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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #15 on: November 26, 2013, 08:54:03 AM »

The info in the box stated that the new design didn't allow this to happen. And from having the old grill, I can tell you the gap is much, much smaller. It'd be impossible for a ball to get through. The info said that this was the main reason for the new grill design. And despite the gap being substantially smaller, the vision is just as good as my old Albion, and that was always top notch.
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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #16 on: November 26, 2013, 10:05:00 AM »

The news tests and regs are all to do with making the grills as well as the peaks stronger.

Tests have shown that even though there is no gap between the top of the grill and the peak, the sheer speed of the ball could potentially bend the grill back enough to hit the batsmen's face. Pls note however that the tests are done at 90mph, so very very few senior cricketers and certainly no junior cricketers would face those deliveries.

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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #17 on: November 26, 2013, 10:11:23 AM »

Thats not 100% true as the new test procedures are going to be at 23m/s (51mph) for a junior ball and at 28m/s (62mph) for a senior ball.

Preliminary evidence presented to the committee showed that even at speeds of 30mph balls were still passing through gaps between peak and grille at 40mm settings.
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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #18 on: November 26, 2013, 10:13:58 AM »

Yeah, it said something about that and the improved peak when I opened the box. Be interesting to see if Albion change the design like Masuri have. Personally I hope not as I'm a huge fan of Albion's traditional style which I've worn since Under 10's. Masuri's popularity have increased here due to most Aussie players wearing them, but personally I would never wear anything other than an Albion. Funny coincidence is that all may favourite players still wear them too (Mitch Johnson, AB DeVilliers, Hashim Amla and Ross Taylor)  If there were none left in the world though, I'd consider an Ayrtek because they look like smashing helmets too.
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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #19 on: November 26, 2013, 10:16:50 AM »

Thats not 100% true as the new test procedures are going to be at 23m/s (51mph) for a junior ball and at 28m/s (62mph) for a senior ball.

Preliminary evidence presented to the committee showed that even at speeds of 30mph balls were still passing through gaps between peak and grille at 40mm settings.
So glad we have an expert here!! Thanks for correcting me.

Are we talking about a ball going through the gap at those speeds or the effects of an impact at speeds of 51mph and 62mph respectively. We always advise juniors and seniors to never have a bigger gap than the ball.

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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #20 on: November 26, 2013, 10:40:57 AM »

Those are the speeds that will be fired at the peak/grille area during the new BSI standard. The helmet has to perform in order to stop the ball penetrating the area as well as ensuring no part of the helmet/grille comes into contact with the facial area.
« Last Edit: November 26, 2013, 07:06:27 PM by Ayrtek »
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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #21 on: November 26, 2013, 07:01:46 PM »

Anyone had one penetrate the grill in any of their games ?

Not a game, but had my eyebrow split in nets after top edging one through the peak and grillss
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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #22 on: November 26, 2013, 07:06:38 PM »


Not a game, but had my eyebrow split in nets after top edging one through the peak and grillss
What brand helmet were you using?

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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #23 on: November 27, 2013, 12:45:34 AM »

So all current '98 standard helmets will have to be unloaded on unsuspecting public and retailers before the '14 regs come in. Then anything unsold will have to be binned.
Wisest move for retailers would be to send back any stock now and get some Ayrteks in.
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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2014, 10:20:57 AM »

Thought some might be interested to see the letter sent out from ECB via our county board today on this:

NEW CRICKET HEAD PROTECTOR TESTING STANDARD
(More commonly known as the Helmet testing standard)
The ECB, PCA and the ICC have worked with BSi and head protector manufacturers to develop a new specification for the testing of head protection for cricketers. This specification has recently been approved by BSi Group, which is the national body responsible for producing appropriate safety standards in the UK. With cricketers and bowling machines able to deliver cricket balls at high speeds, and given the obvious importance of protecting against head injuries wherever possible, head protectors are an essential part of a cricketer’s kit.
It is important that individuals understand how the new specification will apply to head protectors on sale from Spring/Summer 2014.
The key features of the new specification, BS7928:2013, are:
1 it now includes a facial contact projectile test that assesses for penetration of the ball through the faceguard, and contact of the faceguard onto the face, using realistic ball impact speeds and conditions; and
2. head protectors have been tested separately against men’s and junior sized cricket balls (a five-and-a-half ounce ball and a four-and-three-quarter ounce ball, respectively).
Head protectors that have been tested against the new standard will be clearly labelled with “BS7928:2013” and will contain clear labelling setting out whether a head protector has been tested against (i) men’s standard ball size of 5 ½ ounces, (ii) junior standard ball size of 4 ¾ ounces, or (iii) both men’s and junior size balls.
The manufacturers have advised that there is currently no specific women’s head protector and so there is no specific standard for women’s cricket head protectors. As the size of the standard women’s cricket ball is between the standard men and junior balls, it is recommended that women use head protectors that have been tested against both the men’s and junior sized ball or at least against the junior size ball (as the smaller ball could potentially get through the gap above the face guard on a men’s head protector).
From 30 June 2014, the old BSI standard for cricket head protectors (BS7928:1998) will be withdrawn and the ECB therefore recommends that all new head protectors brought to market are tested against the new standard. However, head protectors which have already been tested against the old standard can and will continue to be available for sale and will not be withdrawn from the market.
In light of this, the ECB has issued this guidance to ensure that the public understands the meaning and merits of the new specification (and consequent labelling that will soon be introduced) and therefore to enable the public to make an informed decision as to which head protector to use.
Finally, whilst the ECB considers that head protectors are an essential part of a cricketer’s kit to mitigate the risk of injury, it must be remembered that wearing a head protector and faceguard (whether or not it has been tested against the new standard) cannot always prevent death, injury or disability.
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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2014, 11:08:28 AM »

Wonder what shops will do??Public liability insurance  will be fun.
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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #26 on: March 28, 2014, 04:38:25 PM »

No difference then in truth guidance not law is what I'm reading.
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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #27 on: March 28, 2014, 04:42:07 PM »

The old BSI standard is/was also guidance, but helmets that did not pass it are/were not sold.

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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #28 on: March 28, 2014, 04:44:22 PM »

So basically shrey helmets are legal to buy in England as they have passed the old regulation.

Is that what where saying??
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Re: 2014 BSI helmet regulations
« Reply #29 on: March 28, 2014, 04:48:19 PM »

So basically shrey helmets are legal to buy in England as they have passed the old regulation.

Is that what where saying??

Until 30 June yes.

After that, it is still a grey area in my opinion, i haven't had chance to pin down someone on that specific part of the new standard and ask for a straight answer. But even if it is open to interpretation, i don't know if there will be any retailers willing to risk stocking Shrey, public liability etc.
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