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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #30 on: January 12, 2014, 10:02:28 AM »

Oh what fresh hell is this?

Top of our order who has 2 guys woefully out of form - neither of whom go any runs. Buttler batting at 8 is ridiculous.

Bowling unit contains Rankin who is way out of rhythm and Bresnan who is so poor at the moment. Broad had many days off after the test, why does he need more of a rest?

No spinner??????????????? I know it's short boundaries, but you've got to give one a go.

This is painful, several players look a little shell-shocked, and for those mentioned above, they've not picked themselves up yet for this series.

So, so frustrating!! Who else is in the ODI squad?  Broad for Rankin, Tredwell / Borthwick for Root, anyone else for Bressie?
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #31 on: January 12, 2014, 10:07:48 AM »

Luke Wright is in awsome form in bbl3 for the stars...
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #32 on: January 12, 2014, 10:12:12 AM »

Team Selection was embarrassing. Nothing made any sense whatsoever. Spinners change the tempo of the game and short boundaries straight but not square. It's like England are just going through the motions. When has 5 seam up bowlers ever been a good strategy in an ODI?
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #33 on: January 12, 2014, 10:21:05 AM »

Tredwell would have been really difficult on this pitch.  A complete missread by team england...
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #34 on: January 12, 2014, 10:21:25 AM »

Giles for England coach? Laughable!

Didn't see the batting, but I suppose the positives are Morgan and Jordan?
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #35 on: January 12, 2014, 10:25:07 AM »

Just how does Bresnan get in this team? Another one dropped for the last test as clearly not fit, yet first choice come the ODI's. Going at 7.5 per over as he trundles in to bowl. I run in faster than him and I'm a batsman. People complain that Bopara's playing but his bowling looks as good as Bresnan and he'd be a far better no.9.
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #36 on: January 12, 2014, 10:29:22 AM »

Just how does Bresnan get in this team? Another one dropped for the last test as clearly not fit, yet first choice come the ODI's. Going at 7.5 per over as he trundles in to bowl. I run in faster than him and I'm a batsman. People complain that Bopara's playing but his bowling looks as good as Bresnan and he'd be a far better no.9.

Bopara is never in a million years a bowler that should be bowling 10 overs in an ODI. Bits and pieces cricketers and he didn't need to play with Buttler in the side. Tredwell would've been something different, even Doherty had relatively acceptable figures.
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #37 on: January 12, 2014, 10:30:00 AM »

England's obsession with having bits and pieces 'all rounders' in ODI cricket is the reason they can't win an ICC 50 over event.

Pick 6 batsmen, 1 all rounder and 4 proper bowlers.

If any of the top 6 can bowl it's a bonus. If any of the bowlers can bat it's a bonus.
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #38 on: January 12, 2014, 10:36:20 AM »

They must've had a team meeting in which they thought this was a good balanced side. That worries me a lot.

Bopara probably can't believe his luck that he is still getting picked to play.
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #39 on: January 12, 2014, 10:37:04 AM »

England's obsession with having bits and pieces 'all rounders' in ODI cricket is the reason they can't win an ICC 50 over event.

Pick 6 batsmen, 1 all rounder and 4 proper bowlers.

If any of the top 6 can bowl it's a bonus. If any of the bowlers can bat it's a bonus.

This!

I've liked watching Jordan bowl this morning. He has had no luck but appears to have a decent attitude.
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #40 on: January 12, 2014, 10:37:25 AM »

Bopara is never in a million years a bowler that should be bowling 10 overs in an ODI. Bits and pieces cricketers and he didn't need to play with Buttler in the side. Tredwell would've been something different, even Doherty had relatively acceptable figures.

You say that but Bopara has 6 overs for 30. Bresnan has 7 overs for 45. I'd say never in a million years should Bresnan bowl 10 overs in an ODI. He's the bits and pieces cricketer who's not good enough with bat or ball.
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #41 on: January 12, 2014, 10:38:29 AM »

Bopara's role in the side is a waste of time though. Buttler can bat six and a frontline spinner can bowl his overs.

Agree on Bresnan also.

Is Carberry injured? If so that's another huge error not picking the guy in the format he is best at.
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #42 on: January 12, 2014, 10:38:45 AM »

Rough on Bopara - his bowling looks more threatening than Bresnans, and he should score more runs. Worth it as 6th bowler.
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #43 on: January 12, 2014, 10:51:20 AM »

Bopara deserves his place in the team on current form.  Averaged over 50 at better than a run a ball in ODIs in 2013 and took his wickets at a better average and economy rate than both Broad and Bresnan.
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Re: England vs Australia 1st ODI
« Reply #44 on: January 12, 2014, 10:59:58 AM »

Ive defended england to the hilt on these boards but im getting worried the thinking from the top has gone wrong.we are nit trying to get wickets here,way too defensive.
Bopara is a decent player but we should have tredwell or briggs in as a specialist.
Carberry should be in for root and leave out rankin- hes powder puff for such a big bloke
We need to start changing our thinking....and we need to do it quickly
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