowlers - how glad am i that i keep wicket too - do not have to bowl at someone using one of these or field in their striking zone!!!!!
I'm sure wicket keepers would love this. Bigger edges = more area to nick behind.
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Price has gone up a tad since I bought mine.
But, as skip say. I have a few top end b3's, h4l custom, Affinty custom that were all similar price, but non near this for size of bat.
But size isn't want impresses people I've find. It's the ridicolous pick up. Everyone has the same reaction when they pick it up. WTF how is this possible.
Is it dry, nope not imo.
Is it soft. Nope my h4l Nv was much softer and has took a lot more damage since the begging off the year.
Is it a gun! Yes yes it is.
Does it sound like Jason Roys! Yes it does when I actually hit it......
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will these bats ever reach the uk market?
ps. sorry for committing on an old post.
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Sweet Spot Position = Everywhere
I think this one is questionable.
The toe is super thin on these and they have extra scalloping at the lower end of the bat to compensate for the wider edge. The toe just might spit quite easily.
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Price has gone up a tad since I bought mine.
But, as skip say. I have a few top end b3's, h4l custom, Affinty custom that were all similar price, but non near this for size of bat.
But size isn't want impresses people I've find. It's the ridicolous pick up. Everyone has the same reaction when they pick it up. WTF how is this possible.
Is it dry, nope not imo.
Is it soft. Nope my h4l Nv was much softer and has took a lot more damage since the begging off the year.
Is it a gun! Yes yes it is.
Does it sound like Jason Roys! Yes it does when I actually hit it......
can you post some detail pics?
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Doesn't matter how big your weapon is if you can't use it properly!
This!
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I think this one is questionable.
The toe is super thin on these and they have extra scalloping at the lower end of the bat to compensate for the wider edge. The toe just might spit quite easily.
Toes far from super thin and no scalloping anywhere on mine. Have you seen one?
Toes are dead on most bats, this no exception, but once an inch and half up the blade it sings.
Mine is here
http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=35949.0 (http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=35949.0)
Rest of my bats, search my profile for them.
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Toes far from super thin and no scalloping anywhere on mine. Have you seen one?
Toes are dead on most bats, this no exception, but once an inch and half up the blade it sings.
Mine is here
[url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=35949.0[/url] ([url]http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=35949.0[/url])
Rest of my bats, search my profile for them.
One of these bats does looked scalloped unlike your Chris which i have to admit is one of the most impressive bats i have ever set eyes on...
yours toe far from thin looks that way because of the sheer size of the thing...
great bat
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I think this one is questionable.
The toe is super thin on these and they have extra scalloping at the lower end of the bat to compensate for the wider edge. The toe just might spit quite easily.
Scalloped???
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180412_HDR_zpswo43resj.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180412_HDR_zpswo43resj.jpg.html)
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180508_HDR_zpsnkjyktri.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180508_HDR_zpsnkjyktri.jpg.html)
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180159_HDR_zps2wloaoxq.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180159_HDR_zps2wloaoxq.jpg.html)
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I love this bat. I don't even care if i could use it in a game, just using it in the nets would be cool.
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What's the difference between the Warner and the 50+ in profile terms? I am not referring to size so much as shape.
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What's the difference between the Warner and the 50+ in profile terms? I am not referring to size so much as shape.
i think the only difference is the Warner profile has a super short handle where the 50 plus has a normal ength handle
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i think the only difference is the Warner profile has a super short handle where the 50 plus has a normal ength handle
I believe the spine height of Kaboom is higher & also the sweet spot is higher. GN 50+ looks much more balanced as a shape than the warner.
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i reckon that the 50+ stickers look way better then the kabooms, which try way to hard.
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Scalloped???
([url]http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180412_HDR_zpswo43resj.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180412_HDR_zpswo43resj.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180508_HDR_zpsnkjyktri.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180508_HDR_zpsnkjyktri.jpg.html[/url])
([url]http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180159_HDR_zps2wloaoxq.jpg[/url]) ([url]http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/GN%2050%20Plus/20160529_180159_HDR_zps2wloaoxq.jpg.html[/url])
I stand corrected.
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Thats serious that shape proper nice that badger.......
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That is a belting looking bat!!
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The shape is amazing but very thin toe for my liking..
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Mine has around 28mm toe
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The shape is amazing but very thin toe for my liking..
Not that small
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/GN%2050%20Plus/ECE98E3A-FFA2-436C-A7D1-01770B4E995D_zpsivocwt9i.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/GN%2050%20Plus/ECE98E3A-FFA2-436C-A7D1-01770B4E995D_zpsivocwt9i.jpg.html)
Shoulders are fair too
(http://i1156.photobucket.com/albums/p570/marcinadelaide/GN%2050%20Plus/D01FED04-E3E8-42DE-92DB-85ACD869758E_zpsq9tujgrx.jpg) (http://s1156.photobucket.com/user/marcinadelaide/media/GN%2050%20Plus/D01FED04-E3E8-42DE-92DB-85ACD869758E_zpsq9tujgrx.jpg.html)
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They're not small. They just look small because its so humungous.
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I was sure the toe was looking small due to it's overall size, thanks for the confirmation. Nice grains on that table as well.
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I was sure the toe was looking small due to it's overall size, thanks for the confirmation. Nice grains on that table as well.
Ping on that desk is superb! WAIT...Hang on ...IKEA dudded me with a grain sheet!
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Ahh yes, that's the fake grain sheet coming with lower end models.
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Little video of the bat
https://youtu.be/ah2oljpKja0
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Little video of the bat
https://youtu.be/ah2oljpKja0
Sounds amazing!!
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Sounds amazing!!
Did more knocking tonight and it is amazing. Does not knock like a bat that has been overdried, eg no cracking, delaminating etc, too softly pressed etc. Wish i could say the same for other bats that pass through my place. I had a visitor pick up my B3 2 Stripe tonight and he thought it was 2.11-2.12. Thats close to the manufacturer's claim. I wont be using it, so i wont make any claims.
P.S the best pickup I have felt last season was from a pair of GN100 remakes. Both 2.10 and felt 2.7 and pinged like crazy after knocking. Never picked up a twin scoop.
Best ping in a bat post knock ...no favourite. My B3 3 stripe is definitely up there. All feature top willow. Do you need a 50 mm edge. Nope. Will you get plenty of attention batting with one? Yep. Will it end in tears - every time. Sometimes in your favour.
Would I love to own one. Hell Yes. Will I do myself any favours. Nope.
This is like Dirty Harry's 44 Magnum. A 9 mm will do the job, but who cares.
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Excellent video mate, nice to hear that sound pings mad, hope you score plenty :)
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Excellent video mate, nice to hear that sound pings mad, hope you score plenty :)
It's not my bat.
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This is like Dirty Harry's 44 Magnum. A 9 mm will do the job, but who cares.
Haha perfect analogy there mate
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that really makes an amazing sound, if only these came a little lighter
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That does sound very nice
Shapes a bit ott for me tho
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Oh no. They make thi sin a Long Blade.... :o
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Final video - mate's GN 50 Plus post knock vs my 6.5 Oz lighter B3 bat. No surprises. One hits the roof constantly and mine doesn't.
https://youtu.be/eJFUZHTwTls
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I know there's a weight difference but are you disappointed in the B3 or is the GN just extra good?
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I know there's a weight difference but are you disappointed in the B3 or is the GN just extra good?
Nah, I can't use a bat like the 50 Plus. I want to make runs not hit garage roofs. My B3 was made for me, bespoke. It's 2.83 convex and and pings from the toe to the splice. Additionally it hasn't seen a net yet and will take a few nets to loosen up. I can play 100 percent of my shots with it to all parts of the field. I'm old and slow and need a wand to work my magic, not a Magnum. Only sixes I hit are six packs after the match.
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Got to hold a 50+ and the XP80 today at GCCC Brisbane. Unbelievable bats and like everyone says (50+) doesn't feel like a 2.15 bat. I could actually use it but wouldn't attempt a pull shot. The XP80 felt beautiful. The ones I picked up were all over 2.11 but felt like 2.7 (Actually 2.7).
Two unreal bats.
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Hearing big rumours about numbers being made approx 250 available current orders are at about 1000 , looks like a lot of guys missing out or getting an xp80 instead , not seen them on the shelves yet & suspect you won't
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called into my local kingsgrove today , 2 50+ bats were out the back , both sold , they are remarkably similar to the warner kabooms , only bigger , & they ping like a (No Swearing Please) , awesome sound , you want to be the king of the kids then track 1 down quickly , also had the steve smith replica new balance , very tight grains , square toe , lovely ping , but at over 1000aus it should be , profile like a gn legend from about 4 years ago.