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Title: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: well past my peak on December 02, 2016, 11:03:45 AM
It's been a while since I have purchase a bat from an Aussie store. I think the links below explains clearly why.

http://www.itsjustcricket.co.uk/cricket-bats-c17/senior-cricket-bats-c18/kookaburra-ghost-pro-cricket-bat-p1654 (http://www.itsjustcricket.co.uk/cricket-bats-c17/senior-cricket-bats-c18/kookaburra-ghost-pro-cricket-bat-p1654) or

http://www.cricketcentre.com.au/product/9781-kook-ghost-pro-players-1-le-ew-cricket-bat-sh (http://www.cricketcentre.com.au/product/9781-kook-ghost-pro-players-1-le-ew-cricket-bat-sh)
So why? Aussie stores not getting as good price than Uk stores, or are they just greedy?
over $300 difference ???

Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: skip1973 on December 02, 2016, 12:17:31 PM
Glad you're not my accountant.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: well past my peak on December 02, 2016, 01:35:49 PM
Glad you're not my accountant.

yeah sorry skip my bad, $300 I was way off  ;)
 AUS Dollars
$638.83 in UK
or $985 in AUS   http://www.kingsgrovesports.com.au/prd_116_Kookaburra-Ghost-Pro-Players-1-LE-Cricket-Bat.aspx (http://www.kingsgrovesports.com.au/prd_116_Kookaburra-Ghost-Pro-Players-1-LE-Cricket-Bat.aspx)  oh so a difference of $346.17. Wouldn't it be great to be an accountant of a store like kingsgroves to have a slice of that action

Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: Neon Cricket on December 02, 2016, 02:05:03 PM
449.99 GBP is 765.70 AUD

Third time lucky lol
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: Vitas Cricket on December 02, 2016, 02:13:04 PM
They are also not the same bat.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: procricket on December 02, 2016, 03:21:45 PM
I can tell you why the industry is competitive in another view.

The pie is so small and the fact people both makers and retailers are working dam hard to get there slice.



Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: FattusCattus on December 02, 2016, 07:26:39 PM
I like pies.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: FattusCattus on December 02, 2016, 07:27:12 PM
But I don't like small ones.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 02, 2016, 09:39:23 PM
I like pies.

But I don't like small ones.

Is that why we get on so well, I'm a Pye and by no means small!  :D
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: Wickets-then-runs on December 02, 2016, 09:46:15 PM
Wasnt the UK Ghost a grade 2 bat whereas the Aus version was a top of the range one?
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: Calzehbhoy on December 02, 2016, 09:48:55 PM
Think the size of the country has something to do with it. So much choice in a relatively small area.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: smilley792 on December 02, 2016, 10:10:17 PM
Wasnt the UK Ghost a grade 2 bat whereas the Aus version was a top of the range one?

2016 ghost was. The one linked is a 2017 ghost, of which 2 grades are available I believe.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: well past my peak on December 02, 2016, 10:23:36 PM
449.99 GBP is 765.70 AUD
correct
so perhaps it's IJC's currency converter on thier page a bit off? When  switch the Aus dollars on it's 640, it appears to be live as it went up by $2 overnight.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: Alvaro on December 02, 2016, 10:24:55 PM
2016 ghost was. The one linked is a 2017 ghost, of which 2 grades are available I believe.

Owzat have three ghost grades available.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 02, 2016, 10:29:57 PM
correct
so perhaps it's IJC's currency converter on thier page a bit off? When  switch the Aus dollars on it's 640, it appears to be live as it went up by $2 overnight.

Get buying from IJC then! 
That's something I never thought I'd say...
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: well past my peak on December 02, 2016, 10:38:59 PM
They are also not the same bat.
never are, that's a marketing game that many play. Not sure in the UK but in Aus often store will have exclusive lines, oh and guarantee if you find the exact same bat for cheaper we will beat it.

Players' Quality Specially Selected Grade 1+ English Willow.  English
Players Grade 1 English Willow  Aussie

So if you where to also fall for another marketing trick the English version must be so much better because it's specially selected.
Here let me cut through the marketing bull for you
Both are top of the range, grade 1 Indian made bats.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: smilley792 on December 02, 2016, 10:53:19 PM
Owzat have three ghost grades available.

Then I believed wrong. Lol.

More than one anyway.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 02, 2016, 10:56:27 PM
Then I believed wrong. Lol.

More than one anyway.

Two is more than one and less than three, so you were halfway there!  ;)
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: GoodLeave on December 02, 2016, 10:58:54 PM
never are, that's a marketing game that many play. Not sure in the UK but in Aus often store will have exclusive lines, oh and guarantee if you find the exact same bat for cheaper we will beat it.

Players' Quality Specially Selected Grade 1+ English Willow.  English
Players Grade 1 English Willow  Aussie

So if you where to also fall for another marketing trick the English version must be so much better because it's specially selected.
Here let me cut through the marketing bull for you
Both are top of the range, grade 1 Indian made bats.

Quite.

We've got a similar set up regarding exclusives. Though the only retailer I know that does it is PDC, because they are more of a "Pile em high, sell em cheap" Warehouse. They had a Kook "Torre" last year, can't imagine it sold well, looked god awful and is now heavily discounted.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: GoodLeave on December 02, 2016, 11:00:36 PM
Two is more than one and less than three, so you were halfway there!  ;)

Impressive Mathematics skills for 11pm on a Friday!  ;)
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 02, 2016, 11:03:21 PM
Quite.

We've got a similar set up regarding exclusives. Though the only retailer I know that does it is PDC, because they are more of a "Pile em high, sell em cheap" Warehouse. They had a Kook "Torre" last year, can't imagine it sold well, looked god awful and is now heavily discounted.

Sports Direct have some exclusives too.

@petehosk had a lovely Sports Direct exclusive GM Apex, it has a fake grain sheet and was totally override in pain on the edges and back, and despite being a 1 star said Pro on the sticker. I can therefore conclude Sports Direct sell GM "Pro bats" for £35  ;)
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: GoodLeave on December 02, 2016, 11:10:23 PM
Sports Direct have some exclusives too.

@petehosk had a lovely Sports Direct exclusive GM Apex, it has a fake grain sheet and was totally override in pain on the edges and back, and despite being a 1 star said Pro on the sticker. I can therefore conclude Sports Direct sell GM "Pro bats" for £35  ;)

Ah yes. Forgot about SD.

Must admit, it's not somewhere I think to look when on the hunt for bargain bats. But especially after they did that Flash Sale a few months back, sounds like some people got great value.

On the subject of competition. Would be interested to hear the opinion of the sponsors/smaller retailers on the big boys.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: skip1973 on December 03, 2016, 09:47:07 AM
correct
so perhaps it's IJC's currency converter on thier page a bit off? When  switch the Aus dollars on it's 640, it appears to be live as it went up by $2 overnight.
Still glad you're not my accountant. Exchange rates play a big part, as Vitas said not the same bat, compare average wages in both countries as well. There are many things that go into what ends up the retail price of things but you are clearly clueless if you think retailers make huge amounts on top end bats.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?i
Post by: tom line on December 03, 2016, 09:55:19 AM
Sports Direct have some exclusives too.

@petehosk had a lovely Sports Direct exclusive GM Apex, it has a fake grain sheet and was totally override in pain on the edges and back, and despite being a 1 star said Pro on the sticker. I can therefore conclude Sports Direct sell GM "Pro bats" for £35  ;)
Even had some free paint under the fake grain sheet, it's gotta be pro willow though, it says so on the stickers
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: well past my peak on December 06, 2016, 09:33:37 AM

 Still glad you're not my accountant. Exchange rates play a big part, as Vitas said not the same bat, compare average wages in both countries as well. There are many things that go into what ends up the retail price of things but you are clearly clueless if you think retailers make huge amounts on top end bats.

 Yeah Aussie retailers certainly not making huge amounts on top end bats  ;) well from me anyhow.
Saved $307.66 aus buying from the UK and to top it off Uk version oval handle. Pictures to follow soon  :)
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: skip1973 on December 06, 2016, 10:29:07 AM
I can only explain, I can't make you intelligent enough to understand. Enjoy the bat that you saved $300 on that's not available in Australia.
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: Neon Cricket on December 06, 2016, 10:49:50 AM
Something tells me the IJC 'post-brexit 20% off' sales patter may have had a part to play in this...
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: skip1973 on December 06, 2016, 11:07:33 AM
I wonder what sort of mark up is put on brand new stock that can be discounted by 20% in the pre season?
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 06, 2016, 11:18:19 AM
I wonder what sort of mark up is put on brand new stock that can be discounted by 20% in the pre season?

According to most people I have spoken to, roughly three fifths of sod all...
If that's the case, I wonder why you'd do it? ???
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: Neon Cricket on December 06, 2016, 11:52:28 AM
Pretty much all the main retailers run at around 15/20% off RRP - not quite sure what you're getting at?
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: well past my peak on December 06, 2016, 12:57:38 PM
do it the aussie way, markup the recommended retail, then give a very generous discount of the store's recommended retail,
http://www.cricketcentre.com.au/product/9316-gn-xp80-2000-nat-ew-cricket-bat-short-handle-powercurve- (http://www.cricketcentre.com.au/product/9316-gn-xp80-2000-nat-ew-cricket-bat-short-handle-powercurve-)
https://gray-nicolls.com.au/collections/senior-bats (https://gray-nicolls.com.au/collections/senior-bats)
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: Neon Cricket on December 06, 2016, 01:06:45 PM
You've lost me now if I'm honest, how any of this has anything to do with "Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?" is beyond me

Btw, the GCCC discount still equates to about 10% off RRP - no different to the likes of PDC/Barrington over here...
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: WalkingWicket37 on December 06, 2016, 01:13:18 PM
do it the aussie way, markup the recommended retail, then give a very generous discount of the store's recommended retail,

Like Sports Direct, you mean?
Title: Re: Why is the UK cricket industry so competitive?
Post by: skip1973 on December 06, 2016, 10:18:42 PM
do it the aussie way, markup the recommended retail, then give a very generous discount of the store's recommended retail,
[url]http://www.cricketcentre.com.au/product/9316-gn-xp80-2000-nat-ew-cricket-bat-short-handle-powercurve-[/url] ([url]http://www.cricketcentre.com.au/product/9316-gn-xp80-2000-nat-ew-cricket-bat-short-handle-powercurve-[/url])
[url]https://gray-nicolls.com.au/collections/senior-bats[/url] ([url]https://gray-nicolls.com.au/collections/senior-bats[/url])
Stores don't set the RRP and nobody sells at rrp, cricket centre is using it as a bit of a marketing ploy to add "members" to it's data base.