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ilanz_bess

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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #60 on: November 25, 2014, 06:01:06 PM »

In many ways that's worse than the Broad comment. It invites the reader to say "if he had been wearing a new one it wouldn't have happened" which we can't know.

Exactly what I was thinking. And furthermore the timing of the whole statement is in really poor taste. It seems as though they're trying to distance themselves from the incident. Very inhumane if you ask me.
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #61 on: November 25, 2014, 06:04:36 PM »

Exactly what I was thinking. And furthermore the timing of the whole statement is in really poor taste. It seems as though they're trying to distance themselves from the incident. Very inhumane if you ask me.

It's business.
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #62 on: November 25, 2014, 06:16:04 PM »

Just saw a tweet, which indicated that Masuri released a statement:
Graphic released by manufacturer of the helmet worn by Phil Hughes. The one he wore was the older model. #PhilHughes http://t.co/WIa7pyQGQ0


^^^ in that case they should recall their old defective product [emoji6]


Surely if they are saying the old product is vastly inferior to the new one to the extent it's unsafe they should do a trade in for a new model, free of charge...

If you have a receipt for an old (at the time top of the range) masuri, then get hit wearing an old one, what's to stop you going to masuri, showing them the receipt for their old style helmet and this diagram stating its unsafe, saying "this was top of the range, here's your admission it's unsafe, so you should have done something about it, compensation please...)
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #63 on: November 25, 2014, 06:30:23 PM »

Isn't this the reason why new models of many different products are brought out?  Due to product development, research, advancements in technology etc etc?  You wouldn't expect to be able to swap a car because the new model had new advanced safety features?!

Anyway, I think this is slightly diverting from the original thread.  It should be about wishing Phil Hughes a speedy recovery.
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #64 on: November 25, 2014, 09:49:20 PM »

Yeah.

A bit sickening to see business concerns being discussed while the young mans life remains in the balance.

Fight hard Phil... the whole cricket world is rooting for you.
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #65 on: November 25, 2014, 10:03:00 PM »

a little snippet from masuri's press release, sounds almost like a piece of advertising

From the footage and pictures currently available to Masuri, it appears that Phil Hughes was struck by the ball to the rear of the grille and below the back of the shell, missing his Masuri Original Test model helmet,' the company's statement said.
'This is a vulnerable area of the head and neck that helmets cannot fully protect, while enabling batsmen to have full and proper movement.'
However, Masuri's statement added: 'The newly-developed Masuri Vision Series helmet, which supersedes the 2013 helmet worn by Phil Hughes, does afford batsmen extra protection in this region –- and still allows comfortable movement.'

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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #66 on: November 25, 2014, 10:06:53 PM »

a little snippet from masuri's press release, sounds almost like a piece of advertising

From the footage and pictures currently available to Masuri, it appears that Phil Hughes was struck by the ball to the rear of the grille and below the back of the shell, missing his Masuri Original Test model helmet,' the company's statement said.
'This is a vulnerable area of the head and neck that helmets cannot fully protect, while enabling batsmen to have full and proper movement.'
However, Masuri's statement added: 'The newly-developed Masuri Vision Series helmet, which supersedes the 2013 helmet worn by Phil Hughes, does afford batsmen extra protection in this region –- and still allows comfortable movement.'


i don't care about masuri or any other brand, but this is selective quoting, and not really fair on them. they have clearly stated that they DON'T know whether the newer helmet would have saved him.
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #67 on: November 25, 2014, 10:07:55 PM »

It's always (No Swearing Please) "one-ups-manship" with Masuri.
Just like with Stuart Broad.

Tough times for all players involved
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #68 on: November 25, 2014, 10:09:30 PM »


i don't care about masuri or any other brand, but this is selective quoting, and not really fair on them. they have clearly stated that they DON'T know whether the newer helmet would have saved him.

i did say it was only a snippet. i haven't read the statement this was the quote that was used in the news story i was reading
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #69 on: November 25, 2014, 10:20:28 PM »

Isn't this the reason why new models of many different products are brought out?  Due to product development, research, advancements in technology etc etc?  You wouldn't expect to be able to swap a car because the new model had new advanced safety features?!

True, but most companies don't go on to release a detailed diagram why the old product is unsafe and bordering on dangerous like Masuri seem to have done here.

Using cars as an example - even the safest car in the world isn't fail proof.

With the diagram Masuri have released they're almost saying "it wouldn't have happened if he'd been wearing one of our new helmets" which is awful timing and impossible to claim. No helmet is fool proof, it's just a shame it takes these tragic incidents to open people's eyes to the fact.
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #70 on: November 25, 2014, 10:24:34 PM »

It's business.

Aaah that old chestnut. Seems to take precedence over everything it seems in this world. Shame.
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #71 on: November 26, 2014, 01:50:02 AM »

Nice article about Phil Simmons and his similar injury

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cricket/30198194
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #72 on: November 26, 2014, 01:57:48 AM »

It just seems as though Masuri is trying to absolve  themselves from blame. Which to me is really very dumb, as I don't think anybody would have blamed the helmet manufacturer for an injury under those circumstances
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #73 on: November 26, 2014, 02:19:54 AM »

Could we all for one not talk about helmets. and instead all go too sleep with a little thought for a great cricketer who might be facing the biggest battle. best wishes mate.
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Re: Phil Hughes in critical condition
« Reply #74 on: November 26, 2014, 02:21:45 AM »

Hope he pulls through this. Prayers are with him.
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