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Re: Ravi Bopara...again.
« Reply #45 on: January 26, 2014, 01:01:18 PM »

what makes you think buttler cant bat 6
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« Reply #46 on: January 26, 2014, 01:09:24 PM »

Christ on a Bike!  4 pages of arguing about a bail on a stumping for an out of form batsman.

And no mention of the fact that we should have chased down 217 in 50 overs.

We're a poor side, well beaten by a better one.

Roll on the T20's then the re-building process.
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« Reply #47 on: January 26, 2014, 01:20:14 PM »

what makes you think buttler cant bat 6

His temperament and lack of applicability (and possibly a lack of technique/skill).

In the 50 over format the number six is often responsible rebuilding an innings and then accumulating through the middle period.  Buttler has a good eye and is great at slapping it around but he doesn't have the patience required.  He might develop this later on but right now I don't see him as a number 6.

Up the top of the order with a free license or down at 7 to come in with 10 overs to go to close a game are where he does his best work.
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« Reply #48 on: January 26, 2014, 01:34:59 PM »

His temperament and lack of applicability (and possibly a lack of technique/skill).

In the 50 over format the number six is often responsible rebuilding an innings and then accumulating through the middle period.  Buttler has a good eye and is great at slapping it around but he doesn't have the patience required.  He might develop this later on but right now I don't see him as a number 6.

Up the top of the order with a free license or down at 7 to come in with 10 overs to go to close a game are where he does his best work.

Buttler has patience just fine! Just needs to be given a bit of time to develop at that level, learn his game a bit better. Nothing wrong with his temperament, and certainly not his technique!
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« Reply #49 on: January 26, 2014, 01:52:01 PM »

he batted at 5-6 for somerset in the 1 day stuff and did well him and Morgan are our 2 most consistent batsman in ODI cricket and should be given time to get big scores stop playing cricket old style the top teams attack from the start and continue.the top three will attack morgan and ali can work the ball around as can buttler plus morgan butter and stokes can clear the rope with ease.we need to stop living in the past and develop are cricket you need 300+ to win a majorty of ODI now   
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« Reply #50 on: January 26, 2014, 01:56:50 PM »

His temperament and lack of applicability (and possibly a lack of technique/skill).


I'm not usually one to disagree outright with someone's opinion on the internet but I'm going to struggle with this one!

If anyone in the current England team has shown they have an even temperament, surely it's Buttler.

Being able to slap sixes around does not also equate with a lack of skill.

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« Reply #51 on: January 26, 2014, 02:04:25 PM »

My comments are confined solely to the number 6 slot in the batting order.  I said that he would be suited to opening... where his technique and skills are more applicable.

At least I know people are on the forums today :)
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« Reply #52 on: January 26, 2014, 02:31:34 PM »

My comments are confined solely to the number 6 slot in the batting order.  I said that he would be suited to opening... where his technique and skills are more applicable.

At least I know people are on the forums today :)
what is the massive differance between 6-7 apart from getting in earlier
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« Reply #53 on: January 26, 2014, 02:39:04 PM »


In the 50 over format the number six is often responsible rebuilding an innings and then accumulating through the middle period.  Buttler has a good eye and is great at slapping it around but he doesn't have the patience required.  He might develop this later on but right now I don't see him as a number 6.


If you are picking a number 6 in a one-day game solely on his ability to rebuild an innings I would suggest that a new selection policy is needed - starting by picking a new top 5
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« Reply #54 on: January 26, 2014, 02:40:39 PM »

Christ on a Bike!  4 pages of arguing about a bail on a stumping for an out of form batsman.

And no mention of the fact that we should have chased down 217 in 50 overs.

We're a poor side, well beaten by a better one.

Roll on the T20's then the re-building process.

Christ on a bike!!!!!

Nail head there Bruce  best post of the day
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« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2014, 02:44:24 PM »

Well yes... you have a point!

Maybe just reverse the order.
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« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2014, 04:13:20 PM »

all the talent in the world, none of the brains would be my summary.
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« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2014, 05:24:20 PM »

Christ on a Bike!  4 pages of arguing about a bail on a stumping for an out of form batsman.

And no mention of the fact that we should have chased down 217 in 50 overs.

We're a poor side, well beaten by a better one.

Roll on the T20's then the re-building process.

Agreed.. Poor squad and can't wait for the slap and tickle to be over either tbh. This whole set up needs clearing out.. Toxic
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« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2014, 05:33:59 PM »

His temperament and lack of applicability (and possibly a lack of technique/skill).

In the 50 over format the number six is often responsible rebuilding an innings and then accumulating through the middle period.  Buttler has a good eye and is great at slapping it around but he doesn't have the patience required.  He might develop this later on but right now I don't see him as a number 6.

Up the top of the order with a free license or down at 7 to come in with 10 overs to go to close a game are where he does his best work.

the thing is, he has rarely been in that situation so has not been able to answer the question as to whether he can or cannot do it.
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« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2014, 05:43:57 PM »

good news for some.


west indies odi tour Will be used as a warm up for the t20 world cup. so will be t20 squad only.
that means no cook for starters(broad will captain)

should also mean we get to see what hales and lumb etc can do in the 50over game
 hopefully well and stake a claim permanently
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