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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #45 on: March 06, 2013, 10:48:38 AM »

didnt say that. I rate him as a better all-round cricketer than Rashid and more importantly he seems to be mentally stronger.

Haven't seen much of Kerrigan so can't really comment on his potential

Possibly so on the mental side - though Rashid did pretty well in the Big Bash for two seasons and under pressure for England in ODI cricket, so he can't be a complete muppet.  Just reckon with Rafiq that he is very much an out and out bowler, whereas Rashid is a three dimensional cricketer.
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #46 on: March 06, 2013, 10:49:40 AM »

I wonder who else could take the gloves?

Prior is only 31 so could have a good 5 years left at the top.
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #47 on: March 06, 2013, 10:53:36 AM »

Prior is only 31 so could have a good 5 years left at the top.

At least
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #48 on: March 06, 2013, 10:55:17 AM »

And there are numerous potential candidates - Buttler, Foakes, Davies, Brown, Kieswetter
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #49 on: March 06, 2013, 10:55:54 AM »

Kerrigan is the best spinner in England bar the 3 involved at the moment. A first class average of 28 with over 100 wickets is very impressive compared to the Aussie counterparts.
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #50 on: March 06, 2013, 10:59:53 AM »

Possibly so on the mental side - though Rashid did pretty well in the Big Bash for two seasons and under pressure for England in ODI cricket, so he can't be a complete muppet.  Just reckon with Rafiq that he is very much an out and out bowler, whereas Rashid is a three dimensional cricketer.

Having a good Big Bash doesn't equate to being worthy of a Test spot for England surely? First class wickets should. I have nothing against Rashid, he is obviously talented and I would love to see a leg-spinner playing for England in a Test match but I just don't see it happening in the foreseeable future.

The ODI side is his best bet same as Rafiq and they will probably be competing for the same spot in the future
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #51 on: March 06, 2013, 11:06:45 AM »

Having a good Big Bash doesn't equate to being worthy of a Test spot for England surely? First class wickets should. I have nothing against Rashid, he is obviously talented and I would love to see a leg-spinner playing for England in a Test match but I just don't see it happening in the foreseeable future.

No, but if you've levelled the suggestion that he is mentally weak I think it is an environment in which to perform which would reasonably countter the allegation
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #52 on: March 06, 2013, 11:08:37 AM »

I think Rafiq is ahead of Rashid. I think Yorkshire dropped Rashid at the end of last season as they'd got exasperated at his lack of performances. Rafiq also finished the season against Derby with two battling half centuries and has been identified as having the leadership qualities needed, having led York in their T20 campaign. A definite contender for a spot in the T20 / ODI sides.
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #53 on: March 06, 2013, 11:19:57 AM »

No, but if you've levelled the suggestion that he is mentally weak I think it is an environment in which to perform which would reasonably countter the allegation

I think what I actually 'levelled' was that Rafiq was mentally stronger
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #54 on: March 06, 2013, 11:34:33 AM »

lets get dockrell qualified for england and stick him in! probably slightly better in the batting stakes than monty. in all seriousness. Swann will be back. Monty and or tredwell will do a decent job in the meantime and the likes of briggs kerrigan etc etc will hopefully develop in the lions squads. hopefully develop alot!
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #55 on: March 06, 2013, 04:32:46 PM »

Are there any Kiwi members around that know what the chances of some cricket tonight are?
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #56 on: March 06, 2013, 06:06:09 PM »

Are there any Kiwi members around that know what the chances of some cricket tonight are?
Weather.com suggests overcast but no rain, so potential.
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #57 on: March 06, 2013, 07:31:07 PM »

Are there any Kiwi members around that know what the chances of some cricket tonight are?

I'm in Christchurch but apparently play will start on time.

Shame we can't sub in Jamie How, scored 222 yesterday in a 50 over game, 2nd highest ever one day score, not a bad knock I say.
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #58 on: March 06, 2013, 07:34:44 PM »

He scored a shed load of runs in club cricket over here in the summer just gone.
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Re: England vs New Zealand 1st test
« Reply #59 on: March 06, 2013, 09:11:32 PM »

Compdog gone for 0

Very poor defence from him as well :(  First of six nails in his international career maybe??
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