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justnotcricket86

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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #15 on: December 19, 2012, 04:23:35 PM »

I am with Roco on that one. Yes Apple can charge those prices, but they have been going since the 80's and are well established in the market - with that comes a loyal fanbase that will buy into the company/products/ethos etc.
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #16 on: December 19, 2012, 04:25:50 PM »

The thing I think will hold back a lot of forum members from buying a hammer bat is that it is an unknown quantity

You do not disclose who makes your bats and for a customer that is shelling out £300+ this might be a big turn off, certainly is for me

Youve already said your primary market is elsewhere, where I'm sure this won't be as big an issue. Good luck to you
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #17 on: December 19, 2012, 04:28:05 PM »

Instinct came in at the top end of the pricing spectrum, look where they are now
Instinct's woes were not caused by their pricing...
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #18 on: December 19, 2012, 04:30:50 PM »

I just remembered reading something else Tim actually mate...I shall amend my post.
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #19 on: December 19, 2012, 04:33:57 PM »

Jason serves us North Americans well. If I were looking for a high end bat, I would consider his brand based on my past dealings with him.

Would like to hear Cover_Drive weigh in here as he has dealt with Jason as well in the past.
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2012, 04:35:42 PM »

Hi Jason and i hope you enjoy your stay on the forum. I think its great that youve joined the forum as rumours have mingled with facts and apart from paul of course very few people know the real deal of hammer bats. not that im demanding you to do it of course but i think that you would be a lot more accessable to the forum at least if you became a forum sponsor that might up your rep a bit ;) but other than that good luck and i hope you success in the near future :D
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2012, 04:55:48 PM »

If remember right Instinct were questioned as pricing at top end until bats were in use and bats reviewed.

I personally didn't like the post yesterday bit too aggressive.

Get people to challenge you yes.

Sorry I have missed what started this off which might be why you were so aggressive.
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2012, 04:56:42 PM »

I was at IJC when the hammer bats arrived, bit of mixed bag and a lot around 2'11 from what I remember. That Platinum really stood out though, nice bat. Decals are good also.
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2012, 05:01:10 PM »

I am trying not to bite on your condensending remark about buying a lower grade bat. the finances of purchasing one of your sticks is not an issue. I just think your prices are high for a brand that is unknown compared to GN, Kook, GM etc etc.

Like I said I wish you luck in getting some good sales via Paul at IJC

no worries...wasnt trying to be disrespectful...i get my bats are not for everybody...apologies if any toes were stood on..
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2012, 05:04:21 PM »

If remember right Instinct were questioned as pricing at top end until bats were in use and bats reviewed.
That's very true. I had one of the first five he sent out and to be fair it is still my go to bat above all others (although with the way the Hades is playing in, that may change).
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #25 on: December 19, 2012, 05:13:41 PM »

please remember first and foremost that there is life outside of forums...i know some may think i will struggle to sell bats at such a high price...i have done a quick calculation in my website and ive sold 27 bats this year under the hammer name at the 379 pound price point....havent discounted a single one of them...
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #26 on: December 19, 2012, 05:34:34 PM »

Looking back to the nub of the point of this thread I find it strange to compare what is a small brand to those of some reputation and many years of established status.

It would be rude to ask to see Hammer's business plan and as such gain an insight as to their pricing, but when I see prices of £368.21 and £613.09 I wince.
For less than £200 I can get a bespoke bat, made to measure, a cup of tea, and lots of love and respect from Warsop Stebbing. How can a small

If the intention is to compare on price then the small brand loses each time to those established behemoths. How can a small brand compete with the brand values and strength of GN, Slazenger et all.

As an entrepreneur, I know it is vital to price your product or service correctly.

If my favorite bat maker, Warsop all of a sudden started charging my GN money I would ask why.

For a small brand to charge the same as the market leaders they need to give significantly more value to the consumer to justify the price.

GN and the big firms have significant overhead which does not compare with the smaller brands. Warsop are based on a farm!

Sorry, but Hammer bats could be the monkeys hanging things, but as a small brand they should seriously reconsider their price point.

Just a thought.
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #27 on: December 19, 2012, 05:40:46 PM »

such things as the bespoke bat shapes, the marketing cost of decal design etc factor into the end cost of the product....as a business these would look to be recouped.

As Jason says if he's sold 27 bats already at £379 he's clearly doing something right as we don't sell that in a season at £279.99 :(

If people think the price is too expensive then don't buy one, bit like our lids we aren't forcing people to spend £250 on a helmet where there are options out there for less....but if they want to I'm not going to turn them away :D

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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #28 on: December 19, 2012, 05:47:14 PM »

such things as the bespoke bat shapes, the marketing cost of decal design etc factor into the end cost of the product....as a business these would look to be recouped.

As Jason says if he's sold 27 bats already at £379 he's clearly doing something right as we don't sell that in a season at £279.99 :(

If people think the price is too expensive then don't buy one, bit like our lids we aren't forcing people to spend £250 on a helmet where there are options out there for less....but if they want to I'm not going to turn them away :D

well said mate....you have some pricey Lids..and you are no GM or GN....but if you want something special and unique some people will pay the premium..
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Re: hammer bats, again
« Reply #29 on: December 19, 2012, 05:53:52 PM »

As long as they sell keep at it! Money is money. I cant afford them though!
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