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Title: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Whispering Death on July 28, 2016, 05:57:17 PM
Just wondering what the gn shoulder stamps mean- I have a bat with j on one side and t on the other. Any ideas?
Mike
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Biggie Smalls on July 28, 2016, 06:42:52 PM
I have 7 aussie g.n s and all have w on them . I know some batmakers use shoulder stamps to put either the brand or batmakers initials
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Buzz on July 29, 2016, 05:54:53 AM
One letter is the year the model was made and one letter is who it was made by.
The maker's letter used to be stamped into the toe.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: KW9221 on January 08, 2017, 05:32:50 AM
Sorry to revive this thread. I am about to buy a GN bat that has "2" as stamp on the shoulder. I was told it was made for a pro. Is it true? I have never seen numbers on the shoulders so I just want to make sure.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Nmcgee on January 08, 2017, 06:35:36 AM
How about Salix? How would I know a bat made by Andrew? I assume he has helpers doing some of his bats?
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: SOULMAN1012 on January 08, 2017, 07:56:02 AM
How about Salix? How would I know a bat made by Andrew? I assume he has helpers doing some of his bats?
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There is no stamp on a salix that determines who made the bat, it would only be Andrew, Ian (who is as good as AK but gets no credit he started Salix with Andrew and Hugh) or made by Ben who before he left was making very very good bats as well but Andtew has input in 80% of bats so chances are good.
On very few Andrew will initial a bat with AJK on pro graded clefts but these are quite rare as this is done at grading stage
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 08, 2017, 08:10:13 AM
I have 7 aussie g.n s and all have w on them . I know some batmakers use shoulder stamps to put either the brand or batmakers initials

Anyone know what this "W" means? Wouldn't be an M maybe??
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Seniorplayer on January 08, 2017, 10:34:53 AM
Stamps on each shoulder indiacate the batmakers mark  and batch number one stamp is the batmakers identification not always his name.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 08, 2017, 10:54:52 AM
Stamps on each shoulder indiacate the batmakers mark  and batch number one stamp is the batmakers identification not always his name.


Yep, but asking more specifically mate. Any ideas?

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Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Seniorplayer on January 08, 2017, 11:13:04 AM
I know the UK GN Batmakers stamps but not that one.
You could contact the the bigginge on here he should be able to identify the batmaker .
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 08, 2017, 11:17:38 AM
I might just give a call to GN here in melb tomorrow. And i reckon its more likely to be an M too. I'll find out and report back.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Number4 on January 08, 2017, 11:19:42 AM
Previous thebigginge stated that shoulder stamps are used so that bats can be dated from point of manufacture... This was UK GN's I believe
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: edge on January 08, 2017, 12:56:30 PM
Anyone know what maker 'S' refers to? Would be interested to find out where my GN was made as it's not quite the normal fare.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 08, 2017, 01:52:17 PM
Anyone know what maker 'S' refers to? Would be interested to find out where my GN was made as it's not quite the normal fare.


Ill ask about the S too mate. Im curious in this instance as mine was an 09 Legend, advertised as all being made by Stuart. But as this was a custom and not one "off the shelf" it may have a different story. Certainly had a different profile to the other store bought Legend. Wish i could remember the stamp on that one....

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Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Alvaro on January 08, 2017, 10:56:20 PM
Could just be 'Melbourne'?
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 08, 2017, 11:22:26 PM
Just got off the phone with a bloke at GN and he says both the M and S stamps indicate when it was made rather than who it was made by. He did say he could go look up what year/s those codes corresponded to but i told him not to worry cos i know mine was 08/09.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: InternalTraining on January 08, 2017, 11:31:09 PM
Anyone know what maker 'S' refers to? Would be interested to find out where my GN was made as it's not quite the normal fare.

Stuart Kranzbuhler.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 08, 2017, 11:37:47 PM
Stuart Kranzbuhler.

That would be too simple mate.

Read the post above yours!  ;)
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: InternalTraining on January 09, 2017, 12:21:05 AM
That would be too simple mate.

Read the post above yours!  ;)


No need to over complicate things. Read other threads first! ;)

My GN Bat with S stamp was picked up from Kranzbuhler - he made it. Another forumite from AUS confirmed it as well.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 09, 2017, 12:24:02 AM
Yeah im sure he did. Just dont get hung up on the stamp, because as was explained to me today by GN, thats not what the S means.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: InternalTraining on January 09, 2017, 12:30:50 AM
That phone message makes no sense. Bat made in 2015/2016 also has an "S" stamp? GN has ran out of letters to indicate year of manufacture or knowledgeable staff answering their phones?
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 09, 2017, 01:00:04 AM
I dont know which stamps might correlate with which year/s or exacty how their system might work, short of the very obvious, as like i said i didnt bother asking. The fact the place is more like a "back door" to the factory than your typical stand alone retail store im more inclined to take what the guy said as being correct. He was quite emphatic when i asked. And would make sense in my case, if my Legend was made by Stuart but has the M stamp. Anyway, ill dig a little deeper next time im there.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: InternalTraining on January 09, 2017, 01:07:43 AM
Please do.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: edge on January 09, 2017, 01:15:15 AM
Interesting, I thought it was the other shoulder that was the year - my two Nemesis' are I think from consecutive years and have I and J. Would be surprised if a Kranzbuhler bat has made a convoluted journey to me,  but then it is an absolute gun - who knows. Thanks for asking manno, looks like we may still be confused though ha.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Shinpathy on January 09, 2017, 01:54:40 AM
Have T marked on the shoulders here
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 09, 2017, 02:03:34 AM
Have T marked on the shoulders here

On which bats?
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 09, 2017, 02:36:18 AM
Edge - I can understand the confusion when theres no solid explanation published by the manufacturer. And if i had a GN made in melb that came with S stamped into it id probably like to assume that must mean Stuart made it too. Dunno about I and J but again, if consecutive years as you say likely confirms its a code for when a bat was made rather than who made it. Itd be a shame if finding out who made your bat (of the local handmade stuff) wasn't as simple as checking for a particular manufactures stamp but I can't say im overly concerned whether mine was made by Stuart or the work-experience kid. The bat is what it is....
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on January 09, 2017, 04:34:09 AM
My Kaboom has a T on the top of the shoulder and a large A on the back of the bat
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Aussiecollector on January 09, 2017, 06:37:21 AM
T is this season A is the willow grade , have a look if your bats have both shoulders stamped ie year & maker , now those with two As on the back stamped top & bottom of the blade plus a T stamped on the left & an S on the right  of the shoulders well you have hit the jackpot  & just to confuse the topic even more , there are 2 different s stamps
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 09, 2017, 06:48:20 AM
And i bet which stamps are used to indicate what have changed over the years and between different bats. GN should release a historical chart! :)

Or......

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Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Aussiecollector on January 09, 2017, 07:03:23 AM
As is their privilege , they keep a lot of info secret , there are other identifying features on your bat that prove it is what it is , trying to stop cheap copies being sold off as genuine gray nicolls , internet is full of fake bats & stickers , it also identifies bats for warranty claims & individual special blades   stu has an amazing memory
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on January 09, 2017, 01:09:54 PM
@Aussiecollector , who does the pressing of the bats? Or is that linked in with the stamps or does 'Stu' press them all?
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: edge on January 09, 2017, 01:16:48 PM
Edge - I can understand the confusion when theres no solid explanation published by the manufacturer. And if i had a GN made in melb that came with S stamped into it id probably like to assume that must mean Stuart made it too. Dunno about I and J but again, if consecutive years as you say likely confirms its a code for when a bat was made rather than who made it. Itd be a shame if finding out who made your bat (of the local handmade stuff) wasn't as simple as checking for a particular manufactures stamp but I can't say im overly concerned whether mine was made by Stuart or the work-experience kid. The bat is what it is....
It'd be nice if it was easy wouldn't it. Just to confuse things more,  I've checked again and my two are stamped I/S and J/T on the shoulders, so either could be date or maker.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: amritpremi on January 09, 2017, 02:49:06 PM
50+ I bought recently has a T stamp on one shoulder & nothing on the other, plus an A stamp near the toe. Looks like mine was made by the ghost at GN this year  :(
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on January 09, 2017, 02:54:44 PM
Mine was probably made by Muzza on a work for the dole program.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Aussiecollector on January 09, 2017, 08:27:57 PM
@d7bow  all the guys can press the bats just depends on the day  & what they are making  there is no set output ie today we are making 20 warners for example   stu is the master though & has that touch you just can't teach  out of the approx 200 big bats made so far  stu has done about 20 to 30  no need to stamp twice on the big bats as no one else is making them like the boys can     it is a unique place the mill
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Blaise on January 09, 2017, 11:26:47 PM
Interestingly my GN Players has 0 on each of the shoulders. It's about six years old and a stunning bit of willow - both in looks and pickup. I've always wondered what the stamping meant.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on January 10, 2017, 09:27:46 PM
I'm late to the party on this one, never paid much attention of these up to now...

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Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: KW9221 on January 13, 2017, 06:03:25 AM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/mundapaki786/custombats/7BEE5F5A-C549-43DA-8AD4-95AE912AAC57.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mundapaki786/media/custombats/7BEE5F5A-C549-43DA-8AD4-95AE912AAC57.jpg.html)

This is what I have on GN shoulder. Does anyone know what it means?
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Seniorplayer on January 13, 2017, 09:51:16 AM
Looks like a dowel to me.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: thebigginge on January 13, 2017, 02:44:20 PM
the 2 means it was sold as 2nd hand

the A one of a certain makers different makers marks (because he keeps losing them....) ;)
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: KW9221 on January 18, 2017, 05:07:42 PM
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v218/mundapaki786/custombats/90B58702-5BA6-407F-8B8A-B1CC38DE3567.jpg) (http://smg.photobucket.com/user/mundapaki786/media/custombats/90B58702-5BA6-407F-8B8A-B1CC38DE3567.jpg.html)
What about these stamps? What do they mean?
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: FattusCattus on January 18, 2017, 05:14:26 PM
'Left' and 'Right' so you know you are facing the right way.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: KW9221 on January 18, 2017, 05:25:11 PM
What does "I" stand for? I just bought it off a friend and was wondering.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on November 19, 2017, 12:39:32 AM
Dredging this one up. Just wondering what the deal is with the "A" stamped on the back down near the toe? Looking at pictures on here im pretty sure Ive seen two GN 50+, one with the A stamp, the other without. If it indicates the grade of willow,  should both bats be sold at the same price? I assume they are. Can anyone clarify? Thnx
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: skip1973 on November 19, 2017, 01:42:12 AM
It's the MCC grading stamp confirming it conforms to all levels of cricket.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on November 19, 2017, 02:13:22 AM
So even the most recent 50mm gn Signatures were made prior to the new bat regulations?
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: KW9221 on November 19, 2017, 03:31:11 AM
Dredging this one up. Just wondering what the deal is with the "A" stamped on the back down near the toe? Looking at pictures on here im pretty sure Ive seen two GN 50+, one with the A stamp, the other without. If it indicates the grade of willow,  should both bats be sold at the same price? I assume they are. Can anyone clarify? Thnx
It usually means Made in Australia.
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: manno on November 19, 2017, 06:01:35 AM
It's the MCC grading stamp confirming it conforms to all levels of cricket.

Actually, i think this was what i remembered. However, Aussiecollector did say that the A indicates grade of willow. Still as clear as mud!  :D
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: Kulli on October 09, 2018, 05:25:53 PM
Bat on ebay with the stamps R and either O or C, anyone know what this tells us about the bat?
Title: Re: Shoulder stamps
Post by: markdarlo on October 26, 2018, 09:42:46 AM
Bat on ebay with the stamps R and either O or C, anyone know what this tells us about the bat?

the R is likely to be year of manufacture (5 years old approx- i think) not sure about the O or C thou!