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Companies => Off-the-shelf companies => Gunn & Moore => Topic started by: hit4six on November 28, 2022, 11:17:12 AM

Title: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: hit4six on November 28, 2022, 11:17:12 AM
So, after picking up 2 x Kryos bats (plus a third off eBay over the weekend) and a Brava, it felt silly not to complete the 2023 set and try and pick up a Hypa.

With Black Friday weekend looming, I managed to find a Hypa Signature on Talent Cricket for £130 and decided to take the plunge. Another fantastic experience with an online retailer and the bat arrived exactly as I requested.

First impressions of the bat are nothing but positive.

The handles on the 2023 range seem to be a lot more generous than previous years. The handle on this Hypa is lovely and thick and it feels absolutely brilliant in the hands. There is a good quality black grip applied which feels like it will offer good control with gloves on but will not cause devastation to the palms like the HEX grips do.

From a labelling perspective, I was a little unsure about the Hypa stickers when they first launched, but on a personal note, I have to say they look a lot better in person. The colour is vibrant enough for those who want a bit of flare, but still subtle enough to scream elegance.

The profile is one any batsman would appreciate. A full L555 blade, absolutely zero concaving and a mid to low middle (the lowest middle compared to the other 2023 bats).

The Signature range of GM bats seem ridiculously good value for money and this one is no exception. It has 8/9 straight grains, the odd blemish and a hint of heartwood, but its a lovely looking stick. I have had a little tap up with an old ball and it already pings really nicely, so for the price, I am really impressed.

Specs:

Weight: 2lb 9.2oz
Edge Size: 33mm
Shoulder Size: 12mm
Toe Size: 24mm

I managed to get out and enjoy some winter sunshine in the garden today, so a slightly improved backdrop for today's images (although, I am not convinced my photography skills do this bat any justice).

Enjoy!

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Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: jamesisapayne on November 28, 2022, 12:10:27 PM
Ooooh that does look rather lovely 😊
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Yorkershire on November 28, 2022, 12:47:05 PM
Nice tempting me to get a Brava Signature...
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: JTtaylor145 on November 28, 2022, 12:50:35 PM
Nice tempting me to get a Brava Signature...
@Yorkershire I'm pretty sure the Brava is not available in the Signature grade. Sorry to disappoint.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Bungle on November 28, 2022, 02:14:54 PM
That's a shame, Brava is probably my favourite shape & there are excellent deals to be had with the Signature grade.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Kai on November 29, 2022, 09:00:54 AM
Amazing value in the signature grade. Nice bats.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: jonny77 on November 29, 2022, 09:42:25 AM
33mm edge? You'll never get it off the square! 😉 Nice looking stick mate.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Thamesvalley on November 29, 2022, 10:19:19 AM
Certainly smaller than it should be circa 37mm
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: jonny77 on November 29, 2022, 10:41:45 AM
I was joking mate 😆 Does it state somewhere online it should have a min 37mm edge?
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Thamesvalley on November 29, 2022, 11:02:06 AM
That’s the guidance yes
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: jonny77 on November 29, 2022, 11:37:11 AM
Can only see 'substantial edge size' listed on GMs site?
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Thamesvalley on November 29, 2022, 11:47:13 AM
Every year they do a chart which goes to retailers

It shows sweet spot size , middle and also edge and spine height
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Thamesvalley on November 29, 2022, 11:47:54 AM
It may not specifically go to retailers but I know it exists every year and this year they did one too

It’s very handy
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on November 29, 2022, 01:16:47 PM
It may not specifically go to retailers but I know it exists every year and this year they did one too

It’s very handy
https://www.playwiththebest.com/cricket/how-to-choose-your-cricket-bat/bat-spectrum.html (https://www.playwiththebest.com/cricket/how-to-choose-your-cricket-bat/bat-spectrum.html)
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: jonny77 on November 29, 2022, 01:21:06 PM
So it's not guidance as in expected edge size, it's the max edge size. Clears that up then.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Thamesvalley on November 29, 2022, 01:30:43 PM
I don’t think they would put expected edge size as that would create an issue in itself

However it was me buying I would be looking for those specs some will of course be smaller as it’s inevitable
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Bungle on November 29, 2022, 02:07:05 PM
I love that chart, gives (roughly) all the information you would need to separate the profile types in a simplified form. Wish other big brands did something similar to this.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: jonny77 on November 29, 2022, 02:17:33 PM
I don’t think they would put expected edge size as that would create an issue in itself

However it was me buying I would be looking for those specs some will of course be smaller as it’s inevitable

Not sure what the issue is then if you'll accept edge size will be inevitably be smaller on some?

The fact we're now measuring everything to within a mm all over the bat brings so many issues and unrealistic expectations. Getting clefts to be full bats with 37mm (and still measure what people believe is needed through the toe, splice, shoulders, handle etc) would result in most being 2lbs 12oz +. If people valued quality of willow, quality of handles etc over 4mm on the edge size, the better bats we'd see.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: edge on November 29, 2022, 02:20:55 PM
So it's not guidance as in expected edge size, it's the max edge size. Clears that up then.
It's GM, so it will be the actual edge size - all of their bats of a given shape are near identical and the weight just varies with density.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Thamesvalley on November 29, 2022, 02:56:03 PM
Ya should be edge that’s what makes them very decent and great prices ;)
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: golders on November 29, 2022, 03:23:30 PM
Not sure what the issue is then if you'll accept edge size will be inevitably be smaller on some?

The fact we're now measuring everything to within a mm all over the bat brings so many issues and unrealistic expectations. Getting clefts to be full bats with 37mm (and still measure what people believe is needed through the toe, splice, shoulders, handle etc) would result in most being 2lbs 12oz +. If people valued quality of willow, quality of handles etc over 4mm on the edge size, the better bats we'd see.

If only you could spawn that unicorn 2’8/9 gauge filler every single time mate. Must be tougher for batmakers now what with the gauge-everyone wants one with max specs at light weights!
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Chad on November 29, 2022, 05:02:03 PM
It's GM, so it will be the actual edge size - all of their bats of a given shape are near identical and the weight just varies with density.


I mean it does say that it's the Max edge and Max spine - if I were to hazard a guess, they'd have a setting to either make the cutting deeper, or move the bed higher to make bats at the same profile, but smaller as you'd be removing more wood. I would be guessing that a 62mm spine and 39mm edge Brava would be the result of the max settings. Have to remember that clefts can come up smaller or even have chunks missing from them at times too, so that's something to factor in, alongside the fact that they do hand finish, so will always be discrepancies.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: edge on November 30, 2022, 06:51:45 AM

I mean it does say that it's the Max edge and Max spine - if I were to hazard a guess, they'd have a setting to either make the cutting deeper, or move the bed higher to make bats at the same profile, but smaller as you'd be removing more wood. I would be guessing that a 62mm spine and 39mm edge Brava would be the result of the max settings. Have to remember that clefts can come up smaller or even have chunks missing from them at times too, so that's something to factor in, alongside the fact that they do hand finish, so will always be discrepancies.
Max as in peak is how I read it - note they quote volume as a given. GM have also publicly said that's how they do it before iirc.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Chad on December 01, 2022, 06:13:07 PM
Max as in peak is how I read it - note they quote volume as a given. GM have also publicly said that's how they do it before iirc.


Ah, that's a good point - I stand corrected in that case. The Hypa I've got here has a 35mm edge and 58mm spine, so some lost from the peaks. The Brava here has 39mm edge and 61mm spine. Thing is, if it would have all been sanded off, 2-3mm is still a fair chunk to sand off the bat overall.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Thamesvalley on December 12, 2022, 08:57:44 PM
Has any one that bought tested their Hypa and brava in nets

Any reviews comments ?
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Rez on December 12, 2022, 10:21:54 PM
Love a signature  :)
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Jaffa on December 12, 2022, 11:06:19 PM

Ah, that's a good point - I stand corrected in that case. The Hypa I've got here has a 35mm edge and 58mm spine, so some lost from the peaks. The Brava here has 39mm edge and 61mm spine. Thing is, if it would have all been sanded off, 2-3mm is still a fair chunk to sand off the bat overall.

Warning. Possible can of worms here...

Did I miss anyone mentioning that the Brava has a flatter face to make the edges look bigger? What will make the clear the rope more often? A few extra mm or the right profile to suit your style?

Did anyone ever calculate what helps you hit the ball further, weight or volume? If it was pure volume then the scoop bats would have never of worked.

Plus are those extra mm worth it when you realise those squarer edges make it more prone to damage?

For what it's worth, I do like the Hypa as the profile suits my style. If I were to go to shop to pick one out, maybe I'll be swayed by big edges but I hope I'd pick one based on pickup/rebound plus looks, maybe even in that order.
Title: Re: Gunn & Moore Hypa
Post by: Thamesvalley on December 12, 2022, 11:28:26 PM
Very interesting but not sure the flat face is such a big thing

A friend of mine moved to the midlands last year , one of the biggest brands there and very established in huge amount of clubs use flat faces

Not sure why but they do . The edges are not huge, I guess large edges and flat faces are prone to more damage but I have a Keeley flat face from a few years ago and it’s totally fine and it’s scored a lot of runs