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General Cricket => Latest Matches => Topic started by: Buzz on November 22, 2024, 09:48:57 AM
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Batting looks quite tough in Perth today.
Also India have picked a very odd team
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It’s gonna be a bowlers series…
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Decks in aus been poorer recently, or do rumours of a change to the Kook ball have some truth in them?
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Is this showing on any channel?
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TNT showing it. BBC website has some video highlights on its live blog.
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Thanks - TNT seem to have quite a bit of the cricket to be fair!
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Think they had a deal with the ACB, as the Ashes over there were on BT (TNT), but also then had the Windies stuff recently too. More reason not to pay Sky fortunes anymore!
Anyone see the KL dismissal? Odd that one.
Also, if anyone knows of any supermarkets recruiting? Steve Smith maybe looking for shelf stacking work 😆
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Someone has definitely pressed the minefield to road button.
Also the Indians have batted brilliantly.
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Jaiswal telling Starc the balls coming out slow is class 😂
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Jaiswal telling Starc the balls coming out slow is class 😂
It followed Stac telling one of the Indian bowlers he was slower than him.
Good banter.
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It followed Stac telling one of the Indian bowlers he was slower than him.
Good banter.
Yep, saw that bit.Its also somewhat true. He’s also not as quick as he was, hair not as thick as it was , mid thirties and as close to the end of his career as Jaiswal is to the beginning.
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Absolute demolition job by the Indians after the respective first innings lotteries.
The absolutely magnificent Jaiswal with another big hundred - 4 hundred, all over 150. The kid makes you pay that’s for sure.
The old war horse Kohli rediscovers himself, 30th test hundred.
Bumrah doing Bumrah things again in the Aussie second innings.
Just as well Sharma and Gill were unavailable this match.
But seriously opening is a specialist position, McSweeney isn’t the fix.
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Absolute demolition job by the Indians after the respective first innings lotteries.
The absolutely magnificent Jaiswal with another big hundred - 4 hundred, all over 150. The kid makes you pay that’s for sure.
The old war horse Kohli rediscovers himself, 30th test hundred.
Bumrah doing Bumrah things again in the Aussie second innings.
Just as well Sharma and Gill were unavailable this match.
But seriously opening is a specialist position, McSweeney isn’t the fix.
Don’t you mean:
Hopeless overrated Aussie frauds dominated on their own patch by an inexperienced Indian side, whilst their 2 best home-track bully batsmen cowardly hide behind a nightwatchman?
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Don’t you mean:
Hopeless overrated Aussie frauds dominated on their own patch by an inexperienced Indian side, whilst their 2 best home-track bully batsmen cowardly hide behind a nightwatchman?
Best internet comment of the day. Australia look in a bad place with Marnus and smith bang out of form ( and have been for some time) No replacement at all for Warner, Carey hasn’t delivered since coming into the test side and an aging bowling line up. India have torn them to shreds and I can see this being the case all series
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India complete an absolute annihilation job in Perth winning by a massive 295 runs…
Aussies came third in a two horse race…
Dilemmas ahead of the day/night Test in Adelaide…
I would pan Starc but his record in D/N tests at Adelaide is extraordinary (39 wickets @ 16).
But most definitely last chance saloon for Starc.
The batting is terrible, as such Marnus should be axed, but McDonald won’t dare do it…
There are opportunities to press the Indian bowlers, the two debutants are a considerable step down on Bumrah and Siraj. But the top order getting wrecked over and over doesn’t help…
Lastly the pitch: if it’s spicy the threat of Bumrah is very high, best fast bowler in the world no argument. But a flat pitch could see the likes of Jaiswal, Pant etc feast on the Aussies…
Decisions…decisions…
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Are there any decent Australian players under 30?
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Are there any decent Australian players under 30?
Konstas looks promising if a bit raw, McSweeney when he's not batting hopelessly out of position looks pretty handy, Green is quality, Ollie Davies seems to be getting a lot of hype and translating the white ball ability to red ball, Aaron Hardie looks like a pretty decent all-rounder in the making. There's a few 😂
Big issue IMO is that the way they've managed the transition a lot of these guys are going to end up establishing themselves in the Aussie national sides at the same kind of time which is going to be difficult without the benefit of loads of experienced heads around them.
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A trophy named after Allan Border and Sunil Gavaskar.
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Great time to play the Aussies with a lot of them coming to the end.
Bumrah staying fit is the key for India.
If we can get Wood/Jofra over there next year we might have a chance.
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Great time to play the Aussies with a lot of them coming to the end.
Bumrah staying fit is the key for India.
If we can get Wood/Jofra over there next year we might have a chance.
I think we have a good chance anyway even without those two express bowlers. There batting currently is flakey and they seem to be having the same issues at the top of the order we had for a while with no real idea of who to partner with Kwaja. Smith and Marnus look well out of form but class is permanent until it’s not ( just look at Kholi although it was a typical Ollie Pope hundred this time in that he hasn’t done it when it matters for a while now) Head still looks formidable and he has caused England damage in the past and 2nd innings batted well here.
Don’t agree with the Aussie comment about Starc being last chance saloon at all but that is an ageing bowling line up and the reserves seldom seem to come close to tying there laces.
If Bumrah stays fit I don’t see Aussies having much chance on current form they look like they will be 20-3 quite often just like England for many years before Stokes and Baz M
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Australia only have two tests against Sri Lanka after this series before the start of the Ashes next winter which doesn't leave at of time to bed in new players to what looks a very old side. Will be a big call whether to give this squad another 14 months of test cricket or risk changing the side with little time to settle.
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In home conditions (in Smith’s case all conditions) the batting was largely dependent on Smith, Marnus and Warner. And they did the heavy lifting.
Here some stats to chew on.
Smith in his last 43 innings at home as scored 3 hundreds (more ducks in fact 4) (14.33 per innings). Prior to this sustained period of lack of centuries, Smith had scored 13 hundreds in 50 innings (3.84 per innings.
Marnus in his first 31 innings at home had 9 hundreds (3.44 per innings). He’s now gone 18 innings without a century at home.
Warner in his first 75 innings at home scored 18 hundreds (4.16 per innings). His final 26 innings yielded 2 hundreds.
With such a drop off from the three best players in the side (in Smith’s case, the best player of his generation) is it any surprise how the batting is struggling now?
This likes of Khawaja and Head are fine players, but are not as prolific century scorers usually averaging around 9-10 innings per century, so they can’t fill the void.
As for Marsh, Green and Carey - not even worth mentioning.
That’s the crux of this issue and there’s no one Shield cricket that is going to score Test centuries at an average of 1 every 5-6 innings…
Bancroft, Renshaw and Harris are often citied, they average roughly 10 innings per century at domestic level.
The cupboard is empty…
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Let's hope Coles has plenty of jobs available 👀
If it's any consolation, I reckon we're in for a tough time in NZ and would still make you firm favourites for the Ashes as things stand.
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Let's hope Coles has plenty of jobs available 👀
Maybe they’ll go to the retirement home instead 🤣
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Mitchell Marsh is apparently broken again or semi broken and probably won’t bowl in the second Test.
Beau Webster has been added to the squad.
Josh Hazlewood is gone in the side and will not play in Adelaide. Big loss and he helped bowl the Indians out for 36 in the same fixture 4 years ago.
Scott Boland likely to step in. At least he’s Victorian...
Uncapped pair Sean Abbott and Brendan Doggett also added to squad.
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These read like an msn or yahoo news summary
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These read like an msn or yahoo news summary
Because I used line breaks? 🤨
How else you supposed to write it?
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Nice 107 for Sam Konstas today. That heaps some pressure on the under performing Aussie pensioners.
In the meantime, the new Indian batting line up looks half decent...
Jaiswal
KL Rahul
Gill
Kohli
Rohit
Pant
Whoever cones next...
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Not a great endorsement if Australia's talent pipeline when two uncapped bowlers in their 30s are called up
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After Perth, it’s been all Australia. Absolutely annihilated India in the day/night Test in Adelaide. Start took a 6fer with his favourite pink ball. Travis Head continued personal mission against India with another match winning century.
The third Test in Brisbane was heavily effected by rain but Australia again dominated. Steven Smith, finally, registered his 33rd Test century. Travis Head hammered yet another century against the Indians. Bumrah took a 6fer. But India’s batting is pathetic aside from KL Rahul.
Australia’s hopes were crushed after Bumrah and Deep added 40 odd to save the follow on. Australia tried to manufacture a result but rain was the victory.
Josh Hazlewood once again got injured...and will miss the remainder of the series.
R Ashwin announced his retirement with immediate effect. Marvellous career.
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Aus also carrying a pile opf passengers at the moment, an allrounder that can't bowl, an opener that can't open and a couple of batters who seem to have forgotten how to bat.
India also have batting issues but the most pressing is probably to find a back up option for Bumrah better than what they've fielded so far. Not sure Reddy KUmar's batting is doing enough to cover for his bowling.
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As for Bumrah, he’s taken 21 wickets at 11 thus far. And in his 10 Tests in Australia, 53 wickets at 17.
Decent…
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After Perth, it’s been all Australia. Absolutely annihilated India in the day/night Test in Adelaide. Start took a 6fer with his favourite pink ball. Travis Head continued personal mission against India with another match winning century.
The third Test in Brisbane was heavily effected by rain but Australia again dominated. Steven Smith, finally, registered his 33rd Test century. Travis Head hammered yet another century against the Indians. Bumrah took a 6fer. But India’s batting is pathetic aside from KL Rahul.
Australia’s hopes were crushed after Bumrah and Deep added 40 odd to save the follow on. Australia tried to manufacture a result but rain was the victory.
Josh Hazlewood once again got injured...and will miss the remainder of the series.
R Ashwin announced his retirement with immediate effect. Marvellous career.
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Can you imagine the embarrassment of rain saving you from losing a series?! Definitely not something you boys have ever benefitted from eh?
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Can you imagine the embarrassment of rain saving you from losing a series?! Definitely not something you boys have ever benefitted from eh?
Did it happen? Or did the Poms bottle the first test? 🤔
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First two I think you'll find. But after that it was all England and only the rain saved the Aussies 😉
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First two I think you'll find. But after that it was all England and only the rain saved the Aussies 😉
Whatever gets you to sleep at night!
Just the 2553 days since the Poms last held them…
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Whatever gets you to sleep at night!
Just the 2553 days since the Poms last held them…
And only 285 I til we have them again
Just remember who has won an away ashes most recently!
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Whatever gets you to sleep at night!
Just the 2553 days since the Poms last held them…
I sleep just fine mate. If I ever do struggle to drop off tho, I just read through your posts and I'm out like a light! 😉
Only joking mate, all good fun.
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So Nathan McSweeney has been dropped and Sam Konstas will debut at the MCG.
Seems somewhat ridiculous that Khawaja dodged a bullet over McSweeney but I guess it is what it it…
Also if the ‘G’ is more docile than the previous three surfaces, McSweeney will have the right to feel aggravated.
Sean Abbott, Jhye Richardson and Beau Webster also into the squad again.
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Why is it rediculous that sweeney dropped over khawaja ,,?
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Why is it rediculous that sweeney dropped over khawaja ,,?
Because Khawaja is 38 and will not make the Ashes - regardless of the hopium of the Australian selectors.
Secondly Khawaja has been worse than McSweeney.
Khawaja averages 12, McSweeney 14.
Not much to pick between but the guy that’s 25 and batting out of position should be given a longer run rather than a fading veteran.
And I’m a big Khawaja fan…
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Because Khawaja is 38 and will not make the Ashes - regardless of the hopium of the Australian selectors.
Secondly Khawaja has been worse than McSweeney.
Khawaja averages 12, McSweeney 14.
Not much to pick between but the guy that’s 25 and batting out of position should be given a longer run rather than a fading veteran.
And I’m a big Khawaja fan…
Is that a flying pig I'm seeing or have you just posted something I agree with 😂
Really harsh on McSweeney and very lenient treatment for Khawaja.
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So Nathan McSweeney has been dropped and Sam Konstas will debut at the MCG.
Seems somewhat ridiculous that Khawaja dodged a bullet over McSweeney but I guess it is what it it…
Also if the ‘G’ is more docile than the previous three surfaces, McSweeney will have the right to feel aggravated.
Sean Abbott, Jhye Richardson and Beau Webster also into the squad again.
Finding myself agreeing with this. Uzzie seems to be getting a free pass.
Likely that marsh will be dropped for Webster. Carey will bat at 6.
It is going to be really hot so the extra bowler will be needed.
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I can't see the thinking behind dropping the only player in the side under the age of 30 when he is 3 games into his test career.
I wouldn't judge someone's potential to play at this level based on opening the batting against Bumrah in this series. Reeks of the sort of selection methods England employed in the 1990s
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I can't see the thinking behind dropping the only player in the side under the age of 30 when he is 3 games into his test career.
I wouldn't judge someone's potential to play at this level based on opening the batting against Bumrah in this series. Reeks of the sort of selection methods England employed in the 1990s
So I projected Khawaja wouldn’t make the Ashes, so it’s even more likely (if Australia qualifies) Khawaja will not even make the WTC final…
In that case McSweeney or Bancroft or whomever comes in cold…
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Khawaja being the contender for best test player of 2022 and awarded best test player of 2023
Aussies would be stupid to drop him and put two new openers in
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Khawaja being the contender for best test player of 2022 and awarded best test player of 2023
Aussies would be stupid to drop him and put two new openers in
We are almost in 2025, what happened in 2022/23 is meaningless now.
Look at his record in 2024…
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I have never seen Nathan McSweeney bat. It seems right that I don't express an opinion on his abilities.
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Far too much agreement going on here.
😂
Boxing day test will be fun.
Opening the batting against Bumrah is as hard a challenge as pretty much anything in the history of the game. (not counting playing on a sticky wicket)
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Far too much agreement going on here.
Oh no there isn't (welcome to panto season).
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Also runs in the big bash for McSweany today. I know it is a different format, but there are two types of player after they get drops. The one who fades away and the one who pushes on and earns that go again. I think McSweany will play for Aus again soon.
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Enjoying this thread. Great series with a bit of spice too.
But please can someone amend the title… it’s hurting my eyes.
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Sorry it seems spelling is beyond me
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Sorry it seems spelling is beyond me
Merry Xmas Buzz. That’s a 50% improvement!!!
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A trophy named after Allan Border and Sunil Gavaskar.
*coughs*
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What a day of cricket … khawaja back in runs and the new pick what confidence ..
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Agreed, that was great to see, some incredible shots from
Konstas- my favourite being that quid down to third man from the Bumrah full ball. Fearless youth might invigorate and renew the oldies
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Impressive debut so far for Konstas but a glass half full day in all honesty for Australia. Most docile pitch of the series so far, yet no one got a century...
Still hope Smith can drag the total up to 400-450.
Siraj seems like an a**hole and Kohli being his usual idiotic self.
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The first 3 decks were apprently going to be the toughest …
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Have loved hearing the Aussies dismiss bazball or that style for the last 18 months and then Konstas comes along and plays that way on debut lol. Rattled them we have them rattled already lol
In all seriousness he played well and will no doubt be disappointed to get out missing a straight forward defence shot. Feel for the other lad but at least this one is interesting to watch
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Test century number 34 for the Grandmaster Steven Smith - 11th against India, the most against said opposition.
Smith equal’s Gavaskar, Lara, Younis and Mahela.
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Once again India found away to fight back from the death again.
Nitish Reddy with a chance less maiden century and Washington Sundar (just like 4 years ago) dig India out of a massive hole.
Australia still lead by 116, India has 1 wicket left.
2 days remaining this one could go either way yet.
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Also rain in the air.
Will be an interesting second innings for Aus.
Assuming they have about a 100 run lead on first innings, Aus will want a 320 lead... Although I think 250 will be too much for a chase.
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Anyone notice Sam Konstas using Small Adult size bat? He is 173 tall, very rare to see someone using Small Adult still categorically Junior size isn’t it?
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Bumrah 200 sticks at under 20. Quite ridiculous.
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Mitch Marsh’s test career all but over…
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Anyone notice Sam Konstas using Small Adult size bat? He is 173 tall, very rare to see someone using Small Adult still categorically Junior size isn’t it?
How did you work out he's using that size?
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Anyone notice Sam Konstas using Small Adult size bat? He is 173 tall, very rare to see someone using Small Adult still categorically Junior size isn’t it?
Is it full width? ;)
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A quite marvellous day’s cricket.
Australia lead by 333 with 1 wicket left.
India could’ve been chasing 250ish but poor chap Jaiswal had a shocker in the field shelling 3 somewhat regulation chances.
Marnus, Cummins, Lyon and Boland probably ensuring that it’s either an Australia win or a draw.
As for Bumrah 29 wickets at 12.75, could’ve had Lyon but he bowled a no ball. He’s been a level or two above everyone else.
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In addition the first finalist for the WTC has been confirmed as South Africa.
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Great win by Aus!
with only minimal contributions in this match by Head with the bat and Mitch Marsh both with bat and ball. I do like watching Scotty Boland perform at his "home" - an old school pacer to contrast with the unique Bumrah.
Kinda karma for that shoulder action on D1 :D
Good opportunity for Aus to go onto win the Border-Gavaskar trophy outright.
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India seem to be blaming everything but themselves for their loss.
https://x.com/foxcricket/status/1873876099303948780?s=46&t=tdRREaW2wyovJ7u1L41N1g
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In the 2nd innings, India made lots of mistakes in the field and then batting was unfocused as well.
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As a neutral with no particular interest in the outcome, I have very much enjoyed this series but India have shown themselves up with their reaction to losing the Melbourne test.
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apparently. rohit has opted out of the scg test?
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I have seen that too.
Bumrah to captain.
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So now we have a euphemism for being dropped 😂 the management of Indian cricket can be absolutely embarrassing sometimes.
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Konstas trying to waste time and the cricketing gods beautifully came back to bite him (well actually Khawaja)
Theres a name for people like him where I'm from. It starts with Gob and ends with Sh**e
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Feels like I have been rested a lot recently. 😂😂😂
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What a day. With the potential for Bumrah missing in the final innings, this is set for quite a series finish.
PS I should add, I hope he isn't missing. It would feel like fans were robbed of the full battle without India's No 1.
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Well done Australia!
Great win - shame Bumrah was out of action today, but not a bad debut match for Webster - one half century, not out in the 2nd innings, hitting the winning runs to regain the trophy, a wicket and a couple of catches. Also, his Test batting average only a smidge under the Don's av :D. I'd say it's been a pretty good three days for him, and well deserved after stellar performances last few Aus seasons in 1st class cricket.
Aus now hold all bilateral trophies, test championship and world cup - pretty good going, and well done Pat Cummins for such great achievements following the prior controversies (as hilariously highlighted by Kohli in the field today!!! :D). However, room for improvement - T20 cup and trying to retain the test championship and also 'trying' to outright win the Ashes trophy next season! :D
Scott Boland - well deserved MOTM award with 10 wickets even if it was a pretty helpful wicket for bowlers.
Last time kohli will be seen batting in test matches in Australia? Prob...
Steve Smith stuck on 9999 test runs today!!!! No-one could believe it!
It's going to be a big ask of Eng next Winter - interesting how these pitches have gone, esp the SCG one - how much a specialist spinner will play a role in the Ashes (on both sides prob?) will be interesting esp the relative lack of overs needed from Lyon (and Ashwin, Jadeja, Sundar)
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The big question for Australia is what comes next - they have a very mature side, and you could reasonably argue that Head, Cummins and Lyon are the only ones still at their peak, rather than teetering on the downslope. Its 10 months to the Ashes...how many will make it that far?
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Looking through the Aussie pensioners/others
Konstas... Very green. Serious talent.
Uzzie... 36 tour to SL might finish him.
Marnus... Who knows, not scored a ton in ages
Smith... All time great slowly on the way out.
Head. 31,body of a 40 ywar old.
Webster... Better than marsh, but still 31.
Carey... 30 something but in form.
Cummins - will be the difference
Starc must be close to the end.
Hazelwood pretty much at the end, loads of injuries
Boland mid 30s! But looks dependable.
Lyon... Doing his thing. Will be interesting to see how he goes in SL.
Who know what the Aussie batting bench strength is like.
It will be the pensioners against the golfers next winter.
What will be really interesting is who will tour England from India in the summer.
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I think there are significant concerns about the next generation - they are viewed with hope verging on blind optimism rather than expectation at this stage, hence Konstas skipping through the ranks so quickly (I agree he has something, but I think he will take a while to settle into consistency in Test cricket with than technique). Its saying something that Webster - who, lets not forget, did due south of nothing playing in the second division of the championship for Gloucestershire - has been welcomed with open arms!
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Totally agree.
Let's also not forget that England have beaten Australia in Australia only once in nearly 40 years.
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Twice in 37.
To put that in its proper context though, Australia have won in England three times in that period.
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It will be the pensioners against the golfers next winter.
:D :D :D
Boards should make it mandatory for players to play Test cricket early in their career before they transition to white ball and franchise (big money) cricket.
Test -> White ball -> (close to retirement) franchise cricket.
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:D :D :D
Boards should make it mandatory for players to play Test cricket early in their career before they transition to white ball and franchise (big money) cricket.
Test -> White ball -> (close to retirement) franchise cricket.
I do agree to this! The franchise cricket has changed everything :(. Now players do not focus on playing for nation rather they choose money by playing t20 leagues. Test and ODI format are losing its interest which is alarming for the sport. :(