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Title: Mongoose
Post by: espocrespo on October 20, 2010, 04:21:37 PM
Mongooses gear for 2011 is amazing, defiantly gonna be buying there softs
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on October 20, 2010, 05:32:38 PM
View it all here:

http://www.facebook.com/pages/Mongoose-Cricket/

Keen to hear all views...
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on October 20, 2010, 05:33:35 PM
page not found it says :( looks good though
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Talisman on October 20, 2010, 05:33:55 PM
Link not working for me Tom.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: espocrespo on October 20, 2010, 05:34:52 PM
i think they look class.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on October 20, 2010, 05:35:40 PM
try that http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=447865096327&set=a.447864676327.243723.247737146327&pid=5399338&id=247737146327
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on October 20, 2010, 05:36:05 PM
Premium softs are very nice!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: mattw on October 20, 2010, 06:02:02 PM
All very nice, seriously looking into getting some top of the range Gloves.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: revboy on October 20, 2010, 06:02:42 PM
Very nice softs
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: maxy1 on October 20, 2010, 06:07:59 PM
think the premium pads look really nice , and the gloves that are a bit plainer , all the bats looking good!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Watsontotty on October 20, 2010, 07:37:51 PM
Too much colour in the gloves and pads for me however that's just an initial feeling from the pics, would need to see them in the flesh to say exactly what i feel. I do like plain softs and sausage style is my favorite glove which i don't think you offer which is possibly missing a trick ?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: essexarsenal on October 20, 2010, 07:43:00 PM
pads are nice but dont like the gloves too much
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: 100 not out on October 20, 2010, 09:54:27 PM
Tom

have the mmi3's always had a bow in the them.

what colour stikering would be put on a custom mmi3  . . .if sent in on the amnesty.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on October 21, 2010, 08:33:27 AM
gloves are clever how they have integrated the 3 colours schemes from all the stickers into them as well as the pads so that they tie in with each bat in some shape or form....broadens the market and people having matching kit ;)

Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: bat repairs on October 21, 2010, 08:43:56 AM
impressive range all round, have to say the new COR3 bats are top quality.

try them before you buy anything else this year, they may not be as traditional as other bats but you'll get over this when you see how they perform.

Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: tommy2tink on October 21, 2010, 09:06:46 AM
The Premium gloves look much nicer then the Series and the Super Premium. I like the colour on the wristband a lot.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: ProWannabe88 on October 21, 2010, 09:35:38 AM
Those softs are lush. Just couldn't justify paying £65 and £95 for some gloves and pads when you can easily get products of similar/identical protection and quality for less money.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: bat repairs on October 21, 2010, 09:59:05 AM
note RRP and retailers price are very different, search the products out and you'll find some at the price you want to pay.

the top level glove in particular is very good, well worth the money.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: peplow on October 21, 2010, 01:56:22 PM
£65 rrp isnt too high, most gm/kook top end are rrp £80 arent they?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on October 21, 2010, 01:59:26 PM
New GM Original L.Es are £69 I think.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: peplow on October 21, 2010, 02:00:21 PM
rrp or for sale?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on October 21, 2010, 02:01:22 PM
For sale I think. I was looking at some for a friend.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: bat repairs on October 21, 2010, 02:03:51 PM
last years LE's were £70 RRP you'll get a better price than that if you scour the retailers websites.

£55 maybe better...
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on October 21, 2010, 02:11:08 PM
Talent cricket have the for £63 atm
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Watsontotty on October 28, 2010, 07:17:40 PM
Tom when will the mongoose website be updated or am i not looking at the right one ?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on October 28, 2010, 07:26:30 PM
Redesigning it at the moment, was there anything specific you wanted to see that perhaps I could help with?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Watsontotty on October 28, 2010, 07:38:55 PM
Just wanted to see the new designs in terms of stickers and grips on the cor3 2011 version, also will there be a bag and clothing for both practice/leisure and also whites etc. I have seen the odd post around on the forum but just wondered what else 2011 had in store for you and any further developments.

This isn't a leading question or anything, just simply interested. 
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 04, 2010, 06:24:31 PM
New bat shapes and sticker designs are on a couple of sites now - www.talentcricket.co.uk is a good 'un

There will be bags for this season, with a further developments on those and clothing next season.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: alexrickyponting on November 04, 2010, 06:33:45 PM
tom, are you planning on doing any different types of grip? as i understand the mongoose ones are longer so standard length octopus etc will not fit?
just interested as personally i do not like the standard mongoose grips
thsnks
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 04, 2010, 06:36:38 PM
We're not at this stage but it may be worth looking into. The CoR3 takes a standard grip. As a workaround the MMi3 you can use 1 1/2 grips on to grip the full length of the bat.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: alexrickyponting on November 04, 2010, 06:39:51 PM
thanks tom, also if this makes any sense;
on a mongoose(either model) is the handle length that would take the bat to an overall length of standard blade short handle still called short handle even though the handle is longer? just something thats been bugging me recently aha
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Watsontotty on November 04, 2010, 08:24:56 PM
New bat shapes and sticker designs are on a couple of sites now - www.talentcricket.co.uk is a good 'un

There will be bags for this season, with a further developments on those and clothing next season.



Any idea when the bags will be available and are they wheelie type ?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: nicks on November 05, 2010, 07:36:41 PM
New (old) additions to the family. Both have their imperfections, but don't we all.  :D
(http://imgur.com/eD5Tdl.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/QFKwol.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/YJNI4l.jpg)
(http://imgur.com/A67qnl.jpg)
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 05, 2010, 08:05:37 PM
they both look quality sticks! must of set you back a fair bit!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: kenbriooo on November 05, 2010, 08:14:46 PM
Would so love an mmi, tempted to make my team all chip in to buy one to put it in the club bag
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: nicks on November 05, 2010, 08:21:32 PM
they both look quality sticks! must of set you back a fair bit!

So much so that they've been tucked away in the loft. Hopefully come April they'l have aged a bit and the 'bank manager' won't notice.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Howzat on November 05, 2010, 08:26:44 PM
Haha quality!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: maxy1 on November 05, 2010, 08:33:02 PM
that cor3 looks really similar to my old one with the sloping heartwood, i wonder if they were from the same tree  :D

pics of mine are there - http://custombats.co.uk/cbforum/index.php?topic=7198.msg103376#msg103376

this one has a few more grains tho 
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: nicks on November 05, 2010, 08:36:42 PM
Pro-direct have them on sale, although the prices for the 2011 models seem to have dropped a bit so not a massive saving.

http://www.prodirectcricket.com/lists/bats-over-100.aspx?p=1
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: maxy1 on November 05, 2010, 08:41:29 PM
119 for a custom seems a good deal , i paid 100 for a series one with £45 off , however i swiftly got rid of it
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on November 06, 2010, 12:04:04 AM
Tom can I ask how you grade your bats? I take it that it's done on performance.....
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 06, 2010, 12:25:53 AM
No, cosmetics.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on November 06, 2010, 12:39:00 AM
Ok fair enough
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 06, 2010, 12:28:06 PM
(http://www.cricinfo.com/db/PICTURES/CMS/124000/124045.jpg)

Here's Jimmy A in the new gloves, not the best pic mind.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on November 06, 2010, 12:32:55 PM
getting roughed up as a night watchman!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: peplow on November 06, 2010, 10:15:52 PM
what shoes has he got on? new asics?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on November 07, 2010, 12:20:58 AM
Looks like it, only other contender is possibly the new Iridiums but doubt it.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 07, 2010, 12:27:54 AM
He's Asics sponsored so will be one of their new ranges
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: bat repairs on November 10, 2010, 02:56:28 PM
these boots are the 2011 strike rate boots, this issue of aoc has all the key boots in the asics range for next season.

asics should be available in store now.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: espocrespo on November 21, 2010, 01:59:59 PM
Who's this big signing:
http://www.mongoosecricket.com/
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on November 21, 2010, 02:05:55 PM
Marcus Trescothick?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 21, 2010, 02:19:43 PM
http://www.somerset-countysports.com/cms/xinha/plugins/ImageManager/demo_images/XmasFlyerFRONTV7colour_upload.jpg
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on November 21, 2010, 02:24:24 PM
"Have a bowl at Marcus!"

I'd love that lol.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 21, 2010, 02:33:35 PM
I off up there on the 4th.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: alexrickyponting on November 25, 2010, 04:44:31 PM
http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/9226292.stm
good pic of the pads if anyone cares  :)
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 25, 2010, 06:14:44 PM
are they the super premium? They have red insides? Supposed to have purple like the bat
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 25, 2010, 06:15:34 PM
Shot of the day!

http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/107136872/Getty-Images-Sport
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Talisman on November 25, 2010, 07:42:28 PM
Shot of the day!

[url]http://www.gettyimages.co.uk/detail/107136872/Getty-Images-Sport[/url]


Stickers don't cover the splice in the face....
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 25, 2010, 07:45:31 PM
yes, would be better if the splice wasn't so dark!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Talisman on November 25, 2010, 07:49:32 PM
I'm not going to rant but when your USP is not having the splice in the blade it might make sense to make sure your stickers covered up the fact that the Pro's who are paid to endorse the idea don't use it themselves.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Canners on November 25, 2010, 08:19:03 PM
haha...... do any of the mongoose players use one without a splice?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 25, 2010, 08:58:20 PM
Mike, for the hundredth time he uses a super long blade bat made by Hunts County. Therefore a mini splice is on show (clefts don't come long enough). We'll make a bat to this spec for anyone, including yourself.

Canners_- 20 or so pro players.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Howzat on November 25, 2010, 09:05:21 PM
Canners_- 20 or so pro players.
List please, thanks
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Canners on November 25, 2010, 09:06:40 PM
Trescothic?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 25, 2010, 09:17:42 PM
The following:

Floyd Reiffer
Chris Benham
Ryan Wiggins
Adrian Shankar
Jim Allenby
Matthew Hayden (2011 models seen in JW T20)
Gareth Andrew
Stacy Ann King
Deandra Dottin
Kevin Stoute
Tino Best
Daren Powell
Greg Smith
Ant Botha (mini)
Lou Vincent
Jonathan Clare
Malinga Bandara
Laura Marsh
Chamara Kapugedera
Somerset opener (launched Tue)
Dheeraj Jadhav

Various levels of pros and players. Due to the high interest in the brand We have had the odd issue supplying bats in the quantities needed to shops and players and on a couple of occasions it has meant a player either using a stickered Mongoose bat if their bat has broken or the one supplied isn't to spec. But when spotted they're collared and given the right gear ASAP and I appreicate so many eagle eyed forum members trying to spot them.

This season expect to see a lot more of the MMi3 in use.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Talisman on November 25, 2010, 09:23:49 PM
I hope you actually get paid for all the overtime, indoctrination company policy I take it.

I've never heard of him having to use an extra long blade and that would make no difference to the splicing process whatsoever, come on Tom, you used to ridicule those doing this so don't get the hump when you are found out. The pictures of Vaas and Blackwell last season only ever contained spliced bats, and I know you are not running out of bats so fast that you paid Pro's have to go out and buy their own, unless you send them a stash of stickers to use you must be supplying the bats.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Talisman on November 25, 2010, 09:26:38 PM
I've only heard of 11 players on your list, 12 including Trescothick when you put his name on the website, why so few players? Chase has 20 paid Pro's according to ProCricket and they are much smaller than Mongoose.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Wills on November 25, 2010, 09:27:32 PM
any reason why you put "Somerset opener" instead of Tresco?

I do see what Mike is getting at...
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 25, 2010, 09:32:00 PM
Mike, now you're just lying to benefit your argument. When you're making a long blade bat the clefts aren't long enough to get the splice inside the handle. Hence why half of it is.

I'm down at the farm on Monday with our Somerset boy so pop a long and see how we do things rather than relying on incorrect presumptions.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 25, 2010, 09:34:13 PM
You don't need 100's of players to build a brand, how many did Woodworm sponsor?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: FattusCattus on November 25, 2010, 09:37:02 PM
Chase has 20 paid Pro's according to ProCricket and they are much smaller than Mongoose.

What - the Pro's or the brand?

Is there a height restriction to using the brand - is that to do with the splice again?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: jonpinson on November 25, 2010, 09:38:43 PM
Gentlemen, you are both better than this idle bickering. Neither of you is coming out very well from it. Please consider that the good reputations that you have both worked so hard to create on here can be undone very quickly.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: golders on November 25, 2010, 09:41:12 PM


was loving Anderson's sweeping antics until he tried one too many....
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Talisman on November 25, 2010, 09:43:03 PM
Mike, now you're just lying to benefit your argument. When you're making a long blade bat the clefts aren't long enough to get the splice inside the handle. Hence why half of it is.

I'm down at the farm on Monday with our Somerset boy so pop a long and see how we do things rather than relying on incorrect presumptions.

Tomgoose, maybe you need to look at the length of a cleft, how much longer is his bat? And your splice is mini, you can make all the accusations about it but from what I understand from the maker he thinks it's very poor and when he makes bats for players they have full splices as they work better.

I'm the forum KP.... how much lower can my rep go?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 25, 2010, 09:46:01 PM
Ask your batmaker who actually is using his bats. Jimmy sure isn't!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Talisman on November 25, 2010, 09:47:13 PM
So more than one batmaker puts in a full splice... the plot thickens...
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Canners on November 25, 2010, 09:56:20 PM

this is more entertaining than the ashes lol
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Talisman on November 25, 2010, 09:57:52 PM
(http://i255.photobucket.com/albums/hh132/camelotcricketer/BlackwellMongoose.jpg)

Maybe this was due to him losing his bats in the flooding and he had to borrow someone else's bat?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 25, 2010, 10:01:28 PM
was it soon after signing as he still has the puma pads? so could just be a stickered puma until he was sorted out
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 25, 2010, 10:04:27 PM
Let's just say I'm  happy with our quality and brand, so don't feel the need to spread lies or defame others.

That's it from me as clearly not getting anywhere.

Perhaps if you spent as much time answering your PM's as you did trying to get one over me then the forum would be a better place.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Talisman on November 25, 2010, 10:07:08 PM
It was June 11 2010, plenty of time to supply a bat, stickers and gloves made it I see.

Tom, don't run off, we are just debunking some myths, tell me what part is a lie and I'll prove you wrong or remove it, my PM's are surely not a worry to the Mongoose empire? And I'm not putting one over on you unless you really believe all the marketing, poacher turned gamekeeper is only a change of roles, not a mindset surely.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Six Sixes Cricket on November 25, 2010, 10:13:06 PM
You don't need 100's of players to build a brand, how many did Woodworm sponsor?
3? Freddie, KP and Anderson
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 25, 2010, 10:13:46 PM
murali, bravo
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 25, 2010, 10:14:49 PM
also? (http://cache3.asset-cache.net/xc/98667507.jpg?v=1&c=NewsMaker&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921A343B2C87A49D8F53627B98D6F616C7577C35E62D91AC581775AD541202E72F4)
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: hit4six on November 25, 2010, 10:15:46 PM
The following:

Ryan Wiggins

Just to mention, he was our overseas player last season... the best all round cricketer I have ever seen.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Johnny on November 25, 2010, 10:16:42 PM
Brett Lee
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on November 25, 2010, 10:16:46 PM
Not running off, I'm on holiday Mike. If there are any genuine questions then I'll answer on another thread later.

I'm very open and honest about what we do but I'm not going to continue to have to correct the things which you say so certainly, yet have no idea about.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 25, 2010, 10:18:49 PM
BTW, I can't wait to bowl at Tres next weekend, I will probably get tonked around but still!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Talisman on November 25, 2010, 10:19:20 PM
Please come back to this when you are at work then Tom, I'm always happy to be shown the way forward by Mongoose PR.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on November 25, 2010, 11:12:12 PM
BTW, I can't wait to bowl at Tres next weekend, I will probably get tonked around but still!

I'd fancy my chances if I bowled leggies, but then again it probably wouldn't come off.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on November 25, 2010, 11:14:07 PM
Perhaps if you spent as much time answering your PM's as you did trying to get one over me then the forum would be a better place.

Don't want to get too involved but I've never had a problem with sending/receiving pm's with Mike
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Talisman on November 30, 2010, 06:13:04 PM
New article with picture of Trescothick in Mongoose gear. His video is on their website.

http://wisdencricketer.com/blogs/blog/2010/11/30/marcus-trescothickthe-old-alastair-cook-rich-abbott/
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: maxy1 on November 30, 2010, 06:32:37 PM
i dont really get the video ???
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: alexrickyponting on November 30, 2010, 06:37:27 PM
bit insulting to compare him to cook imo, different class altogether
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: mattw on November 30, 2010, 06:42:14 PM
The video isn't all that good, there was better footage of this shoot on sky sports news.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: johnnyw on November 30, 2010, 06:43:58 PM
This is probably answered in a different topic but what is the handle of the COR made from as it is spliceless?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Howzat on November 30, 2010, 06:47:40 PM
Its made of the same materials just it is hidden under the grip
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on November 30, 2010, 07:14:48 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeazrV3xTzg&feature=player_embedded

LOVE IT!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on November 30, 2010, 09:27:21 PM
That's the same video as on the Mongoose website. Agree with mattw though, the coverage on SSN was better
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: procricket on November 30, 2010, 11:55:26 PM
tom


that you in the lid on sky sports aint it
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on December 01, 2010, 12:10:25 AM
anywhere i can view the SSN vid?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on December 01, 2010, 12:12:24 AM
SSN? :D

Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on December 01, 2010, 12:15:02 AM
online? ;)
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Johnny on December 01, 2010, 08:01:24 AM
I enjoyed the promo vid - looked blinking cold though!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: SempreSami on December 01, 2010, 04:20:51 PM
bit insulting to compare him to cook imo, different class altogether
I agree, Cook has never spent a whole day of a County Championship match to have some batting practise rather than declaring to try and set up a win.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: alexrickyponting on December 01, 2010, 04:46:12 PM
I agree, Cook has never spent a whole day of a County Championship match to have some batting practise rather than declaring to try and set up a win.
no he hasn't, considering the stte of the game cook was batting to save it. It was a very good innings but consider how many wickets fell after australia were 143-5, 7 - of which 4 were tailenders -  for 950 or so runs, which gives a good idea of how flat the pitch ended up being.
Trescothic not still playing international cricket is nothing to do with his talent, he has a stress-mental disorder of some kind. Cook has always done just enough throughout his career, long periods of which he has been circling the plughole and saving his skin at the last chance.

Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Damo1583 on December 01, 2010, 05:07:45 PM
Trescothick is by far the most talented player in this country!!!!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: justnotcricket86 on December 01, 2010, 05:47:40 PM
Trescothick is by far the most talented player in this country!!!!

Have you read his book? Incredible
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Buzz on December 01, 2010, 06:49:07 PM
no he hasn't, considering the stte of the game cook was batting to save it. It was a very good innings but consider how many wickets fell after australia were 143-5, 7 - of which 4 were tailenders -  for 950 or so runs, which gives a good idea of how flat the pitch ended up being.
Trescothic not still playing international cricket is nothing to do with his talent, he has a stress-mental disorder of some kind. Cook has always done just enough throughout his career, long periods of which he has been circling the plughole and saving his skin at the last chance.
That is way harsh - Cook has scored 4 hundreds this year and is one of our leading run scorers - everyone found it touch against the moving ball this summer.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: roco on December 01, 2010, 06:53:30 PM
Plenty of people get on cooks back but his avg is good for an opener plus he gets runs but ugly runs where as a tresco got more flamboyant runs but I like him big big future ahead
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: SempreSami on December 02, 2010, 12:24:32 PM
no he hasn't, considering the stte of the game cook was batting to save it. It was a very good innings but consider how many wickets fell after australia were 143-5, 7 - of which 4 were tailenders -  for 950 or so runs, which gives a good idea of how flat the pitch ended up being.
Trescothic not still playing international cricket is nothing to do with his talent, he has a stress-mental disorder of some kind. Cook has always done just enough throughout his career, long periods of which he has been circling the plughole and saving his skin at the last chance.
Congratulations on completely missing the point.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Damo1583 on December 02, 2010, 12:34:26 PM
Cook looks as assured as the Irish ecconomy at times!!! but you have got to hand it to him when he scores big he scores real big!!! justifiably in the side at the moment, consistancy is another key battle won by the England team where as the Aussies seem to be a side still in transition!!!!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: niceonechoppy on December 02, 2010, 12:42:26 PM
no he hasn't, considering the stte of the game cook was batting to save it. It was a very good innings but consider how many wickets fell after australia were 143-5, 7 - of which 4 were tailenders -  for 950 or so runs, which gives a good idea of how flat the pitch ended up being.
Trescothic not still playing international cricket is nothing to do with his talent, he has a stress-mental disorder of some kind. Cook has always done just enough throughout his career, long periods of which he has been circling the plughole and saving his skin at the last chance.


Are you joking? Cook averages 45, and is still only 25! He has been a consistent performer, and a solid member of the team! I can never really remember a situation where he has had to make a career saving hundred other than the Oval Test vs Pakistan, however he has made several career defining hundreds....
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Alvaro on December 02, 2010, 01:17:50 PM
Have you read his book? Incredible

yes - it is ghost-written tosh
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Richard on December 02, 2010, 01:23:32 PM
Alvaro -100% agree. I thought his book was dire, but then again a lot of sports autobiographys are.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: justnotcricket86 on December 02, 2010, 01:25:47 PM
yes - it is ghost-written tosh

Is it really? Feel a bit gutted finding that out now...
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Alvaro on December 02, 2010, 01:26:43 PM
Richard - up to a point. I felt opening up by atherton stood up to a second reading
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Alvaro on December 02, 2010, 01:28:02 PM
Is it really? Feel a bit gutted finding that out now...
for all his cricketing prowess, does tresco really strike you as someone who could write 300pp on mental illness and love of pig snacks?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Richard on December 02, 2010, 01:35:09 PM
I haven't read Athertons, then again, his column in the Times is excellent so i've no doubt its worth a read.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: SempreSami on December 02, 2010, 02:14:56 PM
I'm reading Michael Slater's, didn't know he suffered from bipolar 2.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: alexrickyponting on December 02, 2010, 04:36:13 PM
Congratulations on completely missing the point.
enlighten me then oh wise one
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: alexrickyponting on December 02, 2010, 04:40:34 PM
Are you joking? Cook averages 45, and is still only 25! He has been a consistent performer, and a solid member of the team! I can never really remember a situation where he has had to make a career saving hundred other than the Oval Test vs Pakistan, however he has made several career defining hundreds....
why do you think everyone always goes on about the pressure on him all the time, because he's often under pressure for his place. care to share his career defining hundreds? you can leave out his most recent one. If Trescothic wasn't "bipolar" cook wouln't have an international career.

Seeing as this is a mongoose topic i will not comment here on this issue again. Feel free to create a Cook vs Trescothic topic of some sort if you wish.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: RichW on December 02, 2010, 04:58:43 PM
why do you think everyone always goes on about the pressure on him all the time, because he's often under pressure for his place. care to share his career defining hundreds? you can leave out his most recent one. If Trescothic wasn't "bipolar" cook wouln't have an international career.

You say that Cook wouldn't have a career and Im inclined to agree with you I'm no big Cook fan. However if Tres was still play when Strauss was dropped Cook would have come in and may well still be there. Strauss never scores mountains of runs in county cricket to force himself back in. So whilst Cook might not have had a career Strauss might never have been captain and his career finished.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: SempreSami on December 02, 2010, 06:47:34 PM
enlighten me then oh wise one
Trezza chose to bat for most of the last day of Kent - Somerset at Canterbury this summer, instead of declaring early and having a shot at the weakest batting line up in Division One of the County Championship.  Somerset might have won the championship if he'd bothered to be adventurous that day.

And it doesn't say anywhere that Trezza is bipolar.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: roco on December 02, 2010, 06:54:20 PM
Tresco has a physiological thing but he is the better player but in the past now of people want to knock cook who could replace him very few could match his temperament
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: nicks on March 26, 2011, 01:25:58 PM
([url]http://imgur.com/YJNI4l.jpg[/url])


Want to remove this Mongoose sticker and replace with an anti-scuff covering the whole face. I see a few people recommend using a hair-dryer to remove stickers, only issue is that the sticker is somewhat irregularly shaped and there would be a lot of exposed wood being subjected to a blast of hot air.  :o

Any suggestions?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on March 26, 2011, 02:26:44 PM
Put the anti scuff over the stickers?
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: procricket on March 26, 2011, 02:31:36 PM
Cook is the new Chris Broad i will leave it there.

as liam says over the top
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: nicks on March 26, 2011, 02:35:51 PM
Put the anti scuff over the stickers?

It's just going to be a pain making sure there's no trapped air due to the irregular shape. The other worry is that as the entire face of the bat is likely to be regularly used two layers will really affect performance.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Ayrtek Cricket on March 26, 2011, 02:41:34 PM
i dont think two layers of 0.05mm thick vinyl is going to effect its performance by any massive measure!
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on March 26, 2011, 02:42:11 PM
If at all
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: nicks on March 26, 2011, 02:44:14 PM
I have enough performance issues as it is, I'm loathe to intoduce more.  ;) :D
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on March 26, 2011, 02:44:54 PM
The bats that the Mongoose pros are using have the sticker over the anti-scuff, doing it the other way won't make a difference.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Colesy on March 26, 2011, 02:46:42 PM
If it's performance you want then try a spring-loaded Mongoose with no stickers, no scuff sheet, no binding on the handle, 8 grips and a toe guard
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Liam-SCCC on March 26, 2011, 02:56:15 PM
GM also do this so you cannot remove the scuff sheet without losing the stickers. Is this a marketing tactic to make sure people go to them for refurbs? Rather than going to others who could sand around stickers
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: Tom on March 26, 2011, 03:00:49 PM
Sticker is more visible when placed on top of the scuffsheet is the reason we do it.
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: jimba101 on March 26, 2011, 03:02:46 PM
Hunts also do it now
Title: Re: Mongoose
Post by: kenbriooo on March 26, 2011, 03:35:12 PM
I put an anti scuff all up my mongoose and I really don't think it has affected the performance. The only thing that effects the performance is me trying to smash everything, have to remind myself that if I play 'normal' shots it will work better than me lift my head trying to heave!