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[lazza32]

@cricketfreak. Typical, the English fans think the team's poo don,t stink. If you think onfield banter is just an Aussie thing you might as well pack up your unicorn and fly to Hogwarts. What an absolute crock. You lost and now you are venting at Clarke. How about having a go at cook.

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[Giraffe208]

To be fair he did say he isn't English or Australian, just a cricket fan with an opinion

[lazza32]

Either make it legal or illegal but don't winge about what is said because you personally feel offended and I mean from any country not just australia. Except if it's racial.

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[billyb]

I love Clarke, as an Englishman, and he is my favourite batsman in world cricket. He also probably the best captain in world cricket.
HOWEVER

Saying, as a captain, that you are going to break someone's arm is absolutely ridiculous, unacceptable and sets a worrying precedent.

I love the sledging, the banter that comes with the Ashes- it is what makes it what it is, and I understand entirely that this is 6 and half a dozen. We give it out too, that cannot be ignored, and I'm sure similar things were said by our boys.

There is a line in the sand, and unfortunately Clarke has smashed straight through it. 
Keep it sharp, within the lines of common sense and play cricket- both England and Australia.

If people cannot see that what he has said is wrong, they need to take a long hard look at themselves.

[CrickFreak]

Either make it legal or illegal but don't winge about what is said because you personally feel offended and I mean from any country not just australia. Except if it's racial.

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As I said, I am neither English nor Aussie, just a cricket fan... Love to follow the oldest tradition in cricket history - The Ashes. But just feel Aussies cross the line more often than others and should respect the sport more. I follow a lot of team sports, but when Australia is playing cricket, there is lot of action not just between bat and ball but more between individuals. This much of trash talk does not happen even in NFL which is a contact sport

As far as Clarke is concerned, he has lot to achieve as a captain before he starts threatening people on field. And its not just Clarke, I also mentioned Ponting, Waugh etc. Being a captain, you should be the last one to bring disrepute to this great sport. Again I love the banter between bowler and batsman, thats what adds spice to the game and makes it fun to watch, but a captain threatening someone is over the line and cheap.

LOt of young kids watching... and i see them sledging in league games etc. looks awful and at times laughable. But thats just me...

[lazza32]

If what he said was illegal then he will be sanctioned. If not stop your complaining and harden up. Even Anderson had a rye smile at the end.

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[billyb]

If what he said was illegal then he will be sanctioned. If not stop your complaining and harden up. Even Anderson had a rye smile at the end.

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This is exactly the attitude that will spoil cricket.

[lazza32]

Or make it better

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[Vic Nicholas]

If flower is smart he will be using Clarkes comments as a method to focus the English minds and give them the kick up the backside they deserve. They look undercooked thanks in no part to the schedule and some of the lollipop served up in the practice games ie AU's A playing with 2 frontline seamers, one of which barely got to 125kph. A far cry from the practice matches 3 years ago. I think aus can whistle next time they come to the UK. They will be lucky to get 3 days in northern Scotland against a club side. That aside England must get better and who knows whether the comments will come back to bite aus. I doubt Anderson will be losing much sleep over it, I'm sure he's heard similar in Burnley.

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Are you one eyed or simply something worse?

In Cutting (a future test bowler), Copeland (an ex test bowler) and Henriques (past and future test allrounder) the Australians offered up a far better attack than the rubbish served up to the Aussies in England during the warm up matches this last Northern summer.

Go ahead and name the bowling attacks fielded in the Aussie warm up matches...go on...

Dufus.

[billyb]

Or make it better

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How, in any way, shape or form, will such an attitude be beneficial for the future of cricket at all levels?

How can anyone possible condone Clarke's actions?
That simply was not cricket, but little more than mere hooliganism.

[Vic Nicholas]

This is why Aussies are hated world over. When a captain sets such examples, what can you expect from guys like Warner, Watson etc who are just uncivilized in my opinion. First win the series Mr. Clarke. I hope England comes back strong and shows Australia how to do it humbly...

What a self righteous plonker you are.

Anderson (an overrated piece of shyte) gives it in spades. Serves the (No Swearing Please) right.

Are you forgetting that this weed (entirely unprovoked) smashed Clarke across the face with a pad in the dressing room post series in 2007?

Why should Clarke like, much less be civil, to a smarmy (No Swearing Please) like Anderson?

You poms love dishing it out, but you cry like stuck pigs the moment anyone gives it back.

If you are going to give it, learn to cop it.

[Vic Nicholas]

How, in any way, shape or form, will such an attitude be beneficial for the future of cricket at all levels?

How can anyone possible condone Clarke's actions?
That simply was not cricket, but little more than mere hooliganism.

Cry me a river bud.

This stuff has been going on since time immemorial...it is only now that the stump mics pick it up.

[Vic Nicholas]

To all you self righteous moral guardians crying about what Warner said about Trott...yeah, it was uncool in my eyes to publically embarrass a fellow professional cricketer, but why haven't any of you referenced YOUR VERY OWN CAPTAIN Atherton who said in 1993:

"Steve Waugh is scared of fast bowling, you can see it coming down his leg"

I reckon coming from a CAPTAIN no less, that is far WORSE than Warner's dopey comments...don't you think?

Or is it only morally outrageous when an Aussie says such things?

Pot. Kettle. Black.

[lazza32]

Do you know what Anderson said to Bailey?no, alright then your argument is one sided. As for benefiting the game. I am a pragmatic person and raise my children the same way. It is not beneficial for me to teach my kids that the world is all beer and skittles because it lines them up for a shock in the real world. International cricket is a mental game and if you can't handle sledging then your going to struggle. It also brings out the characters of the game. Remember the 80's and 90's you had lillee, Warne, Chappell bros., Vic, botham. All of these guys put test cricket on the map not because they were soft but because they were hard men. As long as it doesn't degrade to racial, sexual orientation or religious slurs then let it be.

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[billyb]

To all you self righteous moral guardians crying about what Warner said about Trott...yeah, it was uncool in my eyes to publically embarrass a fellow professional cricketer, but why haven't any of you referenced YOUR VERY OWN CAPTAIN Atherton who said in 1993:

I reckon coming from a CAPTAIN no less, that is far WORSE than Warner's dopey comments...don't you think?

Or is it only morally outrageous when an Aussie says such things?

I've had enough of this, I have no desire to have an argument with two angry Australians over the internet at 3am, I have far more productive things to do with my time.
I will say this, however.

A) Warner's comments were, to be honest, the truth. Trott was terrified and he called it as he saw it. Disrespectful or not, that is Warner in a nutshell. I have no problem with that.

B) Clarke just threatened Anderson with breaking his arm. Great comparison between captains there.

C) 'Only morally outrageous when Aussies say such things'? Grow up. Lose the victim mentality, putting words in people's mouths and borderline slander. At what point did anybody suggest that?

and finally, D).

 why haven't any of you referenced YOUR VERY OWN CAPTAIN Atherton who said in 1993:

Since when is it considered normal to present a counter-argument to your own beliefs, with evidence, in a debate/argument? Again, also hardly threatening to break an arm, that is just sledging, as was Warner.

Night lads, enjoy your day. [/b]