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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #45 on: March 19, 2015, 06:34:49 PM »

Who fears him now ????

I doubt anybody does
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #46 on: March 19, 2015, 06:41:43 PM »

Who fears him now ????

I doubt anybody does

still more than our current mob
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #47 on: March 19, 2015, 06:46:52 PM »

Who fears him now ????

I doubt anybody does

Any team will fear playing against him, the bloke is a batting genius. Yes he has not played longer format cricket in a while but I assure you if he gets the chance to play county cricket I would go straight to the bookies on him being the top county run scorer his desire to prove how good he is mixed with arrogance, commitment, hardwork and pure talent will allow that to happen.

That's my view anyway I just think that's the type of player and person he is.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #48 on: March 19, 2015, 07:05:04 PM »

All I know is bloody KP and this ENGLAND management circus call it what you want is overshadowing what is important my cricket team.

I love KP as a player but sick of hearing about him and the bloody circus.

No player or crap management is bigger than the team crap from all sides


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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #49 on: March 19, 2015, 07:31:50 PM »

All I know is bloody KP and this ENGLAND management circus call it what you want is overshadowing what is important my cricket team.

I love KP as a player but sick of hearing about him and the bloody circus.

No player or crap management is bigger than the team crap from all sides

but the guys in it now arent upto it, cant just leave them to be poor
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #50 on: March 19, 2015, 07:40:43 PM »

I guess where going to find out white ball red ball different kettle.

I suspect some people want England to fail just to say "I told you so"

Anybody watched BREWSTERS MILLIONS I vote none of the above KP AND ECB and the moron which is Morgan piers,  and Moores
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #51 on: March 19, 2015, 07:52:04 PM »

I'm a big KP fan and love watching him play but I truly believe England should move on without him. I agree he would add some steel to the middle order but for how long? My approach would be to build a team around the aggressive younger players currently in the squad. And lets be honest the English front line bowler's are a bigger concern than 1 batsman.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #52 on: March 19, 2015, 07:54:18 PM »

but the guys in it now arent upto it, cant just leave them to be poor

Steve Smith wasn't up to it 18 months ago and may get found out by the moving ball but what about the up and comin player take a James Vince a Adam LYth a James Taylor real untested people how you know there not up to it.
I was one of Root biggest critics but given time he has become a fine player all players deserve that chance
Who says untest people are not good enough.

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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #53 on: March 19, 2015, 07:55:07 PM »

Steve Smith wasn't up to it 18 months ago and may get found out by the moving ball but what about the up and comin player take a James Vince a Adam LYth a James Taylor real untested people how you know there not up to it.

Who says untest people are not good enough.

not got a problem with them trying new players mate, just the current mob
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #54 on: March 19, 2015, 09:17:05 PM »

if you are only thinking of the ODI world cup.. how old is KP? How old is Dilshan? Mahela? Sangakkara?  Pretty sure KP will be their age and Sanga just score 4 tons in a row!

I suspect you posted this before SL's earth shattering performance against SA while batting first. :D Yes, Sanga scored 4 tons in a row but he had one of the worst freezes of a batsman of his caliber in a knock-out game.

England has great cricket talent. ECB is better off nurturing that talent, grooming them for international level instead of dealing with KP drama. Make them play against the best, let them fight it out. They may lose. Big deal! They will learn and they will grow. If the right talent is not in the international squad, them find it, nurture it, and groom it. Wash, rinse, repeat.

This whole KP situation is a distraction for England cricket and continue to be until ECB shows some spine. If this kind of a situation arose in another setup, cricket fans (anywhere) would deem this situation a distraction too. Also, recurrence of such drama makes England cricket look bad. Yes, yes, I know the retort is "what about the recent results?". Still, move on. There are Taylor, Vince, Ali, Hales, Stokes (diamond in the rough, in my view. :) ) to work with. No shortage of young guns out there; change whatever that needs changing, take the talent and start running with them. Run like hell if you must. But get going and stop whining (or whinging - more British. ;) ). :)
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #55 on: March 19, 2015, 09:25:20 PM »

I suspect you posted this before SL's earth shattering performance against SA while batting first. :D Yes, Sanga scored 4 tons in a row but he had one of the worst freezes of a batsman of his caliber in a knock-out game.

England has great cricket talent. ECB is better off nurturing that talent, grooming them for international level instead of dealing with KP drama. Make them play against the best, let them fight it out. They may lose. Big deal! They will learn and they will grow. If the right talent is not in the international squad, them find it, nurture it, and groom it. Wash, rinse, repeat.

This whole KP situation is a distraction for England cricket and continue to be until ECB shows some spine. If this kind of a situation arose in another setup, cricket fans (anywhere) would deem this situation a distraction too. Also, recurrence of such drama makes England cricket look bad. Yes, yes, I know the retort is "what about the recent results?". Still, move on. There are Taylor, Vince, Ali, Hales, Stokes (diamond in the rough, in my view. :) ) to work with. No shortage of young guns out there; change whatever that needs changing, take the talent and start running with them. Run like hell if you must. But get going and stop whining (or whinging - more British. ;) ). :)

One bad game, hardly proving the point about age because he didn't play his best in one game. Moeen cant' play the short ball, buttler doesn't move his feet so nicks off, same with hales.. not really test players, well not if you assume they will play decent bowling. they'll obviously avg mid 30's at least due to the amount of weak crap around
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #56 on: March 19, 2015, 09:26:12 PM »

Here is one of supposed friends of KP on KP: "A lot of people will be asking whether Kevin Pietersen would have made a difference, including the man himself. He might have been able to provide some of the missing spark. Watching him in the BBL I wasn't sure he's quite the player he once was. The reality is that very few of us are when we get to that stage of our careers - Kumar Sangakkara being the obvious exception! Pietersen might have brought something helpful to the team, but it appears there is too much water under the bridge to go back there again."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/847795.html
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #57 on: March 19, 2015, 09:31:55 PM »

Here is one of supposed friends of KP on KP: "A lot of people will be asking whether Kevin Pietersen would have made a difference, including the man himself. He might have been able to provide some of the missing spark. Watching him in the BBL I wasn't sure he's quite the player he once was. The reality is that very few of us are when we get to that stage of our careers - Kumar Sangakkara being the obvious exception! Pietersen might have brought something helpful to the team, but it appears there is too much water under the bridge to go back there again."

http://www.espncricinfo.com/magazine/content/story/847795.html


I don't think KP will be the force he was. Thing is, we just don't know. IF.. IF he scores well in LVCC then he should be given the chance. England should pick the best xi and he would be in it
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #58 on: March 19, 2015, 09:32:18 PM »

On a side note, I saw the BBL commentary when KP sat next to Ponting. KP didn't want to talk about his book but Ponting kept goading him. It was a very disingenuous thing to do as a "friend". I don't remember Ponting complimenting KP's current form either. It seems like Ponting never misses an opportunity to take a dig at England cricket. KP is a convenient pawn. :D Why facilitate such "friends" with convenient "ammunition" ? Makes no sense to me. KP is bad juju.
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Re: The KP Saga Continues
« Reply #59 on: March 19, 2015, 09:37:59 PM »

I don't think KP will be the force he was. Thing is, we just don't know. IF.. IF he scores well in LVCC then he should be given the chance. England should pick the best xi and he would be in it

England should think long term. Don't go for "instant gratification" ( I am part of that generation too, I won't deny it. :D ).  I listed some guys who I think have tons of potential. I am sure there are more. ECB should work with those who 10-15 years of cricket left in them.

Tendulkar was no way near the finished article when he debuted. Waqar literally gave him a bloody nose in one of the matches but BCCI stuck with him. He did a fine job for his country. India lost a lot in the meantime and won a lot too and their fans are no less opinionated.
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