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Title: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: TGB1997 on March 31, 2016, 01:03:45 PM
Hey everyone,
Last season on a couple of occasions I foe that I needed to take the risk of running a single when the keeper was standing back. The first was in the first innings when we were setting the target and in the last over both batsmen were fairly new to the crease so singles were just as important as boundaries. On the second to last ball I was at the non strikers end and the striking batsmen missed the ball, I saw the keeper was a fair way back and I called him through for a single and made it safe.

Another situation was we were chasing and myself and the other batsmen were pretty set and he got out. There were only a few balls left and with one of the bowlers on strike without facing a ball (in months may I add due to him being injured). He played and missed I went for the single however this time I wasn't so lucky and was just out of my ground on this occasion.

I was curious how many of you would consider taking the risk of running a single to the keeper and have you got any interesting stories of seeing it happen.
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: smilley792 on March 31, 2016, 01:19:26 PM
Midweek game two of our lads took a 3 to the keeper.
It involved a wild over throw, but still. It was a 3!




As for other times, depends on situation, who's on strike and how I'm hitting it.
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: TGB1997 on March 31, 2016, 01:32:46 PM
Midweek game two of our lads took a 3 to the keeper.
It involved a wild over throw, but still. It was a 3!




As for other times, depends on situation, who's on strike and how I'm hitting it.
haha I could imagine that tbh especially in a midweek game when its not as serious as a Saturday game
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: paul090971 on March 31, 2016, 01:37:47 PM
Taken loads of singles to the keeper, usually last over if we need a big over to win but Ive already told the other batsmen I'm coming.

If you want to steal a single I used to bat with the greatest thief of all time & he knew when I batted with him he could do it.  When he hit the ball to a fielder he wouldnt return to his crease & casually walk out of his crease, maybe tapping down on the pitch. If the fielder ever threw the ball long & high to mid on or mid off we would be off for a single.  Used to make me laugh so much doing it.  Fielding side would go mad but its so funny I would do it loads of times.
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 31, 2016, 05:53:13 PM
Taken loads of singles to the keeper, usually last over if we need a big over to win but Ive already told the other batsmen I'm coming.

If you want to steal a single I used to bat with the greatest thief of all time & he knew when I batted with him he could do it.  When he hit the ball to a fielder he wouldnt return to his crease & casually walk out of his crease, maybe tapping down on the pitch. If the fielder ever threw the ball long & high to mid on or mid off we would be off for a single.  Used to make me laugh so much doing it.  Fielding side would go mad but its so funny I would do it loads of times.

I'd imagine that's against the laws, I'll ask our resident law expert though. Pretending to pat the ground implies dead ball, after all yiu don't have to throw it in to the keeper of the players aren't obviously looking for a run etc
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: FattusCattus on March 31, 2016, 07:59:42 PM
When you have the turning circle of the Exxon Valdez, a run to the keeper is not an option.
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: Batbuddy99 on March 31, 2016, 08:03:28 PM
I prefer running to the other set of stumps rather than to the keeper
Generally gets me more runs too!
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 31, 2016, 08:21:57 PM
What's running btw? Just me that walks easy singles then !?! :)
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: Gurujames on March 31, 2016, 08:23:13 PM

If you want to steal a single I used to bat with the greatest thief of all time & he knew when I batted with him he could do it.  When he hit the ball to a fielder he wouldnt return to his crease & casually walk out of his crease, maybe tapping down on the pitch. If the fielder ever threw the ball long & high to mid on or mid off we would be off for a single.  Used to make me laugh so much doing it.  Fielding side would go mad but its so funny I would do it loads of times.
Legal or not this strikes me as being very poor sportsmanship. Not surprised the fielding side were cheesed off.
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on March 31, 2016, 08:25:42 PM
What's running btw? Just me that walks easy singles then !?! :)

How far back do the keepers stand in your league if you can walk singles to them? ???
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on March 31, 2016, 08:29:04 PM
How far back do the keepers stand in your league if you can walk singles to them? ???

More a back stop
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: well past my peak on March 31, 2016, 08:42:55 PM
When chasing quick runs we always take a single as soon as the keeper has to go to ground, eg dive down leg side
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: Mr_Orange on April 01, 2016, 10:16:14 AM
I've no issue with this, although in every experience it has been an 'at the death' thing to do. Never seen it before the last couple of overs and generally when a team is chasing.
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: ppccopener on April 01, 2016, 10:42:29 AM
this is not common practice far as I know in my league, I suspect as has been pointed out it would be a guaranteed flashpoint for the fielding side or the bowlers would start just running out batsmen 'backing up' which has been covered to death on the forum so let's no go there  :)

having not really considered it myself this is my question: is the ball live as soon as it leaves the bowlers hand? so you can start legging it then?

the reason I ask is because im sure everyone knows current stumping rules prevent the keeper taking the ball until AFTER it's passed the stumps at the strikers end.

Def seems double standards to me, if batters are taking a run to the keeper.....
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 01, 2016, 02:47:10 PM
Oh mankad.. That's a good response to these types of players (especially the one saying they run the ball is basically dead!)

Just start mankading every ball  such things back to the batsmen to annoy them
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: ppccopener on April 01, 2016, 03:14:22 PM
Oh mankad.. That's a good response to these types of players (especially the one saying they run the ball is basically dead!)

Just start mankading every ball  such things back to the batsmen to annoy them

club cricket.......the thing is we will all be back end of April saying how much we have missed it and the whole thing starts again  :) :)
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: smilley792 on April 01, 2016, 03:20:12 PM
Did anyone see the maxwell and wade run out a few years back?


Maxwell was hitting it to long on and taking a single, but noticed long on merely floated it back to the the stumper.

So on the third time as soon as the fielder floated it he screamed for a one and took off.
Unfortunately for him wade wasn't paying attention and just stood there, and maxwell ended up ran out at the bowlers end.
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: Woodyspin on April 01, 2016, 03:22:47 PM
Did anyone see the maxwell and wade run out a few years back?


Maxwell was hitting it to long on and taking a single, but noticed long on merely floated it back to the the stumper.

So on the third time as soon as the fielder floated it he screamed for a one and took off.
Unfortunately for him wade wasn't paying attention and just stood there, and maxwell ended up ran out at the bowlers end.

Classic sunday cricket, if the guy on the boundary loops it or under arms it back i'm always going for another run!
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 01, 2016, 03:30:02 PM
Classic sunday cricket, if the guy on the boundary loops it or under arms it back i'm always going for another run!

Glad to see your playing in good spirits there.
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: Woodyspin on April 01, 2016, 03:32:25 PM
Glad to see your playing in good spirits there.

The worse thing in sunday cricket is the pace of it. Couple of cheeky singles just adds to the fun of it and speed it up a bit
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 01, 2016, 03:34:27 PM
club cricket.......the thing is we will all be back end of April saying how much we have missed it and the whole thing starts again  :) :)

Ah yes but we are all the keen beans who take it seriously like running on the keeper, running on Sunday's to people's arms and generally other tricks to steal us a few more runs

Tbh, Sunday's if someone wants to run I'll happily roll it in for them if they are that desperate, not going to wang it on a Sunday
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: smilley792 on April 01, 2016, 03:38:55 PM
The problem with cricket is it can't suit everyone.


Here we have one Side of the argument, blokes who want a quick spirited game who believe the slow and steady chaps are ruining it.


And argueing with him.

The other side, a chap the likes a slow and steady day out at the cricket, who believes the biffers and competitive run scorers are ruining it.


Don't think eithers gonna win really.
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 01, 2016, 03:50:08 PM
The problem with cricket is it can't suit everyone.


Here we have one Side of the argument, blokes who want a quick spirited game who believe the slow and steady chaps are ruining it.


And argueing with him.

The other side, a chap the likes a slow and steady day out at the cricket, who believes the biffers and competitive run scorers are ruining it.


Don't think eithers gonna win really.

Agreed, hence on Sunday's or in friendly stuff (and yes, Sunday league is basically friendlies ) you have to play in a way which suits the majority. So, no point is turning up, batting first amd smashing 300+ and then skittling a side for 150 because they are demoralised and know they don't stand a prayer.

Similer you don't take the mick and bowl joke bowlers with 5 slips to gift meaningless runs.

All about balance and making it fun for 22 blokes, otherwise you may not have a game as less and less want to play.

It is very hard and we are all selfish the majority of the time
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: Woodyspin on April 01, 2016, 03:55:44 PM
One game I got moaned at for bowling our 13 year old and having 3 slips, a gully, point and backward point, this was me trying to give them some runs to make more of a game. and allow all their players a fair bat, as they were 25 for 2 chasing 200. To be fair our youngun he did take 2 of their wickets at 3rd slip and quite a few dropped short of those behind the bat in his 3 over spell.. Think we only won by 15 runs in the end
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on April 01, 2016, 04:02:33 PM
One game I got moaned at for bowling our 13 year old and having 3 slips, a gully, point and backward point, this was me trying to give them some runs to make more of a game. and allow all their players a fair bat, as they were 25 for 2 chasing 200. To be fair our youngun he did take 2 of their wickets at 3rd slip and quite a few dropped short of those behind the bat in his 3 over spell.. Think we only won by 15 runs in the end

Credit for making a game of it, which is at least the right spirit and 200 isn't 'too many' to Chase either (unless you always have power that they know you can just end the game with whenever you want etc)
Title: Re: Running singles to the keeper, yes or no?
Post by: Woodyspin on April 01, 2016, 04:10:29 PM
Credit for making a game of it, which is at least the right spirit and 200 isn't 'too many' to Chase either (unless you always have power that they know you can just end the game with whenever you want etc)

We had a very hustling team it must be said, think out first team keeper bowled and i kept  :o