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[joeljonno]

but the guys in it now arent upto it, cant just leave them to be poor

Are you talking ODI or test cricket here?


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[skip1973]

On a side note, I saw the BBL commentary when KP sat next to Ponting. KP didn't want to talk about his book but Ponting kept goading him. It was a very disingenuous thing to do as a "friend". I don't remember Ponting complimenting KP's current form either. It seems like Ponting never misses an opportunity to take a dig at England cricket. KP is a convenient pawn. Why facilitate such "friends" with convenient "ammunition" ? Makes no sense to me. KP is bad juju.

It was planned and KP new all the questions were coming, there was nothing disingenuous about it.

[InternalTraining]

^ Really? Then why did KP said that I want to move on and not talk about my book? Ponting kept egging him after that comment.

[skip1973]

Theatre.

[InternalTraining]

^ Then KP should try his luck at the Broadway or Westend. Too bad his Graham Norton appearance did not much for his studio cred.

In all seriousness, if that "banter" was pre-meditated, then I question KP's integrity and England are better off without him.

[skip1973]

Correct, he is a massive tool.

[frooper11]

Why should he go away quietly. He is the best player England has had in quite a while. A match winner with X factor

If his heart was 100% in regaining his England place he would have gone straight back to country cricket and scored a ton of runs and made it almost impossible to be ignored. Just feel he's gone about it entirely the wrong way, much like the ECB did in the first place.

[SLC]

He cant be exepcted to have donenthat - they were quite explicit at the tine that it wouldnt matter how many runs he scored.

[ProCricketer1982]

If his heart was 100% in regaining his England place he would have gone straight back to country cricket and scored a ton of runs and made it almost impossible to be ignored. Just feel he's gone about it entirely the wrong way, much like the ECB did in the first place.

and he needed the break for his knee

[ppccopener]

daily telegraph reporting a trace is going to be called with KP and the ECB,with the ECB backing down from this 'never going to be picked,we've moved on' stance.
It may just be a journalist trying to get ahead of the story or may be true.

It doesn't mean he will be selected it means he is no longer 'barred' from being so.

Interesting development, although maybe the forum is fed up of this story.
Personally, there's no doubt the ECB handled it like a bunch of ameteurs, it's almost comical, that doesn't mean I want to see KP back again because I don't.

But it's always very thin ground when the reason given is basically the bloke is a total moron.I'm sure we all know players like that in our clubs, and often with serious talent too.

I think someone up top, new boss perobably, has finally realised the damage being done to our game ha got to stop.

[SLC]

I think a lot of people were quite happy to see KP dropped on merit/fitness. It's just the ECB's idiotic stance that makes me want him back, in order to see some humble pie shared round.

[WalkingWicket37]

I think a lot of people were quite happy to see KP dropped on merit/fitness. It's just the ECB's idiotic stance that makes me want him back, in order to see some humble pie shared round.

Dropped on merit? The bloke was the leading run scorer in last series he played for his country.
As for fitness that's not a reason to permanently drop him. Send him away on a break, miss a series or two while the knee heals and get him back in when fit again if he warrants selection.

I know I've stated he won't play again (the ECB have made as much clear) but I do feel sorry for the bloke. At the end of the day he was treated like (No Swearing Please) by his employer, and had it been a "real world job" he'd probably have a very good case for constructive dismissal.

[SLC]

He still hadn't scored many runs in the last year though has he?

They could've dropped him, and all the other batsmen on merit!

[ProCricketer1982]

I think a lot of people were quite happy to see KP dropped on merit/fitness. It's just the ECB's idiotic stance that makes me want him back, in order to see some humble pie shared round.

remind me who was the top run scorer in the 2013 ashes? remind me who is the highest test match run scorer?

[ProCricketer1982]

and all the other batsmen on merit!

and that's the point. TBH, I couldn't really care less about KP. It's this duel standards thing that is being applied. IF you drop a player on form/merit and he's your best batsmen then the rest must go too!! if they drop the lot then fair enough, otherwise, KP might have scored the most runs since his sacking.. who knows