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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #180 on: January 19, 2013, 05:08:24 PM »

Like the ideas

Just thought with 2 t20s on same day and 10 matches total it gives you both t20 matches which are more exciting but still gives you the day of cricket out or on tv like from and ODI. Means you can play your whole 15 kam squad on same day as well.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #181 on: January 19, 2013, 05:09:31 PM »

I'd like to see the odi format change - maybe to a 2 innings a side of 25 overs each and then the highest overall total wins.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #182 on: January 19, 2013, 05:57:09 PM »

I'd like to see the odi format change - maybe to a 2 innings a side of 25 overs each and then the highest overall total wins.


So basically two T20's then.. just added together..

Nah, the ODI can be kept but just use a totally different squad. So you don't have players being used in all formats etc.. Keep it separate and pay them differently to keep Test cricket as the best form.

ODI's either need to go to the same as Pro40 OR Pro40 needs doing away with and copy international ODI rules.. Seems stupid that the county sides play a totally different sytle of one day cricket. it's only 10 overs BUT it makes a difference
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #183 on: January 19, 2013, 06:08:54 PM »

Problem with using a totally different sqaud is you might as well just go and watch county cricket as thats all it will be and the standard will drop
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #184 on: January 19, 2013, 06:12:12 PM »

Problem with using a totally different sqaud is you might as well just go and watch county cricket as thats all it will be and the standard will drop

more people watching CC isn't a bad thing. Would it really lower the quality that much though?? Look at the current ODI squad, barring one or two everyone else is replaceable if people are being honest.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #185 on: January 19, 2013, 10:45:55 PM »

Kieswetter can't have long left surely - he's always been a block or smash it merchant, except now he can't seem to do either. Buttler needs to take the gauntlets, if Prior is definitely not in the one-day picture.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #186 on: January 19, 2013, 10:54:11 PM »

Is there a bit if chicken and egg here? Should Buttler be picked ahead of Kieswetter for England when Kieswetter is picked ahead of Buttler for Somerset? Maybe if Somerset promote Buttler first, then England might follow suit
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #187 on: January 19, 2013, 11:01:36 PM »

Also, the commentators were saying Buttler can't keep for 50 overs.

They seemed to agree (without coming out and sayin it) that as soon as Bairstow sorts himself out, the job would be his.

New Zealand ODi side could line up like this -

Cook
Bell
Trott
KP
Root
Bairstow
Woakes / Stokes
Broad
Swann
Anderson
Finn
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #188 on: January 20, 2013, 12:27:44 AM »

Is there a bit if chicken and egg here? Should Buttler be picked ahead of Kieswetter for England when Kieswetter is picked ahead of Buttler for Somerset? Maybe if Somerset promote Buttler first, then England might follow suit
After watching somerset quite a fair bit, i'd have to say that Kieswetter is more consistent domestically (something he certainly isn't for England) but I don't think he has the game for international ODI's, he's very strong on the off side but international players work you out very quickly, and now they simply bowl straight to him. He must be low on confidence as he seems to be a little bit rabbit in the headlights at the moment.

I also like the fact that Buttler is actually English ;)
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #189 on: January 23, 2013, 08:52:17 AM »

Cook just got a shocker from, yep a local umpire! Sorry but if you want local umpire in an international you have DRS, because that dismissal looks pretty much like bias to me.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #190 on: January 23, 2013, 09:06:38 AM »

they should never have a home umpire for internationals of whatever form. I don't understand how it can be that way.
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #191 on: January 23, 2013, 09:09:18 AM »

why cant buttler keep for 50 overs? Hes a keeper who keeps all day in the CC when Kieswetter is away on england duty. Buttler is a lot better keeper than bairstow IMO and should be kept in the role. i hope he had a stormer of a game!
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #192 on: January 23, 2013, 11:43:36 AM »

Grrrrrrr!  why are we persisting with Dernbach and samit?????


1 run of 10 balls for one and the other ones got the worst RPO in ODI cricket - I see he's going for a few again!
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #193 on: January 23, 2013, 11:46:52 AM »

I agree up to a point Brucie boy but I can't help but think that we haven't seen the best of Dernbach yet. He's got everything, pace, variations, swing etc but he's just not producing it regularly at the moment. Give him a bit of time and I think he'll become one of our very best bowlers in this format. Got to stick with him I think.

As for Samit I get the impression we're picking him for his batting! Fair enough really when you look at how he's done. Shame his bowling is a bit pony!
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Re: England Vs India T20 and ODI
« Reply #194 on: January 23, 2013, 11:48:48 AM »

why cant buttler keep for 50 overs? Hes a keeper who keeps all day in the CC when Kieswetter is away on england duty. Buttler is a lot better keeper than bairstow IMO and should be kept in the role. i hope he had a stormer of a game!

Buttler and Bairstow are much of a muchness with the gloves - which is to say that neither is a whole lot of cop at the moment.  The wicketkeeping slot is a tricky one - either could be given a run in the side in the hope that they will improve on the job - because there are not a lot of other good options.  Prior is probably best left to Tests (though the additional fielder in the circle might well suit his game) and Bedwetter is just not making the grade  Of the remaining county keepers, Davies, Foster, Read and Mustard have been tried and passed over (though Davies seemed a bit hard done by in that decision) and the rest, well, don't inspire confidence.
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