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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: wasted_talent on November 10, 2016, 04:18:45 PM
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I believe Pakistan are due to kick off their NZ tour tomorrow.
Who do people think will win the test series?
Pakistan have a good record in tests in NZ. But NZ also now a very good test outfit and surely likely to pose questions.
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should be good. NZ after being stuffed in India will want to put right some results.
Pak have done it the hard way(getting to no 1) by getting out of their home conditions.
Pak did well over here, admittedly Lords and the Oval didn't move around much, but it should be seaming tracks in NZ.
This is the test PAK needs.....
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Pak seemed to struggle v Windies bowling short pitched stuff at them in the last test. So definitely this will be an intriguing battle.
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Some inexperienced faces in the NZ squad too. Guptill, Bracewell, Patel, Ronchi and Sodhi all left out and Jeet Raval, Colin de Grandhomme and Todd Astle called up.
Will be a really good contest. I think they'll be fairly evenly matched in NZ conditions and even more so if Pakistan learned lessons from the England tour.
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About time guptill was dropped...Ross Taylor is lucky to be playing still. Much rather we go with a youngster than Taylor's experience. He's woefully out of form
Believe jeet raval was suppose to be the overseas pro this season for harefield cc but got the nz call up
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Backing the Kiwis to win comfortably. Pakistan fast bowlers aren't as potent as New Zealand's(Amir doesn't seem to have that old magic at present) and Yasir Shah isn't a big spinner of the ball so shouldn't be too much threat. Neil Wagner's short ball barrage should be too much for Pakistan
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Mitchell Santner and Corey Anderson are big losses
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About time guptill was dropped...
I think he is a pretty decent bat - hope he will get some form as I do enjoy watching him bat when he is batting well!
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I think Pakistan will struggle a bit. NZ quick bowling is much better- they have the advantage. Unless pitches started drastically on day 3 I cant see Pakistan winning.
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Some inexperienced faces in the NZ squad too. Guptill, Bracewell, Patel, Ronchi and Sodhi all left out and Jeet Raval, Colin de Grandhomme and Todd Astle called up.
Will be a really good contest. I think they'll be fairly evenly matched in NZ conditions and even more so if Pakistan learned lessons from the England tour.
played against Astle when he was overseas player in local Essex league.
always looked a decent prospect
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I am curious to see how Mohammad Amir fares. He has flashes of brilliance but haven't had the same venom for which he was termed as a prodigy.
He has had enough time so should be fine now. PCB has invested a lot in him so they can rightfully expect results.
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^ He has had a lot of dropped catches since he started bowling in the international arena.
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^ He has had a lot of dropped catches since he started bowling in the international arena.
I wonder how come they were just dropped on his bowling!! Not sure if it was deliberate!
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A real test of Pakistani top 3 bats. They will have to deal with Southee, Henry and Boult. I am curious to see how Sohail Khan bowls given his natural swing action and poor fitness. Aamir has the chance to take top order wickets. Also looking forward to Warne's theory of when it seams it spins for Yasir Shah.
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Should be a good test series. Just a huge shame Pakistan haven't had any warm up game prior to the first test. The one and only game scheduled, was rained off.
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The ball will swing more in New Zealand. I think Amir will have a much better series than England even if the fielders drop catches.
I am curious to see how Mohammad Amir fares. He has flashes of brilliance but haven't had the same venom for which he was termed as a prodigy.
He has had enough time so should be fine now. PCB has invested a lot in him so they can rightfully expect results.
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1st day rained off
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NZ will probably only need 4 days. Of recent, matches haven't gone the full 5 days anyway
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NZ will probably only need 4 days. Of recent, matches haven't gone the full 5 days anyway
Interesting... not even giving Pakistan a glimmer of hope?
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Interesting... not even giving Pakistan a glimmer of hope?
None whatsoever, Pakistan have not played in conditions with a swinging ball in a very long time (And no I don't count their last tour of England as typical English conditions given most of the pitches were flat)
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None whatsoever, Pakistan have not played in conditions with a swinging ball in a very long time (And no I don't count their last tour of England as typical English conditions given most of the pitches were flat)
Intriguing. Genuinely feel they will compete. Lets see :)
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Wow Kane won a toss! About flipping time.
Can't believe Henry isn't playing, the extra pace would definitely trouble them
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And it's on the telly!! Woohoo
F you cricket Australia and bt sports!!! NZ all the way.
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Who's standing at second slip, never seen him before.
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Very very impressed with the openers so far. If they can see off the new ball the middle order should be able to do reasonably well. Scoring 300+ would be great for batting confidence!
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Fair to say we've bowled pretty poor in the first hour given the conditions. Southee all over the shop
Pakistan have also done well given they've had no match practice.
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My pakistan mate said this kid baber is a future star
Decent start from pak.
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Maybe I jinxed southee, complete contrast this spell. 2 down, hopefully a couple more before lunch
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Very very impressed with the openers so far. If they can see off the new ball the middle order should be able to do reasonably well. Scoring 300+ would be great for batting confidence!
You were saying...........haha it's okay Misbah and Younis are in.
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4 down! Pretty poor shot from younis. Not a bad debut for the medium pacer, couldn't ask for a better pitch mind you.
One more before lunch :D
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Poor Misbah, 42 years young and still being typecast in this boy on the burning deck role.
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Best figures on debut by a kiwi. Well done Grandhomme.
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Nz 3 down already. Another failure for Taylor.
Even with one day washed out this test is moving at a quick pace. Great debut for granthomme - who needs pace?
Don't think the nz pacers bowled particularly well at times though. A few other sides like England and South Africa would have knocked Pakistan over for under 100 in these conditons
Pitch should get easier to bat on in the 4th innings and probably get quicker
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3 front foot no balls from amir with 2 in one over. Gheez makes you wonder
Raval showing he should have been selected a couple of tours ago instead of guptil
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De Grandhomme having a good game at this stage. 6 for 41 and currently on 24 with the bat
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Well that worked well to cause a collapse
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Pitch looks like it's quickened up on day 3. Pakistan's morning, they've done really well getting back into this. Lead is 67 which is pretty big on this pitch.
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No boult for NZ for the second match - Should give Pakistan a small chance if they win the toss.
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New Zealand 77/2 when the heavens opened. Pakistan inserted the hosts on a green top but proceeded to bowl far too and far too wide. Latham and Williamson didn't last long. But Raval and Taylor feasted merrily on the flith being sent down. Pakistan axed Yasir.
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Cracking spine and middle psoitonnon this bat!
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NZ also well on top.
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Cracking spine and middle psoitonnon this bat!
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NZ also well on top.
Would explain why that top edge just went into the crowd...twice!!
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Would explain why that top edge just went into the crowd...twice!!
I don't think the edges are even that bog(more a thin edge Warner profile). Yet they still went miles!!
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Looks like Pakistan's very good record in NZ is coming to an end.
Its a shame they didn't give themselves a better chance. One warm up game, which was washed out, seems like very little preparation for the conditions they were about to face.
I do think Pakistan are going to struggle massively in Oz too. As this trip wouldn't have done much for their confidence. and I feel the aussies are going to be like a wounded tiger after their SA humbling.
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Didn't taylor need that 100. Personally would have dropped him but hearing his eyesight has gone and needs surgery.
Pakistan don't know what pace to bat at and the bowlers haven't done great. Amir has been ok but given the conditions should have done better.
Don't think pakistan will be able to block out for a day, but never know. Bit of rain might help them
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Pak has been very poor with the bat. Some very ordinary shots leading to their demise.
First test, thought they were genuinely unlucky with the weather and toss
This test, no such excuse.
would be a mental boost if they salvage a draw tomorrow
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How much better does Taylor look for his change of stance?, looks back in control and a threat at the crease again.
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Wow pakistan threw this one away! 1 down going into tea, to lose 9 wickets in the final session on a wicket that wasn't doing much by the end of it is pretty unbelievable. Dodgy pakistan??
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A totally shocking effort to lose 9 wickets.
Pakistan are in for a very tough time in Oz. Aussies will be looking to take out some anger after their recent humbling in SL and now against SA.
Also, I think time could be ticking on Younis Khan's career. His last 3 series, haven't been the best.
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Am I the only one that suspects foul play whenever anything like this happens?
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Probably would have been good odds on losing 9 wickets in a session, with only the openers making more than 20...
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A totally shocking effort to lose 9 wickets.
Pakistan are in for a very tough time in Oz. Aussies will be looking to take out some anger after their recent humbling in SL and now against SA.
Also, I think time could be ticking on Younis Khan's career. His last 3 series, haven't been the best.
Probably waiting to get back to the UAE so he can boost his stats on the concrete pitches...
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Probably waiting to get back to the UAE so he can boost his stats on the concrete pitches...
I bet Jimmy Anderson would be all over him like a rash, even on those concrete pitches! ;)
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It would appear Sky are only bothered about showing a replay of day only once, can't find the highlights anywhere on Sky Sports either today or tomorrow. I would imagine it has something to do with rights and money
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I bet Jimmy Anderson would be all over him like a rash, even on those concrete pitches! ;)
TBH Khan looked like a clown in the summer against us, only scored runs on a flat pitch at the Oval. Starc will probably rip him a new one
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It would appear Sky are only bothered about showing a replay of day only once, can't find the highlights anywhere on Sky Sports either today or tomorrow. I would imagine it has something to do with rights and money
Sky's coverage of cricket is terrible now a days! Only bothered about England men's team.