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General Cricket => Players => Topic started by: ppccopener on August 03, 2017, 01:22:00 PM
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Seems odd with sanga retiring but he must think chances are still reduced staying at Surrey
Don't seem like a very good move to me on the face of it
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By the looks of it he has assurances from Warwickshire that he will bat in the top 3 in all formats for them which is probably quite attractive for him wanting to further his career.
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Will he get another game for Surrey this season?He hasn't been named in the squad for the t20.Yet another promising young player slips through Surrey's fingers.
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Good move for the Bears but a strange decision from Surrey. I know that Surrey have plenty of resources but I'm not sure on the logic of letting him go.
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I think he made demands they weren't willing to acquiesce to, so off he goes.
He's promising, but I'm reliably informed there's half a dozen other 'wonderkids' not even getting a regular game in their seconds, being farmed out to clubs like Guildford.
Looks like another opportunity for someone else.
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I'm pretty sure he wants to be an opening batsman and wants regular first team cricket in that role.
The Stoneman and Borthwick signings can't have made him feel like he owes Surrey any loyalty.
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I expect Surrey are annoyed because he was the chosen one, to an extent and they have invested in him since he was 12. Very little return on that for their time, effort, and cash.
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I just read he played for Surrey from under 9s!
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I think he made demands they weren't willing to acquiesce to, so off he goes.
He's promising, but I'm reliably informed there's half a dozen other 'wonderkids' not even getting a regular game in their seconds, being farmed out to clubs like Guildford.
Looks like another opportunity for someone else.
There are plenty of guys who should get a go in the seconds but don't. I wouldn't say farming people out to Guildford is a good thing the way the club is going
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I just read he played for Surrey from under 9s!
Yes, that makes sense - 12 years of investment, my mistake.
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Is Sibley the one who got a double ton against Yorkshire at 16/17? or am I thinking of someone else?
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Is Sibley the one who got a double ton against Yorkshire at 16/17? or am I thinking of someone else?
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Think he was 18 but yes you have the right person
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I'm sure it's the same guy.you can never tell with young players but he has serious potential to go far .
I don't suppose Sanga would play on another year would he?
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Here's a question for you knowledgeable folk- who was the last Surrey homegrown player to play test cricket for England?
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Thorpe :)
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Here's a question for you knowledgeable folk- who was the last Surrey homegrown player to play test cricket for England?
Ansari?
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Define 'homegrown'. I will say Ansari as anyone would but expect some nonsense answer on a technicality.
As for Sibley he's deluded if he thinks we can bat top 3. Fair play to Stewie for sticking it out with him, shouldn't and won't be bullied.
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Oh yeah,him! What about one who had a meaningful test career then?
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FYI him and Clarke are moving now. Absolutely fine with me, would rather have a bloke who wants to play than a bloke who's trying to bully where he wants to be...
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As for Sibley he's deluded if he thinks we can bat top 3.
Is he? Why? You know something Ashley Giles doesn't?
It would only take one 1000 run season and everyone on here will have him in their Test team.
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https://www.kiaoval.com/main-news/clarke-in-and-sibley-out/ (https://www.kiaoval.com/main-news/clarke-in-and-sibley-out/)
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Rikki Clarke?
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Rikki Clarke?
No - Dave Clarke (at 5) :D
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One for the future that Clarke lad! :(
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I thought the Clarke move had been discussed already. A good signing, I reckon, regardless of the Sibley situation.
I wonder if he might be in line for the captaincy, if Batty chooses to retire?
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No - Dave Clarke (at 5) :D
I was referring tot eh last Surrey lad to play for England - having forgotten Ansari.
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Sibley not playing tonight.
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Played against time twice and oh my good is he good, if he has been promised No3 role in all formats don't blame him, no doubt he has International ambition and must feel that his best opportunity is top order more often than he gets with Surry espically with Stonemam joining. Only early 20's so why not
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Interesting update:
http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40818038 (http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/cricket/40818038)
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Will he get another game for Surrey this season?He hasn't been named in the squad for the t20.Yet another promising young player slips through Surrey's fingers.
He didn't slip through, he was given a more than decent contract offer, hes played 7+ CC games, all our T20s and 4 one day games. He decided that he could dictate that he had to bat in top 3 for all forms of the game off the back of one double ton 4 years ago and a ton this season in a pre-season friendly vs Oxford Uni.
Surrey are gutted he's gone, see what Stewie and MdV have said publicly, but wont allow someone who has nothing but potential to back himself dictate where he bats.
Not even in club cricket would you allow a bloke to say ill only play if you guarantee i bat 3 every week regardless of how well i play.
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It is not unlikely that Sibley would have had a better season than Borthwick at no. 3. They have scored a similar amount of runs, with Sibley having the slghtly better average.
But it's easy to say such things in hindsight. Borthwick came off the back of some rich form at Durham.
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It will be fine Surrey will just get the cheque book out again for a replacement
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It will be fine Surrey will just get the cheque book out again for a replacement
Or get another Curran to step up?
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Surrey have a bunch of super talented kids on the books. 3 or 4 of the eng u19 team for a start.
And there is a third Curran...! Plus there is the Baron.
So we may get the cheque book out, for another good overseas player, but Surrey will look to bring through some home grown talent too.
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If that's correct Buzzfeed and I'm sure you are right , the quick move with Riki Clarke may work out well, Clarke is a very good cricketer.
I don't think myself if it's true any player should dictate where they bat , I'm sure he wants to play more games
If I was Sibley, and I've never been close to anything other than decent level club cricket, I would be thinking about the benefits at Surrey which are Alec Stewart, Thorpe and the amazing Sanga....if your a young player three very experienced test players right there capable of assisting development.How valuable are those being at the club...
No doubt this lad is talented, as I said in my early post thou....can't see on the face of it this is a good move.
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Surrey have a bunch of super talented kids on the books. 3 or 4 of the eng u19 team for a start.
And there is a third Curran...! Plus there is the Baron.
So we may get the cheque book out, for another good overseas player, but Surrey will look to bring through some home grown talent too.
Dead right about their wealth of youth talent with Jacks, Patel and Virdi all playing well for the England u19s as well as Pope and Sam Curran already in the side there's no doubt about the youth Surrey have at their disposal. Also some very promising u17s still in the academy.
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Warwickshire have been known to produce the odd test cricketer .....
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No player is bigger than the team and should bat where placed.
Is it just me that thinks Rikki Clarke seems to have been around forever? When was his last appearance for England?
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Can't blame him for wanting to upgrade to this glorious wonderland that is Birmingham and play his home games at the best ground in the country.
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Sibley opening for Warwickshire!
I thought he only wanted to bat at 3?
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In the top three.
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Is it just me, or is Flintoff's commentary is beyond irritating?!Volume on mute.
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Is it just me that thinks Rikki Clarke seems to have been around forever? When was his last appearance for England?
He's 35 (nearly 36) now so getting on a bit (in professional cricketing terms, at least)
He was picked for England too early and never really flourished in the international stage which is a shame really.
That said he averaged 32 with the bat (top score 55) and 15 with the ball in Test cricket!
His last Test was in 2003 Vs Bangladesh
His last ODI was in 2006 Vs Pakistan
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Hey, what about Bradley Erasmus? I believe he played in the 1st XI of the school he went to, Whigift, which is really good at all sports, at like the age of 11?
Haven't heard any news on him for a while now. He's moved clubs quite a bit as well. Sunbury ---> Guildford ---> Chertsey.
I've had a couple of acquaintances that knew him. Would've expected him to be in the 1st XI at Surrey by now...
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Hey, what about Bradley Erasmus? I believe he played in the 1st XI of the school he went to, Whigift, which is really good at all sports, at like the age of 11?
Haven't heard any news on him for a while now. He's moved clubs quite a bit as well. Sunbury ---> Guildford ---> Chertsey.
I've had a couple of acquaintances that knew him. Would've expected him to be in the 1st XI at Surrey by now...
Not sure he's playing at Surrey anymore, think he left either last year or the year before. I also believe he's still playing club cricket for Guildford.
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Hey, what about Bradley Erasmus? I believe he played in the 1st XI of the school he went to, Whigift, which is really good at all sports, at like the age of 11?
Haven't heard any news on him for a while now. He's moved clubs quite a bit as well. Sunbury ---> Guildford ---> Chertsey.
I've had a couple of acquaintances that knew him. Would've expected him to be in the 1st XI at Surrey by now...
Bradley hangs around at Chertsey most weekends and plays in our CPL tournament. He's a good lad and super talented, streets above our level (plus he's enormous!) but I can't seem to get a clear idea of what he's currently doing, apart from playing for Guildford on Saturdays.
In my mind, he would have suited going to a smaller county initially as I'm sure he'd have got into the 2nd XI regularly and possibly pushed for 1XI cricket. As I understand it, one of the challenges at Surrey was that he and several other wunderkinds were frequently rotated from game to game and struggled to play 2 or 3 consecutive games. I'm sure I heard he was trying to get games for the Unicorns.
I'll ask him straight when I next see him.