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Equipment => Bats => Topic started by: Sitonit on May 26, 2020, 10:31:52 PM
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What if all consumers in the world stop buying ANY new bat from ANY manufacture for at least a year? Everyone has more than enough bats to last them for a year or many of us have spares that we can sell or lend to fellow batsman in support. The goal should be, to boycott the sky rocketing prices and bring the bat the manufacturers/retailers back into their senses. It's ridiculous to see a freaking G2 being marketed for almost £400.
What the heck is this?
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It might sound sensible but could be counterproductive. If a large number of smaller makers go out of business you'll have less competition, meaning less incentive for the larger makers to compete on price.
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Just vote with your wallet instead of closing it. Support small manufacturers that have fair pricing and are honest.
Neon, Red ink, Robert James, Scott cricket bats, H4L, etc etc.
The cost of top end willow has not increased on a comparable scale to the end prices - that means margins have been the driving factor behind the price rise.
Personally I won't ever buy a bat direct from keeley, gray nics, etc as I don't agree with their pricing and I think others that feel the same should do the same. However as everyone mentioned in the other thread. Where there are people with (in my opinion) more money than sense that will pay £650-1000 for a piece of wood that may break on first use, then companies will exploit this.
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Absolutely Jake supporting the smaller brands (and retailers) is the only way we will have what we know as a cricket industry after all this is over.
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Agree with Jimbo here but maybe with slightly different reasoning, the cricket industry is a business just like any other and not immune to a significant downturn which is around the corner.
People with enough money of course are recession proof and that's been the same throughout history.
Much has been discussed on the other thread about 600-700 quid bats being the norm now, is there a shortage of willow forcing up prices? I don't know the answer to that...
But as the prices go up for the lower grade bats as well as top of the range that opens a gap for the smaller companies who don't have large overheads or sponsorship to pay for(as in free or discounted bats for pro's)
So I see the gap widening and people looking for better value from smaller batmakers- this gap seems to be getting bigger.
That is how I see it, could be wrong but with prices climbing steeply, the average earning club cricketer may think there are other priorities For there money.
At best in 2020 it looks like half a season of games...that has to be a factor in any new buying surely?
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are you sure?
Yes. 100% sure that Adam has fair pricing.
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are you sure?
Also, don't use the quote feature, and then edit what I said, it doesn't work that way 😂
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are you sure?
Care to explain? Happy to alleviate any concerns - I've been nothing but upfront since starting the brand so if for any reason I'm coming across as dishonest I would very much like the opportunity to put that right
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so who makes his bats? can you buy a custom bat with that manufacturer for a lower price?
why are there exactly the same softs available at lower prices?
i understand there are running costs and he has a premise to run/pay for (i.e. not a bedroom/home run company). but fair pricing - is that fair for his costs or fair on the same products from UK sources?
FOR THE RECORD - this is just enquring questions - to help form a more informed judgement - as from what i have seen on here/ Neon's website and seing Neon stuff in the flesh (people from Trowbridge CC using it) and Neon's ebay selling (stickers P&P 4.95) i am not convinced.....
I don't know anywhere you can get the same quality as Adam for a lower price. He is in line with the boutique brand prices.
He has spent hours badgering over every aspect of his branding, his soft design and his bat source.
Also the argument you just presented is akin to saying - I can make a cricket bat cheaper than I can buy one from X brand, or retailers are dishonest because they buy the bats from the manufacturer cheaper than we get them.
Of course it will be cheaper to go direct to the source, it's a basic of business that you have to add on a margin on top of your cost price.
Also once you factor in shipping, import duties etc, it probably isn't much cheaper no.
Show me an example of anywhere the exact same softs as Adam has designed are available elsewhere for a lower price.
Also 5 quid to send a large letter reinforced with cardboard to try and make sure your stickers don't get bent, in a next day delivery, seems pretty fair to me.
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so who makes his bats? can you buy a custom bat with that manufacturer for a lower price?
why are there exactly the same softs available at lower prices?
i understand there are running costs and he has a premise to run/pay for (i.e. not a bedroom/home run company). but fair pricing - is that fair for his costs or fair on the same products from UK sources?
FOR THE RECORD - this is just enquring questions - to help form a more informed judgement - as from what i have seen on here/ Neon's website and seing Neon stuff in the flesh (people from Trowbridge CC using it) and Neon's ebay selling (stickers P&P 4.95) i am not convinced.....
Having picked up a pair of Neon pads this year, I would love to know where you think I could get exactly the same (quality of material, branding, etc) for the extremely good price I paid.
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I'm agreeing with Simmy's sentiment yesterday more by the post at the moment... :(
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He has spent hours badgering over every aspect of his branding, his soft design and his bat source. - i'm sure every company does
Also the argument you just presented is akin to saying - I can make a cricket bat cheaper than I can buy one from X brand, or retailers are dishonest because they buy the bats from the manufacturer cheaper than we get them. - i am not saying i can make a bat what so ever, i am asking if - in this ecnomically tight time - i can buy the same make of bat for better value and
Of course it will be cheaper to go direct to the source, it's a basic of business that you have to add on a margin on top of your cost price. i spoke about this in my response to you so i am not sure what point you are making here
Also once you factor in shipping, import duties etc, it probably isn't much cheaper no. if i buy from overseas - i said UK based - i was not going to say about the same softs, unbranded or not from online stockists
Show me an example of anywhere the exact same softs as Adam has designed are available elsewhere for a lower price.
https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/264525945709?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=264525945709&targetid=877514743599&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007129&poi=&campaignid=9437711009&mkgroupid=101485162971&rlsatarget=aud-629407027345:pla-877514743599&abcId=1140496&merchantid=119059337&gclid=Cj0KCQjwn7j2BRDrARIsAHJkxmwrOWybwaMLLf2pNNA0CXp82CI838LTAJRdUFWJ_-DhWz9z55kg8l0aAsgNEALw_wcB (https://www.ebay.co.uk/i/264525945709?chn=ps&norover=1&mkevt=1&mkrid=710-134428-41853-0&mkcid=2&itemid=264525945709&targetid=877514743599&device=c&mktype=pla&googleloc=1007129&poi=&campaignid=9437711009&mkgroupid=101485162971&rlsatarget=aud-629407027345:pla-877514743599&abcId=1140496&merchantid=119059337&gclid=Cj0KCQjwn7j2BRDrARIsAHJkxmwrOWybwaMLLf2pNNA0CXp82CI838LTAJRdUFWJ_-DhWz9z55kg8l0aAsgNEALw_wcB)
to me these are the same pads - this may be a bedroom seller, but they are brand new and BAS, so there is an extra mark up as it is being sold by a retailer, not a direct seller, so the mark up should be more?
sorry if i'm wrong or have upset you (or anyone) i was just after more info - as what i have seen has not made me want to buy from a company that is local to me, so i was looking to see if i was wrong about my opinion
I'm not sure we are looking at the same product here, those pads are quite obviously completely different to Adams. Lol. There is no quilting on the top hat, the straps look cheap, there's no gel in the knee roll, etc etc. Bit like comparing a fiat 500 to a ferrari that one.
You can't buy the same make of bat with the same shape anywhere in the UK as far as I'm aware unless it was a custom order.
The point I was making is that you undermine your entire argument against Adam when you say its cheaper to go direct and therefore it's not fair pricing.
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Would add as well, part of what you pay for with the smaller brands is the customer service. When I was buying my pads, Adam went away and measured his stock for me and was happy and easily available to discuss what I was looking for.
Quite happy to pay a (small) premium to support someone who provides that level of service. Would challenge you to find any of the big brands who will go that far out of their way when you haven't even committed to a purchase.
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@dt-second-hand-cricket
These would be more accurate comparisons as a bar one are from the same supplier...
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(https://i.postimg.cc/Pq6BN8GS/Screenshot-20200527-090815-com-android-chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4K98Syxc)
(https://i.postimg.cc/V6d2tLmm/Screenshot-20200527-090958-com-android-chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JDCTV8s2)
Odd that they all seem around the same price or more expensive 😂
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fine - happy to admit from the information given i am wrong
my apologies for annoying people with what i though were genuine questions and concerns
@Jimbo your last post is the one that shows the difference as you say about the 'bespoked' service rather than 'off the self' buying
have deleted my posts as obviously as @WalkingWicket37 commented i know nothing - which i am happy to admit
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Service isn't the only difference mind but IMO it certainly justifies the price. My Neon pads are an excellent bit of kit and a huge improvement on my previous Adidas ones which were only about £20 cheaper from a much larger brand which obviously benefits from economies of scale.
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Would add as well, part of what you pay for with the smaller brands is the customer service. When I was buying my pads, Adam went away and measured his stock for me and was happy and easily available to discuss what I was looking for.
Quite happy to pay a (small) premium to support someone who provides that level of service. Would challenge you to find any of the big brands who will go that far out of their way when you haven't even committed to a purchase.
Adam has gone out of his way helping me out with cap designs, great communication. Same can be said about Pryzm whilst looking into caps. All the Neon kit I've got is top quality, going right back the keeping kit I had in the first iteration of Neon was fantastic and I've still got the pads for coaching.
Every time I've dealt with Adam, it has been absolutely seamless, quick and easy. If there is a delay I've always been made well aware. Supporting small companies is vital, especially at a time like this. Its also interesting to look at some companies social media presence, as I'm doing a digital marketing qualification at the moment. Some just put up pictures or videos of kit in their supplies, whilst Adam engages with the people buying/prospective buyers, gives hints about what is being worked on etc.
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The possibility of the mega brands reducing their pricing structure is little to non existent if you ask me.
The key reason to this is that franchise T20/T10/100 ball tournaments have extenuated the earning potential of every player - even the average player is earning good money all year round.
Throw in that the mega players - de Villiers, Warner, Kohli, Buttler earn so much from just their franchise deals, then in turn they can demand considerably more from their bat sponsors.
There in turn those manufactures offset that expenditure on to the regular customers.
Long story short, unless the franchise structure goes bust - seems highly improbable - there's pricing structures aren't going to change.
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I'm agreeing with Simmy's sentiment yesterday more by the post at the moment... :(
Same here, started feeling it around 6 months ago
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so who makes his bats? can you buy a custom bat with that manufacturer for a lower price?
why are there exactly the same softs available at lower prices?
i understand there are running costs and he has a premise to run/pay for (i.e. not a bedroom/home run company). but fair pricing - is that fair for his costs or fair on the same products from UK sources?
FOR THE RECORD - this is just enquring questions - to help form a more informed judgement - as from what i have seen on here/ Neon's website and seing Neon stuff in the flesh (people from Trowbridge CC using it) and Neon's ebay selling (stickers P&P 4.95) i am not convinced.....
Ok here goes...
1. The bats are imported and handmade (@LEACHY48 ;)) in India, I don't deny or hide this away. Up until late 2018 I sourced bats on a made to order basis from Hunts County however unfortunately they weren't able to keep up with demand as the company grew. I should note that it actually costs me quite significantly more per bat/by grade to import from India than it did to source from Hunts... I won't go into the specifics of the reasoning for this on a public forum though for various reasons (it is a business after all!).
2. All of my softs and luggage have had countless hours of design work and years of tweaks/improvements put into them. If you're able to find softs of the same spec at a cheaper price then I would genuinely be interested to see them (I have just noticed the eBay link for the BAS pads, without even reading the description there's a number of stark differences which admittedly likely isn't noticeable to joe public but to the 'trained' eye it's quite obvious (PU instep, cheaper embossing, lower quality straps/ amongst others - not to mention the RRP for these is exactly the same as my pads...). The only comparable softs to my knowledge are being sold at higher RRPs than my website, so if I was to actually price these in line with the market then they should be higher if anything!
Are the softs I sell cheap? No, and I understand they're likely out of the price range of what a lot of people are willing to spend, however I firmly believe that you truly get what you pay for. They're built to last, not like the majority of guff being sold on the market nowadays where you'll be lucky to get a 2nd season's usage out of them.
3. I play for Trowbridge CC hence the link (Actually now skipper the 2s, Wilts Div 2 - safe to say 2020 hasn't been the start to my captaincy reign that I expected haha!). If you aren't already aware I've also recently taken over the lead sponsorship for the whole Wiltshire County Cricket League too, this is currently running up until the end of the 2023 season so I'm sure you'll be seeing more of Neon!
On a side note regarding the eBay account, annoyingly I was locked out of the account "NeonCricket" back in January and the email address/personal details were changed to someone in China... eBay have been less than helpful getting this back so I have had to make a new account 'NeonCricketUK'. The labels still listed on 'NeonCricket' are old 2019 stock, and the postage charge is using my usual small parcel courier hence the cost (luckily I still get the notifications via PayPal when something sells so can fulfil the orders, albeit without accessing eBay itself!).
4. Lastly I should like to add that I have an extremely loyal customer base that I am very much grateful for, year after year I'm gaining new customers who in turn have returned every year so far. The growth of the brand in the past 2 seasons has far surpassed all projections I had forecasted which is ultimately a testament to my supplier and the quality of products I am lucky enough to be able to provide to my customers. I fully understand the brand isn't at the cheap end of the market, but I've always strived to offer the best product possible so if that means being at the higher end then that's absolutely fine by me. I supply a large number of players within the Minor County circuit and have some of the leading players in WEPL using the gear which hopefully helps to prove the level of quality the kit provides.
Any other queries please do give me a shout!
Cheers,
Adam
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@dt-second-hand-cricket
These would be more accurate comparisons as a bar one are from the same supplier...
(https://i.postimg.cc/C11m2vQN/Screenshot-20200527-091148-com-instagram-android.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/gwCVXKdX)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Pq6BN8GS/Screenshot-20200527-090815-com-android-chrome.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/4K98Syxc)
Odd that they all seem around the same price or more expensive 😂
They're also either bog standard off the shelf designs or made to a lower spec, note the 2 piece thumb etc ;)
Have removed the Phantom image as in fairness they're another brand that clearly put good time and money into their softs, albeit being a touch more expensive.
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The possibility of the mega brands reducing their pricing structure is little to non existent if you ask me.
The key reason to this is that franchise T20/T10/100 ball tournaments have extenuated the earning potential of every player - even the average player is earning good money all year round.
Throw in that the mega players - de Villiers, Warner, Kohli, Buttler earn so much from just their franchise deals, then in turn they can demand considerably more from their bat sponsors.
There in turn those manufactures offset that expenditure on to the regular customers.
Long story short, unless the franchise structure goes bust - seems highly improbable - there's pricing structures aren't going to change.
Couldn't agree more, since the growth of franchise cricket the asking price for pro sponsorships (decent pros that anyone has heard of*) has gone through the roof - I won't name names or prices however a 4 year deal to sponsor the entire 9 Division Wiltshire League was cheaper than 2 years sponsoring what I would class as a mid-level county pro (CBFers and his own county might know him but that's probably about it!). And that's before the free equipment too!
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@dt-second-hand-cricket
Just tried to PM you mate but it appears your account has gone (or I've been blocked!), if you read this feel free to drop me a email/FB message - adam@neoncricket.co.uk
Was just trying to make sure nothing came across as aggro, I'm not that sort of guy! Genuinely keen to just answer any queries you have/had :)
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Buying and selling on this forum is like and addiction!! We love seeing new wood and leather most days!!
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Quite simply buy what you like and can afford. Before this year I hadn’t spent over £225 on a bat in over 4 years. I pushed the boat out to buy something i had wanted for a long time and an offer came along that made the normal insane price just about justifiable to me. Here is the main point for me, i was justifiable to me and thats all that matters.
All this talk of can you buy this and that cheaper direct, well yes of course you can.
If it really bothers you, i guess there are two options. Vote with your wallet as has been suggested. It will make bugger all difference to the industry or prices but you may feel better about it. Secondly start a brand, source the suppliers design the products spend hundreds of hours getting this right and correct and into the market. Price it lower than anyone else to the point where you work for nothing, Sit back and wait for people to criticise you for running your own business in your own way
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Interesting thread this... some revelations for sure.
I don't know anywhere you can get the same quality as Adam for a lower price. He is in line with the boutique brand prices.
Not to step on toes as this has very much been a Neon fan thread but just took a look their grading page... is £249.99 for a bat with "Usually 5+ grains, blemishes or butterfly stain likely" really unbeatable value? Other batmakers take a lot of stick on here for selling butterfly bats for a lot less than that, or for 'performance' grading.
Vote with your wallet is a sensible policy, lots of brands sell bats at reasonable prices after all. If we all boycott everyone the smaller brands with the best prices wouldn't last long, and then we'd look like right idiots!
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With respect Ed, at no point have I claimed to be 'unbeatable value' - bit of a ridiculous claim to make after I just wrote a whole post saying how Neon absolutely isn't the cheapest brand around.
With regards to the grading, that page is there for the sake of being there - it's actually the lowest viewed page on my website, which really does show that the public just don't care about grading like we do. In reality I rarely have a bat available that actually matches the bare minimum as far as the grading scales go, and on the odd occasion I do they're usually sold off to mates for less as I wouldn't be willing to send them out at the full RRP. Again, my focus is on building long-term customer relationships and trust, not just a quick buck.
Ultimately, as I've said before, it's about getting what you pay for. If you want an average finished bat from an inconsistent supplier then there are plenty of options available for far less than I charge (albeit there are also plenty of other companies that provide a similar product for a lesser price, but the majority of these don't have overheads/aren't even registered businesses so are able to charge the prices they do).
I know I pay a premium for the bats I receive, but I'll happily pay the additional price if it means I'm receiving a premium product to send out to my customers. I've had well over 150 bats since January (with another batch currently en-route) and every single one has been made to exactly the detailed specification I request and has been finished to the highest standard I've seen anywhere from a trade supplier (trust me, when I say detailed I must be a right pain in the (No Swearing Please) haha!). Having that level of consistency and trust with my supplier is more than worth the cost and the repeat order % from my customer base would support this.
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Not directed at you mate, which I think you're well aware of considering it was a quote reply to a specific post. Your prices are absolutely your own business, but if Leachy says you can't find equivalent for a lower price elsewhere I'm happy to say where I disagree - don't take that as a punt at yourself when you know it isn't.
Interesting about the grades page, why write a grading spec that you think is unacceptable at full price?
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Interesting thread this... some revelations for sure.
Not to step on toes as this has very much been a Neon fan thread but just took a look their grading page... is £249.99 for a bat with "Usually 5+ grains, blemishes or butterfly stain likely" really unbeatable value? Other batmakers take a lot of stick on here for selling butterfly bats for a lot less than that, or for 'performance' grading.
Vote with your wallet is a sensible policy, lots of brands sell bats at reasonable prices after all. If we all boycott everyone the smaller brands with the best prices wouldn't last long, and then we'd look like right idiots!
To be fair Ed, I can't see any posts on here where Neon are claiming to be the cheapest around or unbeatable value. Happy to be corrected if this is not right.
They are providing customer service with a gap in the market, and it seems to be working for them.
I don't have any Neon gear but I would say the same about Oxfordshire cricket, H4L, red ink etc etc...
If people have good experiences, or bad for that matter, can't see anything wrong with posting comments here.
The role of the traditional sports sport/retailer is changing all the time and some of these smaller companies are replacing them, you get the product plus a service you would get in a shop
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To be fair Ed, I can't see any posts on here where Neon are claiming to be the cheapest around or unbeatable value. Happy to be corrected if this is not right.
I can't see any posts on here where I suggested they did, unless you're saying Leachy works for Neon now. :)
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I can't see any posts on here where I suggested they did, unless you're saying Leachy works for Neon now. :)
No I'm not, I'm reading Neon's comments and what I'm saying is from his comments he wants to build repeat customers thru service-there is always someone somewhere to do any job cheaper....
I don't think the really unbeatable value or lowest price is what he relies on to grow the business
Happy to be corrected as always
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Interesting about the grades page, why write a grading spec that you think is unacceptable at full price?
Because that's the lowest spec I could receive for the grades I order from my supplier. Just because I might receive bats to this spec and could in theory send out bats at that spec to customers, doesn't mean I'll actually do it. But I put it up there because, for the umpteenth time, it's called being transparent. I can't stress enough that I'm not out to rip people off or make a quick buck. You're well aware of my line of work and that I am very much in a luxury position that Neon is my hobby - I easily spend 20+ hours a week running the company but I do it because I enjoy it. I'm an entrepreneurial person, whereas some people spend their spare time playing video games I'd much rather be down my unit working on my next business idea/plan (Instagram will show what I've been up to the last few weeks!) .
Also, I have a large number of people who visit to pick out their bat (well I did before COVID!), so having the transparent grading online means they don't get any surprises when they arrive. Funnily enough it's actually the heavily blemished bats that usually get taken by people visiting once they've got a mallet on them. When someone visits you know whether they're looking for cosmetics or pure performance, unfortunately that isn't an option for online customers hence not being willing to send out these sort of bats blind to them.
Fun fact for anyone who calls BS on my comments above about running Neon as a hobby and not for profit. Since starting the company, other than my own playing equipment, I've never taken a penny from the company. Every single penny of profit has been re-invested straight back into the brand.
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As Adam has said Ed, every bat I have seen from neon has been generously graded.
Strange really, the term value is so subjective as everyone had pointed out.
Can I get a butterfly cheaper than I can from Adam at his rrp... Probably. Will I trust it as much as I trust Adam? No.
Will the customer service be the same? Probably not.
Will the consistency be the same? Almost definitely not.
So the 'unbeatable value' to me, is an amalgamation of all the above.
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Especially when ordering online I think customer service is a big factor. There aren't many options up in Scotland to go look at cricket kit or visit workshops, etc so having confidence that the people/company I'm dealing with will resolve any issues is a big factor for me. Imagine it's the same with a lot of people who either can't or don't want to go to retailers or manufacturers to buy kit.
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So the 'unbeatable value' to me, is an amalgamation of all the above.
as a newbie to this forum, i think the 'to me' bit is the point here, you have an opinion, so does someone else - neither of you are wrong - as they are opinions not facts....
if someone else doesn't see 175 quid for pads as gloves as value then they are allowed to - i wouldn't pay that much, but some would - there is no need to jump down peoples throats about it
if you want people to engage in discussion on this forum then that might not be the best way to go about it, if you want an echo chamber - then please keep on the same way
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as a newbie to this forum, i think the 'to me' bit is the point here, you have an opinion, so does someone else - neither of you are wrong - as they are opinions not facts....
if someone else doesn't see 175 quid for pads as gloves as value then they are allowed to - i wouldn't pay that much, but some would - there is no need to jump down peoples throats about it
if you want people to engage in discussion on this forum then that might not be the best way to go about it, if you want an echo chamber - then please keep on the same way
Welcome to the forum, definitely an interesting first post.
I haven't jumped down anyone's throat. I simply stated facts regarding the differences in products and when someone questioned the honesty and morality of a brand I trust, I responded using facts, not opinion, other than my statement regarding value.
Ed raised the point it wasn't value to him. I disagree. We are adults and allowed to do so.
At no stage have I personally targeted anyone, nor insulted, nor been disrespectful.
Can I respectfully suggest you readdress your definition of 'jumping down the throat'.
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Welcome to the forum, definitely an interesting first post.
so i'm not allowed an opinion as i am a new poster? or do i just have to have the same viewpoint as you?
let me know which it is so i can post more appropriately in the future dear boy :D
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so i'm not allowed an opinion as i am a new poster? or do i just have to have the same viewpoint as you?
let me know which it is so i can post more appropriately in the future dear boy :D
I'm not quite sure you understand the point of my post. You have literally quoted me saying your post was interesting. At no stage did I say you weren't allowed an opinion.
I simply suggested you readdress your definition of jumping down the throat, as you don't appear to understand what it means. If you feel I have jumped down anyone's throat, please, quote it and I'll be happy to clarify for you.
Perhaps I could respectfully make a couple more suggestions for you, they may come in useful for you:
1) Actually read and understand the post before replying
2) Take some more time to consider your response, your second one comes off a little juvenile to be honest.
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Let's take it down a notch please gents, the forum is best kept civil.
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I'm not quite sure you understand the point of my post. You have literally quoted me saying your post was interesting. At no stage did I say you weren't allowed an opinion.
I simply suggested you readdress your definition of jumping down the throat, as you don't appear to understand what it means. If you feel I have jumped down anyone's throat, please, quote it and I'll be happy to clarify for you.
Perhaps I could respectfully make a couple more suggestions for you, they may come in useful for you:
1) Actually read and understand the post before replying
2) Take some more time to consider your response, your second one comes off a little juvenile to be honest.
as you seem to be saying about my posts, you maybe need to re-read your own - but from that i think my two week time on this forum is come to an end
and is there not a smiley face to signify a bit of humour, as i felt you went in on me a little tough - you know jumping down my throat - being a bit aggressive with your replies - you might say you are strong in your opinion - i don't know we are at the end of keyboards and cannot hear tone, see facial and body language/expressions etc
jump down sb's throat. informal. to react angrily to something that someone says or does: I made the mildest of criticisms and he jumped down my throat.
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as you seem to be saying about my posts, you maybe need to re-read your own - but from that i think my two week time on this forum is come to an end
and is there not a smiley face to signify a bit of humour, as i felt you went in on me a little tough - you know jumping down my throat - being a bit aggressive with your replies - you might say you are strong in your opinion - i don't know we are at the end of keyboards and cannot hear tone, see facial and body language/expressions etc
jump down sb's throat. informal. to react angrily to something that someone says or does: I made the mildest of criticisms and he jumped down my throat.
There was no aggression or anger in any of my posts, hence me saying the definition of jumping down someone's throat doesn't apply. They remained civil and respectful. As you said, tone doesn't come across on a computer, and perhaps that is where my respectful tone has been misinterpreted.
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Sorry to spoil the fun! Best thing to do here is to lock this bad boy up!!