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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: uknsaunders on September 24, 2017, 09:05:59 AM
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Just wondered how much they have heeded the new laws.
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Probably have 1 model that does, as it doesnt affect club cricket why should they bother? Not many batsman that will benifit properly from the extra 10cm on the edges and spine.
The only bats that will make any difference are the ridiculous laminates like @Churchy1989's which he needs to bring to southern nets
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Probably have 1 model that does, as it doesnt affect club cricket why should they bother? Not many batsman that will benifit properly from the extra 10cm on the edges and spine.
I'll have a bat with 10cm edges and a full profile in 2lb7 please
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I'll have a bat with 10cm edges and a full profile in 2lb7 please
And Schwarzenegger's arms?
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I won't be taking any notice for amateur bats, all a bit of a farce anyway - we all know it'll make 0 difference
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I know that GN will keep making the Pro Performance which is unlikely to be compliant. The Kronus Halestorm has a "double edge" which allows it to be big but fit into the gauge, kind of like the Vortex from a few years ago. Kookaburra will all be compliant, and the Fever Max is designed to be the absolute maximum specs whilst still compliant.
CBD
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IT'd be interesting to see what GN-AUS churns out in light of decision to continue making some non-compliant models.
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Yep, I guess except for Warner, there is hardly one else effected.
These restrictions are laughable, in my opinion.
"40 mm edges and 67 mm spine"
You will still see miss-hits going for sixes instead of a catch in today's 60 meter boundaries.
In my opinion, 30 mm edge and 50 mm spine in an 80 meter boundary will separate boys from men.
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Yep, I guess except for Warner, there is hardly one else effected.
These restrictions are laughable, in my opinion.
"40 mm edges and 67 mm spine"
You will still see miss-hits going for sixes instead of a catch in today's 60 meter boundaries.
In my opinion, 30 mm edge and 50 mm spine in an 80 meter boundary will separate boys from men.
Get the edges bit but they should of left the spine alone. Batsman should be rewarded for using the middle of the bat.
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Aussie made GN Velocity & XXX are still bigger than regulation size. Atleast the ones i got from Meulemans.
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From personal experience, few players who I feel are affected by this law (for sure) are; Shoaib Malik, Davis Warner, Kamran Akmal and MS Dhoni.
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Warner goes back to the bats he began with http://es.pn/2wVPMVK (http://es.pn/2wVPMVK)
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Warner goes back to the bats he began with [url]http://es.pn/2wVPMVK[/url] ([url]http://es.pn/2wVPMVK[/url])
Now Ponting et-al will find something else to whine about!
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Probably have 1 model that does, as it doesnt affect club cricket why should they bother? Not many batsman that will benifit properly from the extra 10cm on the edges and spine.
The only bats that will make any difference are the ridiculous laminates like @Churchy1989's which he needs to bring to southern nets
Thanks sold, and not a laminate.
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Thanks sold, and not a laminate.
That Slazenger? Damn, why didn't you sell it on the forum, I was disappointed missing out when you bought it!
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Now that the sizes are restricted, did anyone observe or expect handles to get back to senior widths?..almost all brands since last few years had what you can call junior width handles which won't do with single grip for the average sized mens hand. My 5 months old SS ton handle recently broke two inches above the handle bottom and it was not a surprise with such a big bat and extremely thin handle. The fact that i added extra grip expectedly didnt strengthen the thin handle itself as opposed to having a thicker/stronger handle in the first place..
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Keep an eye out for a "final release" from gn aus
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Intriguing @Aussiecollector any further details you can share?
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As I understand the new laws it's up to the leagues to determine if you can or can't use illegal bats. I imagine most have kept quiet to avoid annoying players or getting caught up with cost disputes. Not sure umpires will be armed with bat gauges either. Better to keep quiet and let old age take it's course. Not many cheating handle bats left.
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GM have made bat gauges for umpires @ £5, wouldn't surprise me to see some umpires armed with them wanting to flout their new power.
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That Slazenger? Damn, why didn't you sell it on the forum, I was disappointed missing out when you bought it!
@edge
Sold it too a team mate who is very very strong and he fell in love with it.
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Not in any way related to the last comment, are there manufacturers who have actively helped push these new laws along? It must be in the interest of at least a few
Laver seemed very vocal on the matter trying to push the new rules through, wouldn't surprise me if most of the companies using JS Wrights as willow suppliers also pushed it through as the new regs seem to be uncannily similar to the max measurements you can get out of a 'standard' cleft from them
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I was told on Twitter by 3D sports that GM and Kook will not make a bat bigger than the new Reg's.......apparently they told them when they went to their shop.
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Laver seemed very vocal on the matter trying to push the new rules through, wouldn't surprise me if most of the companies using JS Wrights as willow suppliers also pushed it through as the new regs seem to be uncannily similar to the max measurements you can get out of a 'standard' cleft from them
I have had the same suspicion about the max bat size regulations. I was disappointed when James Laver started yammering about the cleft size in his facebook video. Never buying a Laver again that's for sure.
God bless GN AUS for making such amazing bats! If I could, I'd put Stu Kranzbuhler visage on $1 coin. What a great man!
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GM have made bat gauges for umpires @ £5, wouldn't surprise me to see some umpires armed with them wanting to flout their new power.
I saw this in their catalogue. Cannot wait for certain Jobs-worth umpires in our league to measure everyones bat as they walk to the crease.....
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I was told on Twitter by 3D sports that GM and Kook will not make a bat bigger than the new Reg's.......apparently they told them when they went to their shop.
Kook are doing one big bat and so are GN
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The actual thickness of edge tape and scuff sheet is negligible; if you were to measure it with callipers I can't see it being over 0.1-0.3 mm maximum
If you had layered tape several times like Samit Patel has been seen to do then it may make more of an impact but I still can't see it making a major difference
The measurements of the GM Guage are exact to that of the new law, 40mm edge and 60mm spine allowing up to 67mm for a face camber
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This only applies in first class cricket right?
Can see some umpires trying it on below that so will be some fun discussions
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The actual thickness of edge tape and scuff sheet is negligible; if you were to measure it with callipers I can't see it being over 0.1-0.3 mm maximum
If you had layered tape several times like Samit Patel has been seen to do then it may make more of an impact but I still can't see it making a major difference
The measurements of the GM Guage are exact to that of the new law, 40mm edge and 60mm spine allowing up to 67mm for a face camber
Dorset's got a point - scuff plus tape on both sides could easily add up to 1mm+ across a bat, plus allow for manufacturing tolerances on the gauge. Then the fact that you don't want a 40mm/60mm gauge, you want a gauge that a 40mm/60mm bat will fit through, there must should be some allowance in the gauges. Looks like the sensible bat nerd will be in need of a decent set of verniers! ;)
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I’ve got a text from our secretary to say umpires are going on bat size regulations for 2018 and will be implementing new restrictions in our league
I asked him if he was joking and he said ‘no absolutely not joking’
I find this almost unbelievable
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As it stands the ICC have left it down to individual national governing bodies to implement it into their amateur leagues. To my knowledge the ECB have not announced anything for 2018 so a league deciding to do it off their own back would surely need a majority vote from it's members (the clubs) at an AGM....
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As it stands the ICC have left it down to individual national governing bodies to implement it into their amateur leagues. To my knowledge the ECB have not announced anything for 2018 so a league deciding to do it off their own back would surely need a majority vote from it's members (the clubs) at an AGM....
Does that explain your league move @Vitas Cricket ;)
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Does that explain your league move @Vitas Cricket ;)
Haha, if Yogi brings bat gauges into the Cambs league i'd be amazed.
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If an ump wants to tell me my bat is illegal fine but he and the league will be getting the bill for a new one
Okay first class as free kit but not at amateur level
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If an ump wants to tell me my bat is illegal fine but he and the league will be getting the bill for a new one
Okay first class as free kit but not at amateur level
Well said that man. I'm not a fan of huge edges myself and don't know the size of my current bat ,however it looks like it's coming in on our level.
Presumably the umps measures your bat and its 42mm whatever, tells you it cannot be used, your team mates won't lend you one so the umpire then gives you out as well. :)
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I'll probably struggle to find a legal bat in the collection
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I'll probably struggle to find a legal bat in the collection
@JB get the sander out!!!!
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I'll probably struggle to find a legal bat in the collection
I don't think I own an "illegal" bat :-[
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I don't think I own an "illegal" bat :-[
That’s just boring Cam!! :D
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If an ump wants to tell me my bat is illegal fine but he and the league will be getting the bill for a new one
Okay first class as free kit but not at amateur level
Exactly. It's ridiculous to expect amateur cricketers to go and buy a new bat. Shouldn't even be remotely considered below Prem Div level and even then it's still a daft idea. Hard enough for clubs to get 2nd and 3rd XI's playing but now you might have to convince people to go and spend a fortune on new kit as well. Good un.
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I don't think I own an "illegal" bat :-[
Me neither! I have some that are close but I don't think any exceed the limit
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The gauge will be in attendance at the CBF nets and any non compliant bats will be returned to the MCC to be destroyed* :D
*honest guv
Someone grab a barbecue theres going to be some fire wood! And burgers.
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Just measured all the bats I have in at the moment ready to go out... not one passes haha, even a 2.8 is too big.
My bad, MCC. :D
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oh great now you tell me @Neon Cricket :-P
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Just measured all the bats I have in at the moment ready to go out... not one passes haha, even a 2.8 is too big.
My bad, MCC. :D
Any pics of this 2.8 beast?
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Will get some pics for you this evening/tomorrow @Churchy1989 - currently in the process of finishing off a little DIY project which should be complete this evening (thread to follow!)
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Just an update from our AGM last night we had a league panel umpire attending truly unbelievable but be mentioned bat regulations will be enforced, he has a measuring tool
I asked him what is the procedure for bats not complying and he said
Your bat will be confiscated, when I said you cannot take my own bat from me the reply
You will be red carded
Honestly I choked on my peanuts
This is total nonsense. I am deliberately going to use an oversized bat now for sure just for the hell of it
Bring it on!!
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Ah I knew some jobsworth would be petty enough to start this,
Hope none of the idiots that umpire our league jump on this stupid bandwagon
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Just an update from our AGM last night we had a league panel umpire attending truly unbelievable but be mentioned bat regulations will be enforced, he has a measuring tool
I asked him what is the procedure for bats not complying and he said
Your bat will be confiscated, when I said you cannot take my own bat from me the reply
You will be red carded
Honestly I choked on my peanuts
This is total nonsense. I am deliberately going to use an oversized bat now for sure just for the hell of it
Bring it on!!
Absolute joke.
What league/standard is this?
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My H4L custom SS Jumbo a like has a max 22 mm edge, and laughs in the face of an MCC bat gauge.
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Just an update from our AGM last night we had a league panel umpire attending truly unbelievable but be mentioned bat regulations will be enforced, he has a measuring tool
I asked him what is the procedure for bats not complying and he said
Your bat will be confiscated, when I said you cannot take my own bat from me the reply
You will be red carded
Honestly I choked on my peanuts
This is total nonsense. I am deliberately going to use an oversized bat now for sure just for the hell of it
Bring it on!!
Fair enough if they stop you using it , but trying to confiscate it ?!!!! Who do they think they are ? A school principal ? Ludicrous !
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@ppccopener I'd have asked if the league will cover the cost to replace the bats that can no longer be used. Absolutely ridiculous idea!
Will a number 11 using a bat with a 41mm edge really make any difference to the outcome of games?
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I think the problem as I see it they have left it to the leagues to use their discretion.this is the third time I have heard this will be enforced
I’m a trying to think of something more ridiculous for club cricket
Anyone remember newberys c6 handles? They said club players could still use them but stopped the manufacturers making them under mcc guidelines....
This is exactly the same thing to me
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There is a need for a bat maker who'd entertain ONLY the club market by flouting MCC regulations. "We respond to the demands of our customers not MCC, ICC, or that used tp, Ricky Ponting! We make big bats for club players to bring them the most possible joy of hitting a cricket ball with a giant ass bat to make their weekend the absolute best. Haters can suck on it!" :D
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My biggest disappointment was James Laver when he started yammering on facebook AGAINST big bats. He reminded me of Lars Ulrich of Metallica when they picked a fight against Napster. Lars looked like a greedy, talking hemorrhoid and could not stop the streaming tsunami that changed the music industry.
Let their be big bats for us clubbies!
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There is a need for a bat maker who'd entertain ONLY the club market by flouting MCC regulations. "We respond to the demands of our customers not MCC, ICC, or that used tp, Ricky Ponting! We make big bats for club players to bring them the most possible joy of hitting a cricket ball with a giant ass bat to make their weekend the absolute best. Haters can suck on it!" :D
New bat company : B.A.B .....Big Ass Bats .
Or maybe i could start a bat manufacturing company catering to both big , illegal bats and smaller , legal ones . I could call it , I don't know ..... Biggie Smalls ? ;) ;) :D
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the new bat regs has massively helped bat makers and willow merchants. They now can make standard shapes and not have to produce massive light bats on demand and also i assume oversized clefts would cost more.
I am sure we will still be able to get big bats from custom makers
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Just an update from our AGM last night we had a league panel umpire attending truly unbelievable but be mentioned bat regulations will be enforced, he has a measuring tool
I asked him what is the procedure for bats not complying and he said
Your bat will be confiscated, when I said you cannot take my own bat from me the reply
You will be red carded
Honestly I choked on my peanuts
This is total nonsense. I am deliberately going to use an oversized bat now for sure just for the hell of it
Bring it on!!
If they are going to follow this rule then they should also enforce all other MMC bat regulations. In which case can we expect every batsman in your league to have their bat inspected at the start of their innings to check it isn't either oversized, a laminate, has a graphite back or a carbon handle, etc.
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If they are going to follow this rule then they should also enforce all other MMC bat regulations. In which case can we expect every batsman in your league to have their bat inspected at the start of their innings to check it isn't either oversized, a laminate, has a graphite back or a carbon handle, etc.
Let's not forget no metallic edge stickers or edge stamps to confuse that fragile ol hotspot .
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New bat company : B.A.B .....Big Ass Bats .
Or maybe i could start a bat manufacturing company catering to both big , illegal bats and smaller , legal ones . I could call it , I don't know ..... Biggie Smalls ? ;) ;) :D
Do it, Biggie!!! World needs Big Ass Bats!! :D
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the new bat regs has massively helped bat makers and willow merchants. They now can make standard shapes and not have to produce massive light bats on demand and also i assume oversized clefts would cost more.
I am sure we will still be able to get big bats from custom makers
I wouldn't be surprised if JS Wright pulled some strings to start this ruckus! They stand to financially benefit the most from all this.
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Do it, Biggie!!! World needs Big Ass Bats!! :D
We need a logo .
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I wouldn't be surprised if JS Wright pulled some strings to start this ruckus! They stand to financially benefit the most from all this.
my thoughts exactly, no more requests for oversized clefts although percentage wise they must have been very minimal
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We need a logo .
Hahahahahhaha
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I did wonder if a certain bat maker who produces more bats than any other might be pulling some strings as well...
Name name, bruh. Don't be shy. :D As long as I have had my fill of their big bats, I am ok with you naming names. :D
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Name name, bruh. Don't be shy. :D As long as I have had my fill of their big bats, I am ok with you naming names. :D
SSssshhhhh ! Be very very quiet . :D