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Title: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: liscon12 on May 11, 2016, 08:08:01 AM
So Lottie has finally retired from International Cricket.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36263023 (http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36263023)

It was coming for quite a while now, especially when a lot of the commentators were questioning her fitness during the T20 World Cup.

Such a great servant for Women's Cricket in England and I hope she gets the recognition she deserves.
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: northernboy1987 on May 11, 2016, 08:12:34 AM
Played a huge part in moving the women's game forward in this country. Hope she enjoys a well deserved retirement.
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: roco on May 11, 2016, 08:12:55 AM
They were questioning her fitness but she was still outscoring the rest

big hole to fill as those runs will be hard to come by even if the person that comes in saves 10-20 in the field more its still a hill to climb

Fantastic player that could well have given mens county a go when younger as played against them till 16
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ppccopener on May 11, 2016, 08:14:01 AM
she has done a huge amount to bring women cricket to the forefront. Not sure how much the fitness issue of the team at the last WC is justified but from where the womens game was and where it is now she has been at the forefront

I suspect the ECB will have her in a very important position very soon....
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: liscon12 on May 11, 2016, 08:23:44 AM
The fitness issues stem from her knees being shot, they showed lots of footage of her only running singles when two's were very much on. I agree the amount of runs she has scored will leave a massive hole in the side but if someone has got the desire, drive and the willingness to step up and at least attempt to fill her shoes then we will do just fine. Will be interesting to see who they choose as captain, Sarah Taylor?

She can hold her head high knowing the state of the women's game has changed dramatically from when she first started to now and they she has been an important figure in changing it for the better.

She's already a CBE, can they give her anything else?
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on May 11, 2016, 08:43:05 AM
Questioning her fitness and saying 'oh you missed out on a couple of extra runs'.. People seem to forget she's streets ahead of any other English woman batsmen out there so even if she loses a few single runs its still more than otjers will get. England's women simply only have/had two batswomen and now one has gone, the rest are Rubbish and only there due to low standards currently in the game .

Sad end to her career but hopefully she'll smash thencrap about in women's county stuff and just show the gulf in ability there clearly is no matter how much waffle they want to talk about improving fitness, professionalism etc
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: tommo256 on May 11, 2016, 08:51:16 AM
Reading between the lines, it seems as though she felt she had to retire before being pushed out of the door....
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on May 11, 2016, 08:52:44 AM
Reading between the lines, it seems as though she felt she had to retire before being pushed out of the door....

Sadly that's what I believe has happened. Media and ECB pushing her out.
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ppccopener on May 11, 2016, 09:00:18 AM
I think with the new era of professionalism the expectation of success has risen similar to the mens team.

In fact the womens team has been very successful over the last few years.The recent WC guessing those in charge though we should of won it or got to the finals maybe?
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: roco on May 11, 2016, 09:11:15 AM
“Everyone who knows me - and how much I love playing for England - will appreciate what a difficult decision it has been for me to retire from international cricket," she said.
"It's a decision I've reached after much thought and detailed discussion with [England coach] Mark Robinson and [director of England women's cricket] Clare Connor about what is best for the team going forward.
"I believe now is the right time for a new captain to lead the team forward and for young players to be given more opportunities to make their mark on the international game.
"After honest and open discussions with Mark, it became clear that he wants to build a new team and I fully support that. I would have loved to have carried on and whilst I am disappointed that I won't be doing so, I fully understand and respect what Mark is looking to do. This is a new era and he wants other players to come to the fore to build a strong team."



That is the press release and sounds like the new coach said to her she was not going to be picked. Maybe he felt intimidated by her and felt he could not be in charge while she was there.

Real small minded stuff from ECB to let this happen
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on May 11, 2016, 09:17:03 AM
I think with the new era of professionalism the expectation of success has risen similar to the mens team.

In fact the womens team has been very successful over the last few years.The recent WC guessing those in charge though we should of won it or got to the finals maybe?

So getting rid of the best bat by a mile is a good idea? Clueless.. The rest (Taylor excluded) are simply miles and miles and miles below her standard. We can dress it up and be nice but half that team are simply not very good.
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ppccopener on May 11, 2016, 09:29:35 AM
So getting rid of the best bat by a mile is a good idea? Clueless.. The rest (Taylor excluded) are simply miles and miles and miles below her standard. We can dress it up and be nice but half that team are simply not very good.

Im reading between the lines because press reports once the team was publically criticised in the press for not being fit enough by the coach you start thinking.......well......put it this way it can show the players and coaches are not together, it can show a rift, it could be the truth, it could be an excuse from the coach......

put it this way...I was surprised to read that publically
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: cricketbadger on May 11, 2016, 10:15:52 AM
absolute Camel in the field she could barely move, but was very good with bat in hand

Thank god dont have to watch her running between the wickets anymore

Will probably be the end of Danni Wyatt's international career as well, convinced she must have been best mates with Edwards to still be getting picked in the team

Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: SirScottiod on May 11, 2016, 10:48:57 AM
absolute Camel in the field she could barely move

No need to mince your words!! :D
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: uknsaunders on May 11, 2016, 11:18:58 AM
Another KP saga brewing....  ;)
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: six and out on May 11, 2016, 12:04:26 PM
This is it pure and simple - interview with Mark Robinson after the T20 semi-final loss -

http://www.skysports.com/cricket/news/31996/10223256/mark-robinson-says-fitness-cost-englands-women-against-australia (http://www.skysports.com/cricket/news/31996/10223256/mark-robinson-says-fitness-cost-englands-women-against-australia)

The new coach believes that Charlotte doesn't fit into his plans going forwards and she was given the opportunity to 'retire' before not being selected.

I just hope it doesn't backfire on him, because it doesn't matter how fit you are to run 2's if you get bowled 1st cherry up!
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ppccopener on May 11, 2016, 01:09:07 PM
uk saunders and others smelling a rat here I think this is just breaking on the news.

I think it's fair to say there is more to come out and we are going to hear.
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: dcullen8 on May 11, 2016, 01:22:41 PM
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36268529?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport (http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36268529?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport)
Basically retire or be dropped. Shame really, feel the ecb owes her the oppertunity to retire on her own terms.
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: six and out on May 11, 2016, 01:29:55 PM
[url]http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36268529?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport[/url] ([url]http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36268529?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport[/url])
Basically retire or be dropped. Shame really, feel the ecb owes her the oppertunity to retire on her own terms.


I was literally just about to post this link!

nuff said really, she wanted to continue, Robinson didn't want her there.

it will definitely be interesting to see how they get on now she is gone.

Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ppccopener on May 11, 2016, 01:30:45 PM
[url]http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36268529?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport[/url] ([url]http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/36268529?ns_mchannel=social&ns_campaign=bbc_sport&ns_source=facebook&ns_linkname=sport[/url])
Basically retire or be dropped. Shame really, feel the ecb owes her the oppertunity to retire on her own terms.


I do despair sometimes how we treat our sportspeople. Yes I know it's the pro game, yes it's results driven, get all that.......

I just think the ECB sometimes is it's own worst enemy, they take two guns and shoot themselves in both feet. They want professionalism and a winning team whether it's men or women and then behave like a bunch of total ameteurs.
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: dcullen8 on May 11, 2016, 01:39:59 PM
I understand shes no spring chicken, but youd think you could carry her as she more than makes up for it with the bat, until she decides the time is right for her. Im not sure what their schedule is like this year?
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: bk on May 11, 2016, 01:46:09 PM
Looking forward to seeing how she goes skippering and mentoring our youngsters at the Southern Vipers this summer
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: Alvaro on May 11, 2016, 02:31:37 PM
The title of this thread should be "Charlotte Edwards is retired"!
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: liscon12 on May 11, 2016, 02:34:18 PM
The title of this thread should be "Charlotte Edwards is retired"!
Charlotte Edwards services are no longer required

or

Charlotte Edwards is now surplus to requirement 
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on May 11, 2016, 02:44:15 PM
I hope it backfires on this coach and the ECB and the team are shown up. Sure they might be fit but half the team are pathetic at batting!! Without Edwards and Taylor they literally have nothing !! Knowing a few of the girls playing for England jnr sides.. The standard is t getting better any time soon!!

ECB utter clowns yet again. Sad really, I enjoyed watching the women's game but won't be following it until this clown has been fired.
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: Aussie In England on May 11, 2016, 03:00:26 PM
It's sad that a magnificent cricketer has been forced out TBH. Charlotte Edwards was a great player and she was still playing at a high level. 10,000 odd runs and captaining her country 10 years. She deserved better. Shame also as she was a cutie pie as well 😉
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on May 11, 2016, 03:02:11 PM
It baffles me that the ECB can KeeP getting away with treating players like this...
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ppccopener on May 11, 2016, 03:06:00 PM
It baffles me that the ECB can KeeP getting away with treating players like this...

clever !!!

you can imagine a phone call between KP and CE going something like 'Iotte I know I know I know, sheet,sheet, I know I know he's a doos'
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: Northern monkey on May 11, 2016, 03:15:42 PM
I read these posts and seriously worry for the future of the game
The ecb show no common sense,no loyalty ,no faith and certainly no respect.
These people run? Our game, and are left unchecked to do as they please.

I played cricket years ago with Arran brindle, and the way she was treated by England cricket then   Was horrendous .
It looks like nothing's changed and the game will continue in it's decline, due to these morons being allowed to govern and dictate it's future
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on May 11, 2016, 03:53:26 PM
I read these posts and seriously worry for the future of the game
The ecb show no common sense,no loyalty ,no faith and certainly no respect.
These people run? Our game, and are left unchecked to do as they please.

I played cricket years ago with Arran brindle, and the way she was treated by England cricket then   Was horrendous .
It looks like nothing's changed and the game will continue in it's decline, due to these morons being allowed to govern and dictate it's future

Well, as we've seen over KP etc... Plenty see willing to just keep paying up to say they are off to see England and so to them, what they are doing is working

Profits up
More money coming in


To them, it's all good. Only way to stop them is to stop goigm to England games and stop paying sky but you know that won't happen so it's a case of accept it or actually boycott them


Anyone and I mean anyone who thinks they have the interests of th game or even long term thinking are deluded
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: Northern monkey on May 11, 2016, 04:00:13 PM
It's gonna end up a marginal and elitist game if left to these idiots
Club cricket will end up being travelling friendly teams
County cricket will be made up of rich kids willing to pay their own way
And god knows what the national teams gonna be like
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: ProCricketer1982 on May 11, 2016, 04:19:35 PM
It's gonna end up a marginal and elitist game if left to these idiots
Club cricket will end up being travelling friendly teams
County cricket will be made up of rich kids willing to pay their own way
And god knows what the national teams gonna be like

It's already a marginal elitist game

Club cricket will only be leagues, there will be no friendly stuff.
County cricket will reduce and reduce
National teams.. Will survive no doubt but no idea what the standard will be like.

Again, it's obvious to see unless you're biased to ECB propaganda talking about how th game has grown. It hasn't,  and jnr stuff is purely a cash cow so has no relevance to the health of the game. We all know in general that the amount of u18's who stay in he game is tiny (sure, some clubs will do better than others but if people stopped only caring about their patch they'd take a wider view)..

Meh, screw it. Nothing we can do about it. Working your backside off is just helping them achieve their goals not save the game. Not sure it is savable now given all people want is increasing profits
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: bk on May 11, 2016, 04:35:11 PM
It's gonna end up a marginal and elitist game if left to these idiots
Club cricket will end up being travelling friendly teams
County cricket will be made up of rich kids willing to pay their own way
And god knows what the national teams gonna be like


Inclined to agree. Outside private schools cricket is effectively dead already. Chance to Shine teaches kids that there is a game called cricket but that's it. It's clubs that are keeping the game alive and it's people like Charlotte Edwards who act as the inspiration for tomorrow's players.
Title: Re: Charlotte Edwards Retires
Post by: anony on May 12, 2016, 12:03:19 PM

Inclined to agree. Outside private schools cricket is effectively dead already. Chance to Shine teaches kids that there is a game called cricket but that's it. It's clubs that are keeping the game alive and it's people like Charlotte Edwards who act as the inspiration for tomorrow's players.

She can only be an inspiration if people know who she is. Pick any teenage girl and I'd be incredibly surprised if any of them can name a female cricketer at all. Hell, id be surprised if any men playing village cricket could name one.